Now that I have been selected for IFS and got AIR of 5, I feel that it will be good if I post my interview of IFS as well. It was 26th of March and the forenoon session. I was4th candidate in a group of five. It was my 1st interview at UPSC.When I reached inside Dholpur House and completed all formalities, I was informed that it was Air Marshal(Retd.) Satish Govind Inamdar’s board. I knew that something strange was going to happen to me, for Mr. Inamdar is known to give less marks in Civil Sevices Examination (We didn’t have his records for IFS though). I started looking here and there and enquired the gardener about the kind of flowers which were there( these can be asked in IFS interview, that which flowers did you see while sitting outside). Anyway, the peon, named Kameshwar from Darbhanga, came and told me to wait outside Mr. Inamdar’s room. I sat thereon and talked a bit to Kameshwarji. I asked him whether any lady member was also there. I saw the watch, it was 12:15 and I decided to say ‘Good Afternoon’ in stead of ‘Good Morning’.
Suddenly the bell rang and peon opened the door for me. It was a long way to Chairman’s table. I went with a smiling face and said ‘Good afternoon sirs’. Before I could complete, Mr. Inamdar started tlking in Hindi…good afternoon Sudhanshuji, आइए आइए चाए वाए लिये… हाँ सर ले लिए ….नाश्ता वाश्ता किए …..हाँ सर हो गया …..अच्छा, कहाँ किए…… कैन्टीन मे सर …..क्या मिला वहाँ ……गये थे सर लेकिन कुछ मिला नहीं …..अरे तो कुछ नहीं लिये सुबह से …..नहीं सर, चाय लिये हैं ….अच्छा बैठिये बैठिये कहाँ के रहने वाले हैं आप ……( till now, I have been standing and didn’t sit until he told me to sit, a normal courtsey)..सर बिहार के….
Hereafter, the communication started in English.
CM: Sudhanshu, use the back rest of chair and dont lean forward during interview. Please take water.
S: Sir, I have taken water outside.
CM:Anyway, this water is for you. What is your background.
S: Sir, I am from Purnea in Bihar and have done my 10th from Zila School,Saharsa, Intermediate from B.N.College,Patna and graduation from IIT Kanpur.
CM:You are from IIT, why do you want to come to IFS.
S: Because of the nature of work, sir. It is a very challenging job and huge diversity is there….(interrupts)
CM: What is the challenge.
S:Sir, here I will be both the custodian as well as the manager of forests..wildlife management and solving the challenging problems like environment-development trade-off….(interrupts)
CM: What is this.
S:Sir, as the development process takes place it has its negative effect on environment. As an IFS I will have to solve this problem to ensure development while keeping environment in good health.
CM:When did you decide to come to IFS.
S:In last year of my graduation, sir, when I decided to join govt. service.
CM:Why govt. service.
S: Because I want to contribute directly to the development of my nation.
CM:But in a pvt. service, you can contribute more.
S:Sir, contributing directly is also important.
CM:Yes, but which is more important, contributing more or contributing directly.
S: Sir, both are impt.
CM:Given a choice..
S: Sir, I will go for contributing more.
CM:Then…
S:………
CM:Okay, have a look at the photograph, tell me what is this..(points to a picture of fighter aircraft).
S:Sorry sir, I don’t know.
CM: Make a guess,what is this, a helicopter, space shuttle….what is this.
S:Sir, it seems to be a fighter aircraft.
CM:Yes, a reasonably good guess. It is a fighter aircraft. Now, tell me where is its propeller, or the engineer has forgotten to put it.
S:Sorry sir, I have no idea, where the propeller is.
CM:Make a guess, it is in front of the aircraft or in the back or is there any propeller at all.
S:I think it is at the front or may be at the back.Sorry sir, I am unable to figure out.
CM:Okay, don’t worry.
S:Sir, may I take water.
CM:Yes,yes..this is for you. Whenever you want to take it, feel free to take.
S: Thank you sir.( I take water and during the interview, I take water for six seven times.)
CM:You have worked in Tata Motors.
S:Yes sir.
CM:What was it called earlier.
S:TELCO.Tata Engineering and Locomotive Company, sir.
CM:Why did they change the name.
S: Sir, in international market, one has to be very specific with their core competence. Tata Motors no longer produces Locomotives and hence TELCO name was redundant.
CM: What is a locomotive.
S:Railway engine is known as locomotive,sir.
CM:What is locomotion.
S:Sorry sir, I don’t know.
CM:How does locomotive work.
S:Sir, it uses coal and by that it works.
CM:So, we burn coal and train moves.
S: No sir, coal is burnt and then water is boiled. Vapour produced then runs the piston and thus engine moves forward.
CM:What is it called.
S:….
CM:Coal locomotive or vapour locomotive..what is it called.
S:….sir, we generally know it by the name,locomotive only.
CM:Haven’t you heard of steam locomotive.
S: Yes sir, but it didn’t come at the moment.
CM:you are a Mechanical Engineer, you should know these things.
S: Sir, I accept that I am expected to know these things, yet somehow, I don’t know.These things are not even taught.
CM: So, if something is not taught, you won’t learn that. These are general awareness. Is there any legal ban on knowing this.
S:Yes sir.
CM:Yes??
S:Sir, I mean, there is no ban, and I should know these.
CM: Please continue M1.
M1: Have you heard of JFM.
S:Yes sir, JFM is Joint Forest Management and it is an initiative of govt where govt and local communities jointly manage the forests and the benefits accruing are distributed..( I gave a typical bookish answer which was 100% correct, that I don’t remember now.)
CM:What is Global Warming..forestry..
[To be continued……….]
Sudhanshu Shekhar..... 
So, are you still planning for prelims still ?
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well done sir u handled interview very confidently.
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hi,
u have a great confidence.
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gud one….
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well sir you deserve for the ifs
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HELLO SIR,
UR EXP WAS FANTASTIC A..I CONGRATULATE U… I WANTED FROM U THAT WHERE I COULD GET A GOOD COACHING FOR IFS
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No good coaching is there for IFS as such..However, you may take the guidance of Evolution, Mukherjee Nagar.
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Hello sir i have qualified for ifs exam 2008 interview please give me some tips about interview
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Sir what were your optionals
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Congrats Mukesh..hope you get the service. Ask specific questions..I have written some posts for IFS. You can refer that.
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sir, u did well at interview. i also qualified for the ifos-2008 interview. do they ask lots about current affairs, or more about forest issues and optionals
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They may ask anything on earth. But in my interview, 3 out of 4 members asked specifically on forest issues, one asked on statistics and what chairman asked is written above.
Best of luck for your interview.
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First of all accept my commendation.Sir,i am a botany graduate.I wish to sit for 2009 IFS exam.
Please suggest some good book to refer for both GK and english(Emphasized).Beside,when will govt declare the syllabus and from where could i get that.
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Thanks.
For GS, go through the question papers very meticulously and accordingly read the relevant portions from NCERT books for History, Geography etc. For Science and technology, refer to Spectrum. For current affairs you can rely on any competition magazine, preferably Pratiyogita Darpan.
For English, no material as such is recommended. Concentrate on grammatical aspect of your answers. In that, there should be no errors.
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Sir, through this small reply i am conveying my gratitude.It was realy so kind of you that from such a busy schedule you managed time to assist me further. Sir, can you tell me how to get previous years questions.
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Presently, I am not that busy. But after some time, it will be pretty hard for me to find time to respond to queries.
Previous year questions are freely available as question banks.
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sir,You know that History, Geography, indian polity are like vast oceans.It become hard to me to cover the syllabus within the stipulated time, since i am from science background.Now can you tell me which parts of above mentioned subjects are importent and have greatest chance to be questioned from.I believe you can realise my problem and help me out.
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Sir, i like to add that will i look for NCERT books(History, Geography & indian polity)of 12th standard or graduation? For current affairs is competetion refresher good?
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You go through the question papers. As far as I remember, all these parts have fixed alloted marks. So, all are imporatant. 12th class NCERT is good enough. Try to arrange Vajiram’s class notes. You can rely on them fully .
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Sir,IFS question paper includes History, Geography, indian polity everything.But what i want to know is subject specific importance.For instance, what are the areas or chapters of history,important or must to read for IFS.So through this, not only i will get a overall command,but i can save my time also by avoiding areas not important for IFS.Please help me in this regards.Sir, you can also email me.My email address is surajit.mukherjee86@gmail.com
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sir,
apperared for interview.some problem with certificates,will it affect result.I havnt submitted the required certificate till now.Interview over on 6th march
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Talk to UPSC people. They will guide you better.
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Sir,
it is fruitful participation from your goodselves to cater more ifs family to the aspirants like me.Thanks a lot.
Sir,how many marks have you secured? Please, mention paper-wise.Just to know to invest my efforts strategically in the manner of smart preparation?
your information is highly solicited.
suresh,andhra pradesh
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Maths-245/400 [122&123]
Mech. Engg-207/400 [120/87]
GK-169/300
English-210/300
Interview-141/300
Total-972/1700
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Sir,
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Sir,
Taken to account your marks.Now, I got cofidence on my pace towards the said cherished goal.
I will be in touch with you sir.That can enhance my strategy. Even I post in this manner my self-tested answers for your evaluation and of next suggestions for improvement.I therefore request that I may kinldy be evaluated by your expertise before UPSC evaluate me.I hope I can get your kind permission.
thanking you sir.
yours sincerly,
suresh
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Go ahead.
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It is the question of 2007: “Art.32 is the soul of the Indian Constitution” elucidate?
(150 words)
My Ans: Art.32 in Part-III of the Constitution of India confers the right to remedies for enforcement of the fundamental rights of an aggrieved citizen. The right to get the Fundamental Rights protected is itself a fundamental right.Whenever the infringement of fundamental rights of a citizen occurred due to the action of the State,such aggrieved citizen can move either to the Supreme Court of India under Art.226 or to the High Court under Art.32 to seek issue of writ like habeas corpus/ mandamus/prohibition/certiorari/quo-warranto, as the case may be, for the protection of the fundamental rights and to enforce the said deprived fundamental right.The State should be abided by the respective adjudication.Therefore,Art.32(Right to Constitutional Remedies) makes the fundamental rights real. That is why Dr.B.R.Ambedkar called Art.32 as the most important article of the constitution-” an Article without which this constitution would be a nullity. It is the very soul of the constitution and the very heart of it”.The Supreme Court has also ruled that Art.32 is a basic feature of the Constitution. Hence, it cannot be taken away even by way of an amendent to the constitution.
sir, please award marks,list out defects,and further suggestions.
suresh
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Awarding marks is a little dicey thing.Though in whole, your answer is good but certain defects are there.
1. Non-citizens can also move SC under article 32.
2.Infringements of FR can be by non-state people also. For e.g.Habeas Corpus.
Rest is all right.
Marks 5/10.
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Sir,
I will rectify accordingly.Herein after I will adopt the strategy of comprehensive coverage.
thanking you sir
suresh
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Factual inaccuracy is the worst thing which one can make in general questions.
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Hello sir, i have applied for IFS 2009 exam…can u plz suggest some books for GK n English…i have taken physics n agriculture as optionals…can u plz suggest books for these also..
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No special book for English. Just keep the answers grammatically correct. That’s all.
No idea about the said optionals.
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sir..
i hav appeared for the interview of IFoS 2008 on march 4th 2009…
can u plz fetch me the information ..when are the final results declared?
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No fixed date as such..Generally in the second half of April. Best wishes.
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Dear Sir, I am a mechanical engineer graduated in 2008 and currently working in a highly reputed Pvt. Ltd. Company but my passion still rests in forests & wildlife and I aspire for being an IFS officer. Sir, it’s a bit difficult to leave a decent paying job and prepare full time for UPSC exam kindly give some useful tips so that I can prepare along with fulfilling my duties with the company, also suggest the second optional paper for which I should go alongwith Mechanical Engg. I gave a thought to forestry because the other two possibilities of Mathematics & Statistics require a lot of time for practicing which is not possible for me right now.
As a second choice I can go for any NGO’s working for the cause of wildlife protection ,Kindly guide me through.
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DEAR SIR,
PLEASED TO RECIEVE UR COMMENT…
SIR PLS ADVISE ME WHICH ARE ALL THE BOOKS I NEED TO REFER TO CRACK (G.S) & ENG….SINCE ITS A DESCRIPTIVE TYPE I AM FINDING HARD TO GET ONE….PLS ADVISE
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sir I have done my graduation in zoology and i wanted to ask you the second optional subject , should i go for agriculture or forestry?
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@Salik
though it is advisable that you prepare for IFS with single minded devotion, still you can manage it while doing your job. The best way is to study in the morning. Say from 4 to 9.That is how working people prepare.
Second optional is generally Physics or Maths. I am not sure about Forestry. Go for Physics.
For NGO thing, it is you who have to take a decision.
@ Mohan
Vajiram class notes are the material for GS. Plus any competition magazine like Pratiyogita Darpan. For English, no material is recommended as such. Just keep an eye over your grammar.
@Jiten
No idea friend. You just ask Evolution people.
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sir,my name is T.krishna pradeep(btech ece)working in state bank of india.iam an ifs aspirant.in 2006 i gave one attempt without prep .i got 540 marks in written.my optionals are maths and physics.NOW IAM APPEARING FOR 2010 IFS.I HAVE MATERIAL FOR OPTIONALS.SIR, PLZ SUGGEST SOME PLAN HOW TO PREPARE GS.SIR , HOW MUCH MARKS ONE SHOULD GET TO B SELECTED FOR IFS INTERVIEW
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MY MARKS IN IFS 2006.
PHS -1:30
PHS-2:68
MATHS-1:87
MATHS-2:90
GS:120
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Refer to comment 38 for GS preparation. For marks and all refer to comment 23. If you get around 700 then you generally get a call for interview.
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sir,
Approximately please mention, paper wise ,the marks for which you attempted,as ultimately you got the marks as in item no: 23.
I solicit your answer please.
suresh
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respested sir,
my name is jiten gareri and I am 25 yrs old . I am a graduate in fisheries science and at present I am working in BSNL.sir I wanted to know from you that how to prepare for G.S and from where can I get better study materials for it.and also please tell me how long should a good answer be of 20 marks and 40 marks.
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sir, i have appeared twice in this exam.. ihave got 615/1400[not qualified]in 2007 and 658/1400 in ifos 2008 i want to know marks of any selected candidatein ifos2008 with botany and agriculture..
sir.,,i need your quidance very desperately…
i will be thankful to you if you provide this information
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Mr.Aryansh,
Iam appearing IFoS-2009 with Botany and Zoology as optionals.Please send break up of your marks secured in 2007 and 2008 to the following e-mail.
sureshkumarjalagam@yahoo.co.in
with kind permission of Sudhansu Sir.
suresh
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Sir,
In General Knowledge paper the questions should be covered in 150 words,100 words,about 20 words. Is this direction is must in writing the answers ? What is the permissible extent in case of violation?
In optionals compulsory questions(10 marks) are given the word limit of 150 words per question and there is no specification for essay question( 40 marks ). Can we adopt the word limit as about 600 words (150+150+150+150 for 10+10+10+10 marks pattern ).
Kindly suggest the answering pattern please.
suresh
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Sir,
In General Knowledge paper the questions should be covered in 150 words,100 words,about 20 words. Is this direction is must in writing the answers ? What is the permissible extent in case of violation?
In optionals compulsory questions(10 marks) are given the word limit of 150 words per question and there is no specification for essay question( 40 marks ). Can we adopt the word limit as about 600 words (150+150+150+150 for 10+10+10+10 marks pattern ).
Kindly suggest the answering pattern please.
suresh
A.P.
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sir,
i got 960 out of 1700 in IFS 2008 exam..but i was not recommended,in the final results.
how can i know what was the cut off score of the student/students recommended,so that i can try doing much better for next year IFS exam
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Sorry all. I was not online for quite a few days. I was busy with official works.
@ Garima
you don’t bother about cut-offs. Prepare for full marks. Deciding cut-offs is not in your hands so even though you know, you can’t do anything. In my year, cut-off was around 930. You see, at 972 I got 5th rank. So, don’t worry. You have got huge promise. You will get through IFS. Also try for Civil Services.
@ Suresh
It is strongly advisable to stick to word limits. But then you must have the ability to express yourself completely in that limit. So, make use of every word. Put all the info in that limit.
For essay there is really no limit. Don’t put calculated numbers of word limit. Just be relevant and rational in essay. Anything near 1000 words is enough even in Civil Services. So, it will suffice here also.
@ Aryansh
I don’t have the marks of qualified candidates with me except myself. But if you get 730 or so, you can get a call. But your idea should be to get over 800 in written so that you can get selected finally. Best wishes.
@ Suresh
You are pleasantly permitted to make use of this blog in whichever manner it helps you.
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respested sir,
my name is jiten gareri and I am 25 yrs old . I am a graduate in fisheries science and at present I am working in BSNL.sir I wanted to know from you that how to prepare for G.S and from where can I get better study materials for it.and also please tell me how long should a good answer be of 20 marks and 40 marks.
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sir,
I want the study materials for Geology and Forestry. Which are the books do I have to refer?
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Respected Sir,
It is with immense respect that I write to you. I am an aspirant just like others here, but I do not have clue about where or how to start.
GK and English are not a problem, But I am an Engineer in computer science, so i do not have any idea about optionals etc.
My humble request is a personal audience with you, either in meeting, or over the phone or through mail.
Please provide for your contact or mail me.
My mail id is anup.bp@gmail.com and I am from Bangalore.
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@Ramnath
No idea about these optionals.Contact Evolution in Delhi.
@Jiten
You see the comments. You will get the answer.
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Sir,
Could u pls suggest some books for general knowledge?
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Refer to comments.
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hi sir,
after my long search, i found this link.
could you please tell me, where can i get IFS previous years Question papers??
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hello sir:
congrtz for the success.
I did mechanical engg in 2007 and at present I am working as aJr. Design engg in a reputed mnc, but since very long time I had an ambition to do Indian forest service. Now I am at an age of 23 my plan is to quit the job and get in to a dedicated preperation, and I’ve planned to take Mech engg and Aggriculture engg but I don’t know from where to start please help me and also mention the books or materials I need to follow.
I feel I am lucky to get an advice from a person like you and I’ll be in contact with you please guide me sir.
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hello sir,
could you please tell me where can I get previous year question papers book for mechanical engg and aggriculture enng.
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2 Mahesh
Talk to evolution in Delhi.
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Dear sir,
It was really so kind of you that from such a busy schedule you managed time to assist me, I really thank you very much.
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hello sir,
i am very thankful to you for your precious information about indian forest services I am a mechanical engineering student and now in 4rth year and I have started preparing for ifs exam but I just want to know which subject should i choose for optional physics or forestry please suggest me some website which can guide me.
thank you
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hello sir,
Is the GS of IFS examination same at the level of civil service exam or little lower than that???
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Hello sir,
As I enquired with evolution people they will teach only agriculture, Mathematics, Botany, Zoology but I’m opting for mechanical engg and agriculture engg so what to do please suggest me and also for mechanical engg may I know how did u study, had you gone to any reputed coaching center or made preparation your own please guide me sir.
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Dear Mr.Sekar,
This is the only place in www having most information about IFoS (I mean the information that really matters). I wish you keep answering to the various questions of relevance.
Thank you.
(An aspirant)
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Sir,
I have done Engineering in Electronics.but im more interested in Forest services.but not sure that an Electronics engineer is eligible for forest exams.
I have searched a lot but found confusing answers.
your help will be appreciated.
Thanks
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Why don’t you see the syllabus first Sushant. You are eligible but only thing is that probably Electronics is not a subject. You can write the exam by taking other subjects.
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dear sir,Thanks for your prompt reply !!
I have seen the syllabus & electronics is not a subject.
The only thing I wanted to know that an Electronics engineer who don’t have Biology & other subject in curriculum (Even in 12th also) is eligible for this exam or not.As it is not clearly mentioned on UPSC website also & I came to know that only Chem,Mech & Civil Engineers are eligible for IFS & I want to get it confirmed from official source. so could you please confirmed it once again for me?
Thanks for your help !
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sir,
i want to know that exam takes place in july so can i start my preparation for general studies from january .can i rely totaly on general studies class notes provided by ajiram and ravi or of chanakya
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Respected Sir
Please suggest me strategy for Maths.
Is there any separate cut off in each paper
Waiting for your reply
Thanks and regards
Sudhanshu
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Respected Sir
I am interested in forest service because i have general perception for this service that it is related to forest, environment, wild life etc. But i want to know what are the exact responsibilities of these officer, where they get placed. I want to know these thing in general and it will also help in our preparation as we will get more clear that we are preparing about what.
It will be very beneficial if you write post regarding this or give any link on which we get all this information. But it will be always better to hear about you as it is experience of a working officer.
Thanks and regards
Sudhanshu
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sir for preparation of g.s. & forestry what is your recommendation for study material for ifs
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sir,
it is good to knw tht some one is there who help the aspirant for civil services
i want to know one thing………..
i m student if nit rourkela and interested in civil service
but i m fully confused abt tht
1st i would do the job or continue my preperation………….
sir one thing more i need some tricks how to prepare for math as i want to opt math for pre
and math + electrical engineering for mains
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hey congrats sir….
well sir mah name is aparna n m also going for ifs…i just wanna know about d buks u prefered for d G.K. …n if u r going to suggest me ncert buks den sir g latest edition of ncert buks are quite easy nd has less matter den in dis case wht shud i do…n one more thing dere r sum units in science buks which r never asked inG.S. so shud i go for it …or not…plz help
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hi aparna u can rely totally on correspondence provided by career plus institute specially for ifs for ur gk
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Friends,
I just finished my BCA degree. And
I am thinking 2 take FORESTRY and AGRICULTURE as optional sub for IFoS 2010.
Plz any1 tel me is dis sub’s can b readable? Bcz I did’t no anything about da sub’s..
Which optional subject’s r better among all?
kkrishnakaranth@gmail.com
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i have appeared for IFoS-2009.but general study was extremely bad.
this year i m referring following materials.can u suggest some more or any change
1.history-pratiyogita darpan
2.geography-savinder singh
3.polity-spectrum and ncert book
4.current affairs-civil service chronicle
5.news paper-the hindu
is there any advantages of choosing pratiyogita darpan over civil service chronicle.
please reply.i need your help
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sir ,plz tell me about best coaching institute in delhi.
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Hello Ajith,
My name is mahesh, from Bangalore, I want to know that geography is allowed for IFos, which is the official sight to check informations regarding Indian forest service exam plz let me know.
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Sir,
Plz tell me the best books of botany and Zoology as well as the the guidence centre for IFS.
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sir wht will b the cut off for scheduled tribe students in Ifs
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please convey me this information.hw many marks one st stdent require to qualify for interview
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i am waitin thanx sir
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@ Rashmi
Pata nahi mujhe..but why are you worried for cut-offs..are you going to stop writing the answers once you think you have crossed cut-off..or you will start enjoying after writing the exam without even the result..
Just don’t worry about cut-off..aim at the highest and keep on working hard.
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Dear Shekhar, Well what pleased me most to read your blog is the spirit with which u r taking the task of extending the guidance to all those who are desperately seeking for someone who can give them the right direction.I wish online discussion forums could get incorporated better in our youth. I am pleased that u can spare time out of busy schedule to reply. You may be liking doing it but it should not be forgotten that its also effort taking. Just keep the spirit going!!!!
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@ Yasmeen
Thanks.. 🙂
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I have got so motivated by the blog that i feel i will write for IFS 2011. I am Aug 1982 so think can write for 2012 also. M i right?
I am a pursuing my PhD from University of Delhi and am working on the biological response of climate change on Endemic species of Eastern Himalaya. I m extensive field ecologist and love working in fields. I have worked on the remotest tropical and alpine systems of Arunachal and Sikkim.I am writing 2 scientific paper for international journals which i hope to be published soon.
I am a UGC- JRF
I am thinking of picking up Botany and Agriculture and start reading from today itself. As suggested for GK i have bought NCERT books and reading the Hindu. Am I moving in right direction. What should be my strategy of preparation.What would u like to suggest me regarding anything and everything.
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@Yasmeen
Start preparing. See Vajiram’s notes for GS too..
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dear sir…as i know u r so busy person…but plz can u confirm my eligibility for ifs exam,,,as i am B.pharma graduate…….plzz sir!!!!
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Where can i access Vajiram’s notes from?
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Is the combination of agriculture and botany allowed as the optional subjects in the IFS.
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hello sir,
Its really so happy to found this link. Its really helping me. I am vardhini,M.sc biochemistry. Till now internet is only my guidance to get the old questions papers, information abt ifs, and study material. People around me didnt know about the exam also. Till now i m preparing basing on the information from net only. I surfed all the sites and gathered information abt the optionals and exams. I applied for ifs2010. Is this way of preparation is correct? and also my family don’t let me to go or cannot afford to take coaching in delhi. In Andhra pradesh, there is no coaching for ifs. But at any cost i have to be an ifs officer.But i get worrying about the exam and my preparation without any teacher, guidence. Right from my graduation i am working on this. I am preparing according to the old question papers and syllabus. My optionals are botany and zoology and for gk i am not knowing wat to do because i dont know my preparation is in which level? Can you help? i didnt receive my hall ticket and the exam is on july 10,2010. My id vardhinikasi@gmail.com. Please mail me or respond to my query.expecting ur reply.
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sir belated wishes to you..am presently working in central pollution control board..am a aspirant of indian forest service…so to start with had appeared for this exam and hadnt prepared a word and jus attended and got a marks of 300 odd…but now i need strategic planning…as how to prepare..what to do…how to work and how to study..what plans to clear…waiting for u..
regards
sharath
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hello sir,,, i am biotech engg,i did my b-tech from NIT RAIPUR, i found this link today.. i read all coments and your reply.. i hav lots of doubts before read al this,i am very happy as i found this link.i m prepeng for IFS but i hav no guidnce and techers,, sir i want to know abt the books for agriculture ..plz help me..
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@Sharath
concentrate on old question papers..see all the comments. I have written elaborately on the preparation.
@ Manish
Talk to Evolution at Delhi.
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hey manish you can get book lists from examrace.com as well as u can also download last 10 year paper for ur ifs subject from this site and you can purchase these boks from ber sarai delhi.i hope u will get out of ur trouble
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Hi Sudhansu,
I have done my Btech in IT.I was always passionate and enthusiast abt nature and wild life.I wanted to sit for IFS.But dont get time except weekends as I am working in a software MNC in gurgaon.Also there are no computer related subject in IFS.Chemistry used to be my favourite subject.There is a huge dillema abt the selection of 2nd subject.
Could you suggest 2nd optional for me which i can prepare in little possible time.
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sir, please tell me how should i prepare for IFoS, books for IFS , ncert aand non-ncert…..plz reply i m waiting for your reply
9808805938
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Dear Sudhanshu sir
I am an undergraduate at IIT Delhi, and I feel very motivated to join IFS. But I lack sufficient information about the service, which after a lot of searching on the web, I haven’t been able to retrieve.
Can you suggest me some resources which can give me a comprehensive info relating this service??
Sincere regards
Abhishek
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@Abhishekgold
there are two very good websites:-
http://www.envfor.nic.in
http://www.ifs.nic.in
Go through them, you will get a lot of information.
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Dear Sir,
First of all thanks to you for taking such an initiative for the aspirants of IFos. I am also appearing fro this exam in this year . I just wanted to know as very short duration is left , how much time should one give to prepare on all the subjects. my optionals are physics & chemistry. Please guide me as to which are the major imp. topics for physics n chem both.
Even if i look at the previous question papers every yr the pattern is different. so how to prepare.
Please guide me on the above
Thanks
Regards
Richa
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Last years’ questions papers are the best guide. You can figure out pattern. Moreover, they are from the standard books. So, it’s not difficult.
Ideally, you should devote equal time for all the three subjects. But, depending on your knowledge or the lack of it, you can adjust that.
Do only one thing, study. And you will get through!!!
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hello sir,
this is Amoga laxmi, am done with my Bsc and i want to prepare IFS can u please guide me.
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Hi Sudhansu,
I have done my Btech in IT.am I eligible for IFS????
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Dear Sir,
I have done B.Tech in Electrical in 2008 & currently working in a Wind Power Company. Forests, Wild Life,Ecology,Environment,Man-animal conflict etc have always attracted my conscience. More than this I want to live and serve close to the nature & thats why I have written this mail to you. I have 3 Questions for you if you dont mind:
1) Is the Reason mentioned above is justified enough to prepare for IFS?
2) Can Electrical Engineers write IFS?
3) Are their other platforms to Serve and manage our natural resources?
Your response will help me a lot!
Ashish Ranjan
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@Ashish
Here are the answers to your questions:-
1. Yes, the reason is justified. We should have job satisfaction. There is no point in doing engineering, if you are attracted to nature. As in my case, I was attracted to civil services and not with engg. So, I decided to leave the job and star preparing.
2.Yes, Elec. Engg. write IFS. For details, log on to upsc.gov.in.
3.There are other platforms too, like NGOs etc. But, the authority you exercise in IFS is simply awesome. Go for it, Best wishes.
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sir,
I am a veterinary graduate from meghalaya ,sir i want to sit for IFS exam but i have no idea how to start,please give me information about the study package both for optional and gs and how to gain acess to that.Thank you
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Sir,
I will take Veterinary and zoology as optional.
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sorry…but mujhe lagta hai ye sab banavti hai…aap se aur khuch pucha hoga….andupal me aap nikal gay…..i am right sir,,,,,
i am mechanical engineering student….and i want to face upsc exam…(IFS)
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hello sir,
I am very much interested in IFS.But i am doing a job to support my family.I cant leave my job.I have Done my Btech in Computer science.
1.Am I eligible for IFS???
2.How many seats are generally there for 3.IFS???
4.Do I have to take botany or Zoology as one of my subject???
5.Is GS of IAS and GK of IFS same????
Please guide sir…
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sir,i m pursuing b.tech from computer science and engineering.am i eligible for ifs.
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@Himanshu
Yes, you are eligible but you will have to choose science optionals.
@Deepak
1. Yes, you are eligible.
2. Generally in the range of 50-60. In my time, it was 35.
3. No, you can take any of the science optionals.
4.No, the GK of IFS is much simpler.
@Mahendra
You are free to believe whatever you wish to!
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@Damut
Please log on to http://www.upsc.gov.in. You will get the subjects and syllabi therefrom. I have given elaborate replies as to how to prepare for the exam. Please go through them. You can ask specific questions!
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Dear Sir
I am an IIT Delhi graduate and an IAS aspirant, but I find IFoS equally attractive as a career. The problem is that my IAS optionals are Physics and Geography, the latter not being an IFoS subject. If I consider devoting time for IFoS as well, I’ll have to choose Mathematics additionally.
How much extra efforts are needed according to you? If I somehow manage to finish the Mathematics syllabus, do you think rest of the IFoS papers won’t need any extra preparation (considering that they have already been covered in the IAS preparation)?
Sincere regards and thanks!
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sir, i am in 2nd year b.tech in bhopal.In bhopal there are no such good coachings that will provide proper guidance.so i am preparing on my own.i am preparing gs and chemistry from last four months but nobody is with me to say that,the answer you have written is right or what it is lacking.so i want to have general view of yours.I am writing a question and it’s answer.plz give remarks on it so that i can make my mistakes correct.
Q what is relative humidity?(100 words)
ans Relative humidity is the amount of water vapour present in the mixture of air and water vapour.It is a general notion to describe humidity in terms of water vapour holding capacity of air,but air actually transport not holds the water vapour and it can be present in an airless volume also.Relative humidity is measured by using psychometers.It is strongly associated with day to day life.we feel warmer when relative humidity is high because the rate at which perspiration evaporates becomes low.It also leads to misting of windshields,drying of clothes and shortening of electric components.
plz rply soon.
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@Abhishek
IAS requires single minded devotion. Taking an extra optional as Maths only for IFS may not be too desirable. As I understand, Maths in no more an attractive optional for IAS. Well, you are asking a difficult question. You analyze for yourself, whether it will be possible for you to prepare an extra optional. It all depends on your calibre and strength!! As for other subjects of IFS, they are too simple as compared to IAS.
@Himanshu
Your answer seems to be okay. What is lacking is the mathematical formulation of relative humidity and explanation thereof. You can refer the book on thermodynamics by YVC Rao of IIT Kanpur.
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Dear Sir,
Thanks for the response, I got your point and I really appreciate that you are responding to people like us in-spite of your professional commitments.
I just realized that you have also cleared the Civil Services exam. My first optional is Geography. I am confused between Physics, History and Anthropology for the second optional. I am much more familiar with Physics due to my Engg background. Still I think I can study the other two because of my general interest (in both) and good previous knowledge (in History).
What should be my criteria for choosing one of them. Should I consider the ‘popularity’ of the subject as well?? I’ll be giving the exam in 2012.
Thanks and regards
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@Abhishek
Two criteria are there for choosing an optional. One, your general interest and other how the marks are being awarded in that subject presently. While the former is of utmost importance, the latter may vary from year to year. Take subjects with smaller syllabi as these days, entire syllabi is covered in the exams. So, check on these grounds!! Best wishes.
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Sir,
I appeared in this year’s Indian Forest services examination with the optionals statistics and geology and am expecting a total of something between 740 to 760.Can I expect a call for the interview?Generally,what is the cut-off marks for a general candidate?total seats to be filled is aproximately 84.Please reply,Sir.Will wait for your reply.
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@Alpesh
Yeah. You will get a call.
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Thank you very much,Sir.I have been following your blog for quite some time now.Whatever books you recommended for G.S.,I prepared accordingly.In statistics-1,I am expecting 110-115 while in statistics-2 I am expecting 100-110.
In geology-1,I am expecting 115-120,while the second paper didn’t go as desired.I will get a maximum of 50-60.
Your blog has been of exceptional help to me.I have just given my masters exams in statistics from Delhi University.And this was my first attempt at I.Fo.S.without any coaching.Thank you again,Sir.
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@Alpesh
Wish you all the best.
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sir,thankyou for giving remarks on relative humidity.but sometimes i get confused how to write because there are variety of questions that can be asked in gk.for example if i have to write a comment on some act then what should be included so that my answer looks effective.secondly,i dont know whether a diagram can be drawn or not when it is not asked but required in the answer.also,i want to know that when i am writing a mathematical expression like in relative humidity then whether i m permitted to write it in next line or i have to mention it in continuation with answer.sir plz help me.
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@Himanshu
Mention all the relevant points in the answer in a brief fashion. Idea is to tell the examiner that you know all the points. Don’t harp on specific points. Mention all points briefly and you will get full marks.
Diagrams are recommended whenever possible.
You can write mathematical formulation in next line.
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Good afternoon,Sir!
Apart from K.P.Sagreiya’s forests and forestry,what else should I refer additionally?I am a post-graduate in Statistics,So while testing me,what else can I be asked?Can I be asked how to correlate what all I have learnt in my subject-Statistics with forest.Please Sir,your advice/suggestion is highly welcome and solicited.
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sir, for a question like methods of soil conservation.there are many points that can be described in it like mulching,intercropping,rock dam,shelter belts,terrace farming,contour ploughing etc.so which type of representation would be better for it,in paragraph or in points.if i m writing in points it may take more than one page to complete whereas in paragraph it may take nearabout one page.i know i am asking a silly question but sometimes i know the matter but get confused how to represent it to the examiner.can any answer be written in points??plz help.
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Write in points. That is always advisable as you communicate better in that case. Don’t elaborate much. Emphasis is on telling the examiner that you know this.
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sir,i want to sit for both ias and ifs.my first optional is chemistry.as there are only science subjects in the list of ifs so i have no option other than to take agriculture as my second optional.i can take mathematics also,but it will be dificult in case of ias.agriculture is looking intersting and the previous year papers appears to be simple.but it has some biological part also which is totally new for me.but since i have got 2 years for preparation so i think i can do it.is i m going in right direction??plz help..
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Good afternoon,Sir!
Apart from K.P.Sagreiya’s forests and forestry,what else should I refer additionally?I am a post-graduate in Statistics,So while testing me,what else can I be asked?Can I be asked how to correlate what all I have learnt in my subject-Statistics with forest.Please Sir,your advice/suggestion is highly welcome and solicited.
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Dear Sudhanshu Sir
I am very keen on opting for Anthropology as an optional for IAS exam, but I haven’t been able to find a reliable source of guidance for the same. Also, there do not seem to be any good coaching centers in Delhi for the subject.
Could you direct me to some person who can guide me in this subject? I am sure some of your batch-mates must have had taken this as an optional.
Thanks for your help!
Sincere regards
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sir,
This is pintu,from supaul in bihar,did B.sc in hotel mgmt. in 2009 and nw i m working in dubai as a chef.i want to prepare for upsc exams bt i m nt able to figure out the optional subjet bca during my graduation all the core subject was different so please help me and give me some suggestion.nw i m 24 years old.
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Hello sir,
I have taken physics and chemistry as my optional.Is it enough to study IIT JEE level physics chemistry for IFS???
Please guide sir.
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Hi Sudhanshu,
It is a pleasure to read your blog. The manner in which you involve Bhagwan with a Tax-man’s duties is quite cool – not in the sense teenagers use the term but rather like “thandak” to the heart and mind. However the thought that being an engineer albeit of any branch, you were not able to handle the “propeller” question in your interview rankles me. Could you explain? I wont mind if you choose to ignore this issue. All the best to you in your career and i sincerely hope we never come across each other officially. After all no one likes a call from a Tax officer!!
Best regards
Hemant
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Hi Hemant,
thanks for your nice words. Bhagwan is everywhere. I try to involve Bhagvan in not only my duties as tax officer, but in all of my duties. You see, the performance of our duties with detached mindset is the tool for upliftment.The same becomes quite easy if you involve Bhagvan in the performance of your duties.That’s why this approach.
Well, my inability to handle the ‘propellor’ question must have rankled the interviewers too. But well, it’s a fact that i didn’tknow that jet aircrafts don’t have propellers.
Well, you may become happy if you get a call from tax officer regarding the issuance of your pending refund. Or if you have been getting grounded in income-tax proceedings, and come across an officer who is pleasant, polite, helping and fast. I sincerely believe,that you will feel happy while getting a call from ‘such’ tax officer.
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sir i als0 want 2 bcome an DFO i am 14 yrs old boy.Can u give me some advise.
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Dear King Alijah,
Sorry for late reply. My advice to you is to concentrate on all subjects equally. Give a little extra effort for understanding the science subjects. Don’t think too much about your career now. God bless you.
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Hai sir,
I had a query for you. Can you tell me how to make synoptic notes for quick revesion with example.
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thanx sir,
for such a guidance.
sir,i am a p.g in genetics with botany and zoology in my graduation..
i want to appear for the exam…with botany and zoologu as my subjects as i command them…would it be aright choice for me..if not can u suggest sum of them..
thanx in advance!
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I am engineering student in third year and I am surely going to give ifs. i will become eligible for first attempt in 2013. my college will over in may 2012. what kind of preparation should i do along with college study.
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sir, i am doing MBBS in andhra pradesh… i am interested in IFS… its very awesome.. i am attracted to science, nature wildlife since my childhood and these all stands to be my interests… ami eligible for ifs
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hello sir
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hello sir,i am a science grad and want to write ifos 2011 with physics and chemistry,could jst give some valuable suggestions regarding these optionals.As gs is not a big issue for me as i have studied @vajiram.But as i am nt writing my ias next year ,in d meanwhile i want to prepare for ifs.Thanks
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Sorry folks,
I am extremely busy these days in my time-barring assessments. I will reply to all the queries whenever I get time.
@ Bunty, please ask specific question. How can I answer general questions.
@ Santosh, you are eligible. Only if you choose Science optional.
@Rushi, cover ur optionals first. After graduation, go for GS.
@Arpita, that’s afair choice, provided u r having competence in them.
@ Surender, there is no special method. It varies from person to person. You device ur own method. Nothing particular about it.
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thanks for reply sir.
i’m in computer engineering. should i take placement for some job experience or there is no need of job if IFS is the only goal. I asked because job will not allow good(single minded) preparation.
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Well Rushi, this has to be answered by you only. After graduating, I joined Tata Motors as engineer and worked there for three months: only to resign thereafter. Civil services and IFS demand single minded devotion plus luck. So, decide on ur own. Best wishes.
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hi, Sir,
thanks for providing all those informations to many needy ifs aspirants like me.
with regards
utpal..
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hi sir,
this is about walking test (25km in 4 hr)in IFS.
Is we have to actually walk 25km or they judge on some parameter?
or they have some way out for the test?
thanks..
regards..
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Sir,
I have qualified the IFS 2010 wriiten exam.
Please do tell me about the walking test i have asked. Also you suggest any coaching for the interview?
regards,
anubhuti
anubhuti2481@rediffmail.com
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sir,
what is the probation period before posting in a district? is there cadre allottment?
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hi sir , first of all congratulation .. sir actually i am also preparing for ifs with optional subjects botany and zoolgoy , kindly help me , because i already gone through lots of ups and downs in my life in terms of career , now i need to crack forest service exam ( state forest service or ifs) at any cost, but plz help me by telling me how much hours study it needs .
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Thankyou sir for providing such a useful forum to IFoS aspirants.
hello friends,
Is there any person who is going to face intrvw this year from allahabad or lucknow centre?
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@ Adarsh..
hi,
ya i m going to face the interview of ifs .. m frm lucknow.. where r u frm?
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i m frm allahabad with botany and zoology optionals.
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Dear Sir,
First of all many congratulations being such a good officer, even after selection. India, Indeed need more officers like you. I am a research scholar, pursuing my PhD at a research center. But i am working force-fully over here, in this PAPER-PUBLISHING so called scientific work. I am least interested in working for paper publishing , m thinking of quitting this research field for many months but many things deters me from that. I like nature very much and i want to IFoS. I am good in zoology with confidence in GK as well as in English too. plz guide me what should i do,i am finishing 3rd year of my research. I am sure i’l not go for research even if i have PhD, i have only one fear whether this kind of discontinuity will affect one’s image in Interview session, like in IFoS interview ??? Please guide me Sir, Thank you.
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hello sir iam preparing for ifs with optionals zoology and forestry.please tel me reference or material for forestry.i lose 2 attempts .present i have only 2.my mail pavansri_c@yahoo.com
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hello sir iam preparing for ifs with optionals zoology and forestry.please tel me reference or material for forestry.i lose 2 attempts .present i have only 2.
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@anubhuti
its 14km for women in walking test and 25 km for men.we actually have to walk 4 the distance in delhi zoo. u can take interview guidance from evolution, delhi.
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walking test of 25kms in 4 hrs…will be tough i guess…as there is a time limit of 4hrs..u need to be at around 6.3km/hr…you need to walk briskly to complete….
brisk walking continuously for 4hrs is tough i feel,requires stamina..
and there will be a elaborate medical test(height,weight,chest,eye,bp,xray,etc…)with min standards…
for complete details refer appendix 3 @ http://envfor.nic.in/legis/ifs/exam.html
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@anubhuti
As far as my knowledge… The Physical fitness is very important in IFS. Most of the students get eliminated during this stage..
check appendix 3 of indian gazette @ http://envfor.nic.in/legis/ifs/exam.html
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this time intrvw very early. from 31st jan to 4 feb.
adarshbotany@gmail.com
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Hello Sir
My name is Niharika. I have 2 queries.
1 I have written IFS exam in 2009 but dint check the results. Is it possible to get it now.
2 Where and when can me and other aspirants like me get the rest of your interview.
My apologies if asked for too much.
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when will be the walking and medical test? generally its next day of interview. But no information is there from Moef.
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yes, there is still no information about the walking and medical test. it does not necessarily fall on the next day of interview. when is ur interview anubhuti n adarsh?
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my interview is on 4th feb.
for details of marks obtained by 2009 successful candidates visit ifs.nic.in and click IFS EXAMINATION and then MERIT LIST 2009.
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thank u for the information 🙂
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sir…i am applying for ifs 2011 with mechanical engg and geology as optionals….please guide me on which topics i have to keep stress more………….c
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@Adarsh Kumar:
You are Amit from Allahabad.Am I right?You had appeared last time in 2007 and you got a total of 795 in written and 135 in interview.Why are you using a fake name?I know you very well.What’s the reason to hide?Congratulations for this time too.You are currently in HCS.
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@priya
you are absolutely wrong. i think u r confused. i m adarsh not amit.
adarshbotany@gmail.com
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medical and walking test schedule now available on MoEF website.
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so friends how was the interview?
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hi sir
plz inform me the books related to GS in ifs
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it was fine; in p k mishra board.
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@ adarsh u qualified IFS isnt it? congratulations!
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yes, thanks…
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check out for the community for IFS aspirants in facebook. share your concerns and questions http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/IFoS-Aspirants-The-Environment-Conservators/184373944938157
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Sir I am applying for ifs 2011.I have a query ,since I am a science graduate,is it mandatory for me to take only those optional subjects for ifos exam with which i did my graduation or i can take any??
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Sir
I want to know about- When & How the cadre is assigned among successful candidates.
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hello sir,
i am preparing for ifs-2010 (mech and math) On which area i should concentrate in mech.engg section.and how i prepare for essay ?
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Hello Sir,
I am a software engineer (BE, NIT Bhopal) working with TCS. I have filled the form of CSAT and IFS, however I am going to leave CSAT because of lack of preparation. I will appear in the IFS. My optionals are Geology and Forestry. Be going through some of your comments above, I am perplexed whether my optionals are allowed with my graduation which is engineering.
Kindly spare a little bit of your precious time to ease me.
Thanks and Regards
Gautam
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yaa u can choose any optional from the list…. Nd yaa geology nd forestry are allowed..
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sir tell me about walking test
awaiting for ur reply
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sir,i am amesh chaudhary from ara,bihar.i am now pursuing b.sc
(ag) from b.h.u.please suggest me subject combination alongwith agriculture which is easy and yields maximum result in ifos.opting botany is more fruitful or forestry?in our university foresty is not taught as a subject then whqt to do in this condition. please guide me.
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it is good and easy to get about IFoS
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Sir …..I am a IIT R graduate preparing for IFS ..my subjects r physics and chemistry … plz let me know about any good coaching institute for these subjects….also sir are vaji ram notes enough for gs preparation?. thanks
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Hello Sir..
IFS is my dream job…but the problem is, currently I am working as Pharma Consultant…
I have made my mind to quit my present Job….so 6-8 months will be left for preparation…so will this time be sufficient sir???
Tell me is there any preference for Forestry and Agriculture candidates???
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hello sir , i had a question. how much beneficial will be the jan lockpal bill to stop massive corruption of forest department and will it affect current tiger situation. need your view as you are forest officer and i’m IFS aspirant.
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I am expecting 725+ marks in 2011. Whether it is sufficient?
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HEY every one it is to inform that one of your optional should be the one which u haver studied in ur graduation u must be a graduate in any one of the optionals
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hi , shashank
i am computer engineer . am i eligible for ifs?
what does science optional mean?
are they physics,chemisty and maths?
is Maths and forestry valid optionals for me?
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hello sudhanshu sir , its really nice to read ur interview , m also applying for IFS 2012 , just want to ask whether there r any good coaching classes for that and which study material i should refer ? plz guid thank you
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sir firstly, thanks a toon for helping students to find their goals and solve their problems… I am also one of them I want to ask you sir I am MSC microbiology.
1 SO during writing the Ans in IFS botany zoology,,how much depth we touched the topics in our ans??????in how much of detailed
2. I am not a guy of good weight and height,,so It will effect on the final selection ???
3. there is any type of SC, ST reservation in IFS if yes then how many seats approx comes under general quota???
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Sir,
What is the minimum height required for girls to qualify in medical test.
My height is 151 cm. Am I eligible?
Please reply
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Guys, you must go through the UPSC website for answers of your technical queries. Applies for rushi and sandeep..
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Hello sir, I m a graduate with environmental sciences and desperately preparing for IFS. I would be appearing for 2012 examinations. I have choosen chemistry and forestry as my subjects.Are their some specific tips for answering in examinations, if so plz let me know.I shall be highly obliged.
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hello sir ,
i m student of MSc botany. Can i rely on UNIQUE guide for g.s.? what was your strategy and preparation plan ? kindly tell about your schedule during preparation
and more thing …..blogs of some other qualified candidates who had taken BOTANY and ZOOLOGY as optional.
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Well friends, I am sorry that I am unable to rply to your queries in a prompt fashion. I have a twitter id sudhanshush. You contact me there. I promise that the replies will be promptest as twitter is there on my mobile. I am planning to write another article in interview category. So, keep visiting the blog.
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Yes fayza, you can rely on unique. But the point is that unique is too Bulky and elaborate for IFS. Take out relevant portion after going through past years question papers.
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hello sir
i have done m.pharma and highly interested to prepare for IFS i have one and half year left for this sir plz tell me is this much time is enough for preparing IFS
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Hi Sudhanshu,
Can you tell me what exactly are the roles and responsibilities of an IFS officer? how much travelling is required? and does Evolution provide correspondence course? do you happen to have any contact number of Evolution?
Best Regards,
Anjali
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Sir ! I am an IFS aspirant.I am a bit overweight.Will that be a deterrent for IFS?Will I be rejectd in medicl?Kindly reply.Will be very obliged.Thank you.
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Respected Sudhanshu Sir
i have completed my graduation from hbti kanpur in biochemical engineering(chemical technology) 2011.sir am i eligible for ifs?sir can you tell me the names of coaching institutions for ifs in u.p?and plz give me some tips and books for preparation of ifs.
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Respected Sudhanshu Sir
i have completed my graduation from hbti kanpur in biochemical engineering(chemical technology) 2011.sir am i eligible for ifs?sir can you tell me the names of coaching institutions for ifs in u.p?and plz give me some tips and books for preparation of ifs?
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amazing post and i must admit it has been such nice to hear from you all and especially Sudeshnu sir. Sir i was looking for good quality book(study materials) in forestry and chemistry. Actually while preparing for gate i did studied chemistry but still here the pattern is bit different. waiting for your reply sir.this blog has been a real help thank you all.
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Ya sir i also wanted to know about the nature of your job. Do you work directly with the projects of Moef or you have to get regulated by the SPCBs. hows the training period. If we want to take independent decision can we take or their is pressure from upper level?? looking forward to your comment sir
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SIR ,
I WRITTEN IFS 2010 ,I GOT 410 TOTAL MARKS ,
NOT QULIFIED . WHAT WAS CUTT OFF .
IN THE SECOND TIMES I APPEARED ,2011, I EXPECT AROUND
580-600 MARKS CAN I EXPECT A CALL FOR PERSONALITY TEST ,AS
SC CADIDATES ,
PLEASE GIVE ME PROPER DIRECTION.
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Bro wat wil be da cutoff in IFS written & interview for an SC student
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@alpesh ya dere is a weight height ratio required fr ifos nd d medical requirments r given at ifs.nic.in
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@neha yaa definately all d engg branches r eligible
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@sunil last yr cutoff fr genral categ ws 595 so fr sc it cud b around 560-570
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sir i have qualified for ifs 2011 interview please guide me how to prepare for interview………
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hey pradeep congrts …….will u teel me ur marks or the grand total ???
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Pradeep congrats!! All the best wishes to you!! Read all the posts in “interview” category including the IAS interview. Appear in as many mock interviews as you can!! Any confusion, post at this forum.
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hello sir,
i am deepika ratan from Hyderabad.i am planning to write IFS Exam in 2012.My optionals are forestry and geology.After long consultations i am unable to figure out proper study material for these optionals.can you please suggest any other resources from where i can seek help .Moreover,if you are aware of any coaching institute which provide IFS coaching then kindly let me know that too.thank you.
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I am an OBC candidate for IFS2012.Once I was an candidate of ES2011 but unable to list my name in final result.It was my second and last attempt for the same.Though I had tried for IFS2011 but not able to seat for this exam due to improper preparation for IFS2011.This will be my firstand last attempt for IFS2012 as per age limit.Please inform me how to prepare for IFS2012. My selected subjects are MECH ENGG & FORESTRY.Please inform me about good FORESTRY books for preparation..waiting for reply.
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Sir u can purchase forestry complete good study material from jawahar book shop ber sarai in new delhi that material is more than enough
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hey shashank but which books for forestry?can you give book list?
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MAn plz all of you! do IFS for the betterment of forest and wildlife, not for powers and money!it’s a humble request from my side!
Our national pride (tiger) is at risk!
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hey shashank,i am an employee of ongc. but i am interested in IFS please let me know..what,,power..we get being an IFS officer…is it better than ongc?…one more thing i want to ask where we get our posting? do we get in city or in jungle type villages.?.
thanks..
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@javed
Sir this job is for those who are passionate about forests trees wildlife protection
its not for fame and comfort for that u fo for indian foreign services u can get all details on examrace.com
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@ruchi
your whole syllabus will be covered in those 8 to 9 books and one more fook called indian forestry contain synopsis of whole syllabus.
original books are not available so far in one place as well as they are soooo expensive
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shashank. i need the book list. i’m in ahmedabad so i’m not able to go to book store but they have online store (http://www.jawahar-book-centre.com/) so if i have book list then i can order.
so do you have name of those 8 to 9 books you are talking about?
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Congrats shudhanshu sir,
Hello to all the participants of the thread..
I am sandeep resident of haridwar also appearing for IFS dis year. My optional are mechanical engg & forestry. Being working its impossible for me to devote enough time to study due to working hours.
So, honestly speaking I am moving to Delhi to take coaching for the above mentioned subject
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Hi i want to take botany and forestry as my optional subjects..can u tell me which are the good centers in delhi for ths 2 subjects..
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Plz let me know, if anybody is interested???
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@tentu. For botany u should join evolution IFS, but before joining Talk to abhishek he is the owner of d coaching….
His contact no can be find through evolution IFS website.
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@sandeep: thanks ..forestry i was looking forward some good books. actually in evolution they gve only classroom coaching no correspondance as such..
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@tentu, m also searching for forestery’s study material. If u have a list of books plz let me know..
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@ruchi
actually they have there phone number also u call them and tell them that u want forestry material they will tell u everything as i dont have forestry material now with me i cant tell u names
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@rushi,sandeep,shashank: i would suggest to read and go through the subject bfr joing any classroom coaching..@sandeep i vl let u knw once i come to know abt it sure..if correspondance good material (forestry,botany) s availble nywhere do let me know
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Thanks tentu……
I would like to suggest u all ( tentu, ruchi, shashank n all) to make a group who r willing to take IFS as a career n want to take forestry as a optional. It will be a great help for all of us.
War say ???
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ya sure that would be excellent gve me ur email id guys i will invite u then and we can have regular discussion about ifs stuffs.
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Thanks tentu……
I would like to suggest u all ( tentu, ruchi, shashank n all) to make a group who r willing to take IFS as a career n want to take forestry as a optional. It will be great help for all of us.
Wat say guys???
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Its me
Sandeep ( sandybharat@ gmail.com)
Haridwar ( uttrakhand)
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rushi.monk@gmail.com
ahmedabad (gujarat)
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Sir,I am an SC candidate and what are the expected cut offs for them..
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And what are the physical standards required?
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Sir,
I hav done B.com(hons.) just wana know if i am elegible for IFS exam i had Satistics as a subject in my IInd year.
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@sandeep
ya sandeep it will be great dear
my email ID is shashank_pansari@yahoo.com
sure nice idea
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@shashank do u hv Gmail I’d??
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Hello to all who cracked the IFoS 2011,
Heartily Congartulations….!!!
I know you all must be busy with celebrations and further proceedings with joining….and you deserve so…
It would be great help if you could find time to post your exp and thoughts…with us…its a great initiative taken by sudhanshu sir for bring all aspiratnts together…would request you to kindly share your wonderful expr with all aspirants like me…we are egarly waiting to be part of the chain…
waiting for all acheivers to respond..
warm regards,
archana
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hello everyone,
anyone from ahmedabad who knows the best place to get study material for GS and english.
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IFS notification is announced or not????????
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Ankita not yet ……….
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@sandeep
ya sandeep i send u request also my gmail id is shashankpanasri@gmail.com
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@gaurav garg.
me from ahmedabad too.
join google groupe IFOS forestservice@googlegroups.com
and find me there. better we stay in contact.
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@rushi couldn’t find the group
could you send me invitation, my email id is gauravgarg115@gmail.com
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I want new vishal publication question bank for previous 10 years papers.
Does anyone know the online resources?
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IFos notification ;;;;;;;;; o 14 april
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Hi sudhanshu
One thing i want to know, does IFoS really stretches to 10 days? I mean isnt it huge?
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Hello All…IFoS aspirants…notification forIFos 2012 is available,last date to fill the form online is 14th May 12′ kindly proceed..!!
All the best to all of you…!!
A humble request to all those who cracked IFoS 2011, kindly share your valuable feedback with us, it would be of great help for aspirants like me.
Warm regards,
Archana
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Dear Sir,
I am working in central gov. service but not satisfied with my job so preparing for IFS exam since few months. Now I am confused with the second optional subject, can you suggest me what would be the best combination with physics, as it was my post graduation subject also.
Thank you
Ramesh Shukla
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I am an IFoS aspirant. Agriculture and Botany are my optional subjects. I have completed M.Sc. in Agriculture. Would love to share and guide those who have opted for same optionals as mine. Group study is always better.
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kind attention.
Notification says
”Government strives to have a workforce which reflects gender balance and women candidates are encouraged to apply”(page 15 bottom line).
”Answer scripts of only those candidates who have obtained the
minimum marks as decided by commission for paper II (General
Knowledge) will be evaluated.” (page 17)
AGRICULTURE AND FORESTRY COMBINATION HAS BEEN PUT TO DEATH (page 17)
concentrate more on GK.
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hi everyone,there are some changes in this year IFS 2012 read discussion blog :http://ifos2012.blogspot.in/
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thnks rishi..fr the update agrcltre nd forestry cant be taken..:p
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There are so many comments now that I have myself lost track..
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Hey guyz, anybody get d link to fill d form of IFS..????
If yes, plz let me knw…..
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Can we rely totally on evolution study material forf optionals??
I want to opt for postal course of evolution…
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do not rely entirely on coaching classes. Expand the horizon of ur study while keeping pace with the classes. Make use of the class notes. Read more.
Major competition of agriculture-forestry students is out of the stage!!
Study. Study. Study.
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Hi sudeshnu sir, I want a suggestion from u.. I want to appear next year and want to tke forestry and botany as optional..Now i dnt want next yr this optionals 2 be declared out by upsc… so i dnt knw wht shld i do..is botany and foresry are safe optionals??? please answer sir i am looking fr ur reply
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Tentu, it is very difficult to answer your question as it depends on UPSC. but the common sense says that these optionals are safe!!
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okk ya thanks sir..actually forestry and agricultre both were applied science so it was easier compared to others..thts why i thnk thy did this..i hope botany wth forestry would go fine….thnk u sir..
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can anyone tell me when will upsc display marklist of ifs 2011 ???????
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Hello Sir,
I read all the above threads.Those were all informative and inspiring.
THANK YOU EVERY BODY.
I am Faizan from Kashmir.I am about to complete my bachelors in forestry by June 2012.I was preparing Agriculture with Forestry but unfortunately, this combination is not allowed from now onwards.So, I have decided to take up Botany as other optional.I want to go for coaching.Sir, your guidelines please.Where should I join??????Moreover does the mode of preparation for civil services and IFS vary,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks
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i am taking botany as one of my optional..about book list i am nt sure..i am still searching..
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@OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD###
(ANYBODY HAVING BOTANY AS OPTIONAL FOR IFS)
PLEASE INFORM ABOUT THE BOOK LIST OF BOTANY FOR IFS.I AM EAGERLY WAITING!!!!!! AND OTHER IMPORTANT TIPS FOR BOTANY
THANKS
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Dear Sir,
I am working in central gov. service but not satisfied with my job so preparing for IFS exam since few months. Now I am confused with the second optional subject, can you suggest me what would be the best combination with physics, as it was my post graduation subject also.
Thank you
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@faizan
Botany books:
1. Text book of botany…by A C Dutta
2. Plant taxonomy …by O P Sharma
3. Plant pathology …by P D Sharma and G N Agrios
4. Microbiology…by Tauro and Kapoor; soil microbiology ..by subbarao.
5. Plant physiology…by pande and sinha + jain publication
6. Embryology…by bhojwani and bhatnagar
7. Plant genetics..by B.D.Singh and Phundan singh
8. Plant breeding…by B.D.Singh and Phundan singh
9. Plant biochemistry…by lehninger
10. Ecology and environment…by P.D.Sharma
11. Economic botany…by S.L.Kocchar.
Go through the syllabus…read selected chapters.
Plant pathology by G N Agrios and plant biochemistry by Lehninger are available as soft copies on http://www.4shared.com
All the best.
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zoology books plzzzz?????????
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anyone of the selected candidates please provide roll no and date of birth so that we will see Ur mark sheet its beneficial for us to mark our limits for examination plz do it as early as possible
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84th ranker (ph category): 001047 07/07/1988
52 nd rank : 032187 12/04/1988
23rd rank : 017341 03/07/1985
it appears that the minimum cut off marks for written were around 550+ for obc.
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do anybody knws that hw many applicants were thr in last year IFS exam??
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i wud like to dicuss on topics related to latest events nd 2 improve GK …if anybody int.do lemme knw…i wud like to dicuss GK/Current topics via chat…pls let me knw asap………
Thanks
Ankita
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thanks chandu thanks a lot
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anyone have the general category mark sheet as botany and zoology optional ?please provide dob and roll no?? Wat is the minimum cutoff for general
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It seems that 23rd ranker is a general category fellow. I am not sure. But if you get 700+ score in written, you will probably get call for d interview.
The strategy should be to get around 150 (130-150) in english, 120+(minimum) in gk and 400+ in optionals for securing urself in d list. Answer writting skills, presentation, crux of the matter counts!!
It will be a great help for all of us if we discuss current issues @ankita. Coz 10 markers in gk paper are tricky. Those 10 markers can shoot up ur score! Eg. People in news, places in news, sports terms, books and authors etc etc.
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thanks chandu..for d support…lets divide the topic…till june and start discussing..my gmail id is ankita.hospitaladmn@gmail.com
we will start with Indian constitution & their articles….pls decide the timings for online chat asap…time is running..tick tok tik…………….
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you can add tashildarchandu@gmail.com.
Well…how abt a sunday morning? Time is really running out. 22 days left for the prelims.
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i hv sent a req at ur id. Kindly accept. let us discuss our constitution part-wise…i.e part I, II, III, IV, IV A in our first discussion (Articles 1-51A ). Then we can switch over to the remaining. This would make our preparation specific and perfect. The issue wid these articles is that we cannot simply by-heart them. Clarity is must.
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ya sure..wat time on sunday chandu??
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sunday 9:00 am
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ok
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hiii m sahil nd any1 here seriously prep. 4 ifos ..my sub.r botany nd zoology ..if any1 wants to discss anything..do call me …m gonna appear 4 ifos 2012 ..09469742018 nd my id is sahilkesar87@yahoo.com
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hi sahil,we can start…my subject r too bot.and zoo..and my id is ankita.hospitaladmn@gmail.com……………so wen do you want to start??
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Thanks a lot Chandu.As it’s quite clear from the comments of chandu and ankita that both of you have botany as one of the optionals.I am going to write ifs 2013.So far i have not started boatny yet due to agri-forestry aombination.
Dear chandu, I have noted down the book list.Moreover I would like to know about the botany coaching at Evolution.Is that a right place for botany and general studies.
THANKS
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HELP
where to get best of the botany notes in delhi for ifs,please help
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u welcome.
Well…i’m not sure abt botany coaching classes. But coaching for gk does help a lot. Self study matters at the end.
Botany books in delhi should not be a problem. But still, u can get them at IARI (INDIAN AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE) pusa campus, near shishir hostel.
All the best.
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@ faizan.. U asked for botany notes…i don’t have any idea about ready made notes.
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hi faizan..i will help u out for botany notes..nd short tricks to learn..pls msg ur email id…u can study via online chat too..
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mail received..thanks chandu
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appearing in ifs 2012 ,optional botany and zoology any who is willing to discuss with these optional are welcome
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hi romy…i am interested in discussion pls let me knw for further discussions…or mail me at ankita.hospitaladmn@gmail.com
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hello ankita nice to see u here i will contact u at yr gmail id
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can anybody give me the full marks list of successsfull ifos 2011candidates?also if chandu,ankita,…others who gave ifs this year,can u pls share ur subject wise marks details
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@RISHI–ok.
@romy–will b available at 11pm today…
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well…i wrote ifs-2011 totally unprepared, amidst colloquium and thesis submission of masters programme,…a kind of one-night-show…here are my marks:
GK….88
ENGLISH….136
AGRI 1….67
AGRI 2….68
BOTANY 1….83
BOTANY 2….69
Surprisingly, I did ”exceptionally” good in botany… and performed poor in my own stream of post graduation..i.e. Agriculture….but wid dedicated efforts, we can score even better.
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respctd sir,
aftr spendng ample tym on surfng….i came across dis awesum link..
its truely helpful 4 d ifs aspirants
i’m an agriculture graduate
last yr i gave dis exm as my 1st attempt wth agri and forestry as optionals
bt 4m dis yr we cnt take d two
nw i’ve decided to take agri and botany
just wantd 2 knw……
1) hw often does upsc changes d pattern?
i hav a fear dat aftr takng d subjcts as optionals, studyng 4 it, and if at d last moment upsc declares it invalid……..wat would i do……!!!!!
2) will it change it d nxt yr too?
3) hw cn v knw d subjct wise cutoff marks?
4) is 1 yr sufficient for preparatn of dis exm?
5) i’m a pg agri student…..cn i manage both studyng for pg and ifs preparatn?
plzz do reply sir………
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J.C.Kala committee came up with a revised pattern for improving IFoS recruitment over next 20 years. IIFM graduates were declared eligible for IFoS. If the committee’s decision is to be considered sacrosanct, do not expect any major changes for the next 20 years!!!
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Thanks Neha for nice words. Here is answer to your questions:-
1. The changes in the pattern are rare, to say the least. And they are quite far apart, temporally. Don’t fear. It was unfortunate, but then it has already happened.
2. I don’t think it wil change.
3. There is no need to know subject wise cut off. Try to score maximum possible in each subject. Don’t neglect any. Anyways, UPSC doesn’t declare subject wise cutoff.
4.Yes, it is sufficient provided there is single minded devotion.
5.Don’t give much importance to pg. Concentrate on IFS.
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thnx a lot sir 4 ur precious sharng….. 🙂
i hav few more queries
1. i’m an agri graduate, so i’m kepng agri and botany bt as d exm is indian FOREST service……..do i hav 2 study a bit of forestry too (in interview pt of view)
2. for d preparatns, i’m relyng entirely on notes of coachngs….. do i need 2 make my own notes as well?
3. as mentiond by u, shld i go 4 vajiram and ravi’s notes for gs?
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thnk yeu chandu……
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chandu u r doing very well dear 🙂
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http://www.iaszoology.com/ the best site for reference .see it
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hey chandu
my subjects r agri & botany
kindly help me wth dem
will evolution notes b enough?
i’m an agri pg student…. so i cn afford only postal courses
does evolution provides dis?
if nt…den wch coachng’s notes shuld i prefer?
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@ forest:
I don’t think notes of coaching classes can really make much difference. Read books. Formulate ur own notes. As far as agriculture is concerned, there cannot be a better source than our UG notes..well presented and well updated. Coaching classes may just give u a horizontal outlook.
if u are okay with agriculture, there should not be any problem with botany-2.
Botany-1 can be li’l bit different for us. But still, it is related. A large chunk of microbiology and plant pathology is familiar to us. Taxonomy can be a problem, but a systematic approach shall take care of it (with only 5 questions to attempt, we can easily avoid taxonomy questions to the minimum).
May i know ur subject for pg? Mine was plant pathology. I completed pg from UAS Dharwad. Here, they literally squeez students in research activities. If u have a better pg atmoshere, kindly pay more attention to IFoS. We can divide topics to be read on daily basis and discuss them at the end.
Thanx.
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plz anyone have any idea about forestry subject and where the notes are available.???..botany and forestry is same for me means new subjects so I want to take forestry because I think it is easy than botany and anyone knows that how to change the subject after filling the form ???or i have to fill a new one
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@ sandip
I don’t know whether it is feasible or not, but I know 2 ‘hot-spots’ where ‘forestry’ has been traditionally a favourite subject for IFoS….
1. Tamil Nadu Agriculture University, Coimbatore.
2. College of Forestry, Sirsi, Karnataka.
If you are determined enough for forestry, you can contact these two place.
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this forum is amajing i would like to say a lot of thanks to sudhanshu sir .I M trying for IFoS 2012&would like to say all aspirants do not think about cutt off but try for best as you can do.do not count attempt but this should be final attempt 4 U.my optional is ZOOLOGY,BOTANY MOB. NO -08960060609 Pls c me for further communiation
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Respected Sudhanshu Sir,
Pls form an activity/test series for all of us fr GK.GE/Bot/zoo..and give us a last date for submission of our ans…i knw u dnt hve much time 2 check and revert.We all jus need a consistency nd timeline to prepare..
else pls tell us hw 2 focus on which topics more as we have left with only 2 months….
pls reply sir
Thanks
Ankita
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@Ankita
Let me see if I can do. Btw, the best thing would be to revise on your own as much as you can… I remember, in my time I used to study from 9 in the morning to 3 in the night at one go {for two days preceding the optional paper}..and that was because I wanted to revise each and everything just before the exams!!
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Thanks alot sir for kind response:-)i will try my level best..
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Dear Ankita, my i.d is : mirfaizananwar@ymail.com
what about the botany notes??????
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hi faizan…apologies…i was a bit in office stuff..will mail u asap i ll gt free..
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hi sudhanshu sir pls tell me that how one can revise whole syll.My opt. is zoology ,botany &there is no any gap in G.S.,ZOOLOGY,BOTANY .MR. GANGA SHARAN SINHGH IS A TRANIEE IFos belongs to our locality .do you know him?mob 8960060609. pls provide ur mob no. if possible
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Hi..everyone,
Will anyone tell me how many words should we used for answering the 20 marks questions in each section of optinal subjects.
Thank You.!
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the main problem is how to motivate yourself because I fell that it is very hard to be in time table .??…..and also anyone tell me how to prepare for botany I don’t want to do complete syllabus
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Hi all,
please suggest me some good institutes which is giving coaching for Forestry in Delhi,and also suggest books for forestry.
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SIR,
its great to find this site,thanks a lot for your valuable suggestions sir,please suggest books for forestry, eagerly waiting for your reply,
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hii ankita did u got my mail
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hey sahil…mighty apologies…cudnt make m out of town nd busy with office work..
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Upsc has uploaded ifos exam time table , check it out its web pagey
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I need the answer of 2 questions foretry people please have a look
a) How do variation in density and quality of forest influence annual yield estimation
b) What is working cirlce? How is it decided in working plan exercise?
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@sundeepnodiyal when u get a preparation plan for botany pls tell me also, its so boring i m regreretting it i shud hv taken forestry or agriculture .
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@ akshita yaa its boring bt I have done it around 80% & I am BSc biotech and I had never learn botany in my graduation so its little bit complicated for me thats why I need guidance from someone who have experience and forestry is good and scoring optional but the problem is that the notes are not easily available I also searched a lot but lastly I made my mind with botany… are U preparing for 2012? then u r late its around only 1 month left stick with the optional that U r preparing with
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@@sundeep nodiyal yes i applied this year &its my first time so i m little scared .ihave revised my syllabus one time .what i mean to say is that its boring , i hv to motivate myself very much to study it,its was one of my sub. In grad. But i still i love stuying zoo..,i just cannot picturize in my like i can zoo. Concepts but i m revising it anyway…how is the preparation for g.k is going on.? I am now more towrds gk but revising my subjects also .all the best for ur preparation and exam (notes are a prob for forestry)
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@ akshita 🙂 mine is also first attempt but till today I have not completed my course still trying hard to achieve it.ya u r right zoology is more interesting than botany ..M presently focusing towards subjects after that I move towards Gk portion..
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Will u use vajiram notes or ncert for history and geography. & botany is going to be difficult b’cause we will nt get even single day 4revision in zoo. At there will b 1day gap. This way too agri. Or forestry wud hv been good choice as revision is very immp. But wailing is useless so study as much as i can.
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ims4maths.com/coaching/toppers is the address of web where marks of ifos and ias topper can b seen for physics and maths optional
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@ankitasingh hey ankita u said u hv tricks 4learning botany .pls tell me abut them botany is giving me a constant state of headache and if u hv sm notes which r easy to study pls mail me them at bella78luna@gmail.com i will b thankful to u.
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Gk is not a big issue for me …….m afraid of my subjects especially botany 🙂
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hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii everyone please help with your tips and notes if any for zoology botany and/or GK.. you can contact at onesiraj@gmail.com. And you can contact me to get any kind of help which i can.. 🙂 thank you
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@akshita–pls refer Bendre nd Pande book..u ll gt everything frm basic…coz 2 understand botany u need to understand from basic..else u ll nt b able to learn short tricks…
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@ankitasingh thanks 4responding .i will see it.
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@ankitasingh i do understand basics its just botany phobia that i am a little scared of it. Its one of my sub in grad. So i do know the basics but still thanks
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It’s great to see you guys interacting on this forum..what I would like, though, is that after getting through, you guys must put forth your experiences down here..it may seem very boring, but it helps the aspirants immensely…those who were successful this year, should do that..
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Dear Sudhanshu Sir,
I would like to thank you for taking this initiative, this is great help to all of us aspiring candidates for IFS. I wrote IFS last year, while I didn’t expect to get through the written due to inadequate time for preparations. I was very confident about my score in English, I was shocked to score just 121/300, this has somehow shaken my confidence. I would like to ask, if there is a specific way of writing essays for such exams, same with letter writing. I write a personal blog here at wordpress(wonderfulwandering.wordpress.com), if time permits, please go through one of the articles and kindly comment if there is something wrong with my writing style.
I appreciate your help! Many Thanks!
Best,
Shreya
wonderfulwandering.wordpress.com
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how about the BOTANY notes being provided by coaching centers.I want to consult the notes as a reference so that I get to make best out of reading the concerned books.So please let me know about the one whereby I can rely upon,,,,,,,thanks
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@mirfaizan brilliants and evolutions notes r available but think evolutions r good and easy to understand. U can buy them from jawahar book depot ber saraai,delhi
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thanks akshita malik,,,,great of you,,,,,
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Could anybody help me by suggesting some good books for:
1. Ancient and Medieval Indian history (for ifos)
2. General Geography (for ifos)
Moreover, It’s hard to find the sufficient SPORTS TERMS?????
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For history u can use ncert of 11 &12 class . Same for geography. For sports termss i have a book of Rgupta’s general knowledge for ifs ,it has english and g.k both in it but i feel after stuying it that its good for english and some general awareness part. There is also tata macgrawhill and rgupta’s general study for ias(cse)it has everything in it history,polity geo. Economics sprts terms author’name maps imp.places.but its material is more than what is required in ifos but still u can check it.
@mirfazan
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Few days left for CSAT……..wishing all d best to those who r appearing…
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GOOD LUCK
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Is forestry a good scoring optional in IFS for aspirants from non-forestry background? Could anyone throw some light on this ?
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Are there anyone from hyderabad preparing for IFS,kindly let me know . I want guidance ,it will be great help for me..Plz
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Sudhanshu sir,
I jus wanna knw dt if u r facing damn worst personal problems in ur life..then hw to overcome from it as exams r quite near…
Please reply sir.
Thanks
Ankita
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@ Ankita: We all face problems in r lives, we all have issues..”But in a day when u don’t face problems rest assured you are traveling in the wrong path”..We cant control everything in our life..so u have to develop the serenity to accept the things u cannot change..courage to change the things u can…and wisdom to know the difference..on a lighter vein..know that everything is temporary in this life..just as happy moments don’t stay fr long similarly bad moments also pass by..so cheer up something very good is round the corner for you!!!!!!!!!
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Sudhanshu sir,
I am preparing 1st time for IFS exam-2012, my optional are Geology and Forestry, could you please suggest me some prescribed books, so that it helps me to study straight away them.
Thanking you sir.
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@ Ankita
Everything will go your way once you get through! So, don’t pay heed to any of your emotions and prepare for the exams in a single-minded fashion..
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Dear sudanshu sir ,
I am going to write IFS for the third time this year , last time in 2011 i got 541 marks .so i was searching for the cut off marks & found this site . Now i have an idea hou much to aim for .
Thanks a lot
Priya
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@tentu–Thankyou so much:-)
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@Sudhanshu Sir–Thanks alot sir
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sir i wanted to know that i will be appearing in the IFS exam for the first time this year..my optionals are agriculture and botany ..my preparation is not so good..so should i go for it..??
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sir,
i’m doing my btech in information technology.i want to appear for UFS exam.please give suggestion on choosing my optional subjects since all are new to me.
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Though younger in age to comment, I am amazed & happy to see an OFFICER of such a high rank finding out time to Guide the upcoming aspirants in relation to a not so popular younger brother of the prestigious CSE. Dear Sir, your efforts are dually respected and your guidance is equally ingratiated. I feel you are creating a difference between “An Officer” and “An Officer-Guide with solidarity”.
Thank You Sir.
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Thanks Hemant for your nice words!!
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@king alijah – hi king (cmnt 227) , i think upsc shouldn’t allow to appear for ifos and civil service (ias,ips) on same year , so only those who are dedicated to join ifs gets in. he he.
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have a greetings of the day sir!!!!
I am utsav patel from ahmedabad, gujarat. I have completed B.pharm and want to join Indian Forest Services. But there are so many confusions about eligibility criteria of pharmacy graduate.please help me by suggesting tht whether a pharmacy graduate is eligible for Indian Forest Services or not
thank you
.
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Sir, firstly congrats…….. My name is Ankur and i am doing b.tech from CUSAT. My branch is polymer science and engineering. I have chose chemistry as an optional subject. i am confused about 2nd one…….. plz help me to chose 2nd optional subject. And suggests required materials for the concerned subjects. I am waiting for your reply sir. My email id is ankur0412@gmail.com. thank you
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hi everybody………… I am working with ONGC as a Geologist and appearing for IFoS 2012 with Forestry and Geology optional…………. anybody needs any help regarding geology optional can contact me on e mail id: dayadilse@gmail.com………………i will be happy to share my knowledge of geology with all of you.
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have a greetings of the day sir!!!!
I am utsav patel from ahmedabad, gujarat. I have completed B.pharm and want to join Indian Forest Services. But there are so many confusions about eligibility criteria for pharmacy graduate.please help me by suggesting tht whether a pharmacy graduate is eligible for Indian Forest Services or not.My email id is utsavpatelpharma@yahoo.in
thank you
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hey….i am priya…if anybody wants material for forestry geology and mechanical engg pls mail me…..i have the whole material according tio the syllabus its frm brilliant tutorisals…………mail me at priya.mech36@gmail.com
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hi
it would be of great help to me if I can get the notes on forestry and geology of Brilliant Tutorials. Contact me at lucknowdewas@gmail.com.
– shivam
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hii……..sam i am frm hyd and preparing for ifs ………..
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hello Sir,
sir m ritesh kumar and m preparing for IFS Xam this year. sir i have a doubt regarding to cut off marks, Sir is dere individual cut off marks for each subject or aggregate cut off on all four subject. pls Sir reply me nd help me out frm dis confusn.
regards,
ritesh kumar.
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hi sir,,I completed my BBA and MBA ,,but i dont know that– im eglible for IFS or not by minimum education qualification criteria ,,sir i read that criteria but i become confused bcz i not taken any science or maths subject in graduation.im from bussiness administration field. Sir kindly guid me that im egligible or not.,,,,,thanks
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Hello guys,
Would be vastly grateful to you if you could help me identify books for Geology.
Paper I:
Section A –
General Geology:
Geomorphology and Remote Sensing:
Structural geology:
Section B –
Paleontology:
Stratigraphy and Geology of India:
Hydrogeology and Engineering Geology:
Paper II:
Section A –
Mineralogy:
Igneous and Metamorphic Petrology:
Sedimentology:
Section B –
Economic Geology:
Mining Geology:
Geochemistry & Environmental Geology:
And let me heartily thank a man here, who I feel is always ready to help people, Mr. Daya Shankar. He has endeavored to guide me through the same and relevant e-books.
God Bless You.
Thanks folks,
Hemant.
hemantm.210685@gmail.com
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have a greetings of the day sir!!!!
I am utsav patel from ahmedabad, gujarat. I have completed B.pharm and want to join Indian Forest Services. But there are so many confusions about eligibility criteria for pharmacy graduate.please help me by suggesting tht whether a pharmacy graduate is eligible for Indian Forest Services or not.My email id is utsavpatelpharma@yahoo.in
God bless you… thank you
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Hi Sudhanshu,
I am 25 now and have been planning to go for IFS from quite some time now.
I have been an electronics n comm engineer and working with MNC as Software tester.
I am opting for Forestry aa one of my optionals.
can u suggest me other optional.
As I talked to a physics teached he suggested, physics is way too hard go for some easier subject.
will Botany or agriculture engineering be a good option?
Need ur help.
Thanks in advance 🙂
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Hi sudhanshu
I am a Mechanical Engineer and interested in IFoS. The thing is, i will be going to HK for work purpose for 9 months, since i will be targetting IFoS 2013, is it possible to study while working?
Regards
Shashank Gangil
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wish you all the best for the final seconds
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@shashank
my optional r mech engg & geology………
@sudhanshu sir
sir pls suggest the mech engg text book u had prep 4r exam ……
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hello sir i am avikalpa rai sinha passed class 12th with maths stream. i am opting for bsc geology and want to continue with this subject to get through indian forest services please give me he necessary details and tips…….i have no other aim than i.f.s
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hello sir i am avikalpa rai sinha. i have just passed class 12h with maths and now i am going to pursue bsc geology.. my only and only aim in life is INDIAN FOREST SERVICES i just want your guidance as i know you have been the torch bearer for thousands…. i want to know what should be my first step towards i.f.s and currently i am referring to ncert class 6th to 12th books for general studies what else should i do? i would be highly fortunate if u revert back…….
thank you
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hello everybody,,,,
anybody having GEOLOGY as one of the optionals.please convey the book list and related information regarding the same,,,,,,,,,thanks
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please like Facebook page IFS preparation
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hey ankita, chandu, akshita malik….. i want to start IFS preparation for IFS 2013 . I need some information about it. plz guyz mail me or call me plz plz plz ….
Worstguy11@gmail.com & my phone no. is +918819912366, +917869241648
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hello there,
I’m a IIT kharagpur graduate in Agriculture and Food Engg and willing to appear for IFS 2013.
has anyone taken ‘agricultural engg’ as one of the optional subjects??
it’s been difficult to find any related material..i’ve come to notice in past years a very few have taken it as an optional subject..
Please Share any information regarding this or mail me at maeddy08@gmail.com
thank you all for reading this and share any info for the greater good of IFS of course if you are able to :l
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kindly mail ur valuble suggestions guys!!!!! ^_^
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@sudanshu sir,
m planning to join evolution.. sir pls
i need ur advice n i know it will b helpful for me. ^_^
regards,
deepika
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Hello People,
how was the exam?????
Well..for me gk was li’l bit problematic…it’s all about ‘time management’ during the exam.
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@chandu,,,I am writing in 2013.How did you perform.
Could you please provide some information about GEOLOGY.Which books and study material to consult as I didn’t feel comfortable with Botany>Please help!!!!!!!!!
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@faizan
This year’s exam had many twists and turns…upsc is hinting at a flexible pattern, which changes every year. English paper had 2 letters, 2 precise paragraphs and usual grammar. Gk was easy but we must concentrate on the skill of expressing more things in less words..and that too strictly as per the available time. Botany was simple. I faced li’l problem wid agri-2. That’s it.
Upsc asks for 50-55 per cent. So, anything between 700-750 in written would place you in a safe zone. Let’s see. The major competition from agri-forestry guys is absent this year. So, cut-off is likely to come down (that’s a pure anticipation).
I’m so sorry…i don’t have any idea about geology. But it looks similar to geography. You shouldn’t have any problems with it. As far as botany is concerned, well planned and smart preparation can fetch you a good score. May i know ur subject of specialisation in graduation??
Choose optional subject based on following priorities:
1. Your interest and comfort
2. Notes and other material available in the market
3. Group of students opting for the subject
Well, for geology material, i suggest u to go through the syllabus and speak to professors n students in d universities…like DU. You may get valuable guidance there. Search for successful candidates wid geology as an optional subject.
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Thanks for your response dear Chandu.
I am a Forestry graduate.Earlier this year, I started preparing Botany but the traditional botany posed the problem.As Botany is infamous in Kashmir Adm Service, I would like to be in the safe zone.Please help with more valuable suggestions as I am not going for pg(I finished my degree a month back)
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I don’t have much acquaintances here in Kashmir.What about the coaching sir????
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@faizan ..if u r going to opt for botany, coaching by ‘evolution’ classes in delhi will be a good decision. it will help u to deal with botany from basics and that too in an ‘exam oriented’ way. if u r not comfortable with botany, better not to opt for it. instead, u can start thinking seriously about geology. just go through the syllabus and google the study material. i’m sure u’ll get loads n loads of info.
as far as botany is concerned, u might hv problems wid botany-1. people face problems when it comes to taxonomy. well, u can tackle botany-1 easily. just pay more attention to microbiology, plant pathology, embryology, economic botany and other chapters excluding taxonomy. there are 8 questions in the paper, out of which we hv to attempt any 5. by this way, u can easily avoid those taxonomy questions. this is a dangerous task too. some taxonomy questions may crop-in in compulsory questions. there is a solution for this problem too. when u r done wid remaining chapters, u can study selected families (there are 15-20 imp families frm angiosperms) while referring to previous yr’s que papers. some questions frm lower plants hv been repeated again n again.
for geology, what i think is u hv to start geology frm grass-root level. anyways, geology stuff sounds much easier to understand for a layman too; while for botany, one must be thorough wid basics.
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@Chandu,,,Sir, it is really great of you!
What remains for me is to choose one out these two optionals.
I’ll once again try to figure out the problems on botany.Now, the task for me is to thoroughly go through the syllabus and exam papers.
Coaching at Mukherjee Nagar is all the way difficult due to financial constraints.Sir,,,btw, how much does it cost to stay in Delhi.Hope you will reply!
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@faizan….yeah..it’s better to first go through the syllabus. In delhi u hv to keep aside at least 15-20k monthly for rent, food and other needs (to be on a leisure side. People manage within 15k too). As far as coaching classes r concerned, fee for vajiram-gs is 56k….and for individual subjects it is around 30k. This affair has become too costly nowadays. Dedicated and sincere Self-study is the best option.
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@Chandu,,,,Sir, thats what stops me to think about Delhi.
Moreover, could you please give me some details about Geology from your acquaintances.How is to take in IFoS???
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Though younger in age to comment, I am amazed & happy to see an OFFICER of such a high rank finding out time to Guide the upcoming aspirants in relation to a not so popular younger brother of the prestigious CSE. Dear Sir, your efforts are dually respected and your guidance is equally ingratiated. I feel you are creating a difference between “An Officer” and “An Officer-Guide with solidarity”
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@ chandu, Sir m graduate with Biology. Thinking for 2013 exam, sir should I choose Botany and agri as optional… and kindly give me some suggesns for GS and English.!
Plz mail me… @ Worstguy11@gmail.com.
Thank u sir 🙂
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Sir, I’m a civil engineer and just passed out of college this june. I have given the exam this year with agriculture and civil engg. I’m expecting around 250 in paper1 and 2 of civil, above 220 in English and around 130 in gk. I didnt prepare much for agriculture and managed to write the paper with my previous, school’s knowledge and some part of irrigation engg’s( covered in civil engg) knowledge, but I have attempted all the questions decently except for some real technical qustions in paper2 of agriculture and written whatever relevant I knew, what score would be sufficient to get final call safely.
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@faizan…..i really don’t know anyone who opted for geology or is opting for the same. you can get the info from universities as mentioned earlier. geology can be a good option. go through the syllabus and question papers.
@mohsin….as u r graduate with ‘biology’, i don’t think u’ll face difficulties with botany and agri. both are related.
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Chandu Sir,,,thanks and hope you’ll keep on guiding in future as well!
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@faizan
See this link….might be helpful for u. competitionstoday.blogspot.com/2010/10/ifs-2006-geology-question-paper.html?m=1
I googled ‘geology as optional subject for IFS’.
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@ chandu… thank u sir.. plz suggest me study material for GK and English…
And I have collected syllabus and study materials list from examrace.com for agri and botany… is that ok…? plz reply
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@mohsin
It’s better if you read from standard books. These notes are not well updated. For example, Calvin cycle….notes will complete it in few steps. But Calvin cycle is much more than that…books will give you exact cycle + carbon/ATP balance sheet. If your notes have all the required points, then it’s okay. If not, you may end up in a sub-standard answer in exam.
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Sir, I’m a civil engineer and just passed out of college this june. I have given the exam this year with agriculture and civil engg. I’m expecting around 250 in paper1 and 2 of civil, above 220 in English and around 130 in gk. I didnt prepare much for agriculture and managed to write the paper with my previous, school’s knowledge and some part of irrigation engg’s( covered in civil engg) knowledge, but I have attempted all the questions decently except for some real technical qustions in paper2 of agriculture and written whatever relevant I knew, what score would be sufficient to get final call safely.
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@ chandu…Thanku once again sir…. Sir in this website ( http://www.examrace.com ) there are book list also… plz have a look and kindly tell those books will be sufficient or not… ? 🙂
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@chandu…. sir plz reply….!
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@mohsin
Plz don’t call me sir..it is very embarrassing ..i’m a student..just like u. Well..i went through examrace site. The list of the books is okay. More than enough i would say…
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@ chandu…..Okay thanks….. 🙂 Can we Talk… My cell no. is +918819912366 plz call or msg me..!
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hi!!!!
i m a science graduate n preparing fr ifs.
i m confused abt the optionals from pcm group.
which is the best :-
phy,math
phy,chem
chem,math.
reply plzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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@chandu…….’this year major competition from agri-forestry students is absent’ what do you mean by that……..this year zoology I paper was very very lengthy……and zoology paper II was much difficult…….same was the case with Vet. Sci & AH……
so i think cut off should b lesser this time
last time it was probably around 600……
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The exam is very unpredictable……while in 2008 even 960 marks are insufficient to make it to the final selection, last year 938 marks secured the 3rd rank……
what do you say……
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@ mohsin..I will msg you.
@aristocrat..agriculture and forestry combination was most successful one before…both subjects are related. An agri. student is comfortable with forestry and vice versa. In short, the students of this combination used to get high scores in written. The merit too used to touch 930+.
But, this year onwards, UPSC has scrapped this combination, and hence, majority of agri-forestry students have either not applied or have come up with a new subject. With UPSC keeping the students guessing with its ‘flexible’ pattern of questions, the merit may come down this year. This is just a speculation.
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@Dhiraj…….All optionals are equally scoring……UPSC has no penchance for a particular optional……Regarding the selection of Optionals, interest in the subject should be the sole criterion……..If you dont enjoy studying an optionals, you wont be able to study consistently to compete for the marathon competition…..So in my opinion, interest in the subject, availibility of study material, availability of guidance, coupled with self-assessment will act as beacons to guide you how to plan for your ambitions……..
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@chandu……thanks for the concern…….yes you are right……i think this year overall level of difficulty was much higher than last year……in GK conventional areas where missing like trade mark Sports terms…….english paper was lengthy…..in zoology paper I, each compulsory question was having 8 subparts and each subpart used to be of 40 mark weightage in earlier times……zoology paper II was a surprize to many that they left examination hall after 1 1/2 hr and never returned back for the second optional….Same was the case with AH & VS,…..that way i think cut off will be lesser this time
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@aristocrat
Indeed, the questions were quite different this year. As far as agri is concerned, paper II was more oriented towards ‘basic fundamentals’, ‘minor subjects…which I neglected’ and technicalities. It would be wrong to say that papers were lengthy. If we would hv followed the prescribed word limit, poor time management would nt hv occured. That is what UPSC wants. It wants us to develop the ability of describing what we ‘know’ in minimum possible words. In GK paper too, I spent a lot of time on geography questions…describing them in detail. Thus, i had to sacrifice other questions due to paucity of time.
Anyways..we should not think about it now. Whatever happened was for a greater good. Let’s hope for the best.
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@chandu…….in complusory questions i exceeded the word limit (almost double the prescribed word limit in some questions)……will it leave a negative impression on the evaluator…….
in CSAT i was having a score in the range of 205-215…….couldnt qualify
what was your score in CSAT
I have already sent you an e-mail on ur id you had provided here……stay in touch brother……
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@aristocrat
Definately it will create a bad impression. The examiner will not check ‘how much you know’ but will check your ability to write what u know in prescribed word limit. I asked this doubt to some of my teachers. They gave a different opinion. They said that our marks will not be deducted, but exceeding word limit will eat away other questions….an indirect loss!
I too did not qualify in the civil services prelims. I was expecting anything around 190. I could not complete CSAT but did fairly well in GS. The results came as a shock for me. Nevertheless, I have learnt a lesson of ‘time management’ in my first attempt. People are saying that merit has touched close to 200 this year. I’m quite surprised that u did not make it. There is a friend of mine who was confident of scoring 125 in csat. But could not perform well in gs…he expected to get 70-80 in gs. By that way, he would hv easily crossed 200 limit. But he too did not pass through. Maybe there is separate passing of 50% in csat and gs.
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@chandu….i subscribe to your teacher’s opinion that exceeding word limit is not going to affect ones scoring in any question…….i think word limit is just a guide, if you dont follow it you wont be able to do justice to all questions that are being asked……i dont think that cut off in CSAT would have been less than 205……..and ther are no separate cut offs for sure……..Failures are part of life dear……..dont get bogged down by them……evuluate your failures, draw valuable lessons from them and keep forging relentlessly towards your goal……
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@aristocrat
Yeah. True. I learnt a lot from this chance. I quote saint Tukaram,
”asadhya te sadhya
Karita saayas,
Kaaran abhyaas,
Tuka mhane”
Meaning: saint Tukaram says impossible shall become possible, if u try and practice harder.
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sir
is this required to solve all the questions given in the paper to exact answer ?
if exact answer don’t come then what happens ?
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hello,
those of the fellows who wrote this years ifs exam, please come with more of the information for the upcoming aspirants.
please guide regarding g.k paper of ifs.
waiting with regards
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please help,,,,how to start preparing for g.k.i am a fresher.is it possible to cover the syllabus within a year.
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ir, I’m a civil engineer and just passed out of college this june. I have given the exam this year with agriculture and civil engg. I’m expecting around 250 in paper1 and 2 of civil, above 220 in English and around 130 in gk. I didnt prepare much for agriculture and managed to write the paper with my previous, school’s knowledge and some part of irrigation engg’s( covered in civil engg) knowledge, but I have attempted all the questions decently except for some real technical qustions in paper2 of agriculture and written whatever relevant I knew, what score would be sufficient to get final call safely.
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i’m an st student and have civil engg branch, hw many marks should be obtained by me to get selected in ifs out of 1400….
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@Luv……….it is very difficult task to predict the cut off……..around 1,00,000 applicants, out of which around 60,000 write the exam, 240 get the call for interview…….for general category you have to be among the top 25……nobody can predict the cut off……..however based of previous results, 700 score must get u a call for interview……….
@Rahul……..last year, candidates with 570 score got a call for interview……hope that this year it will be lesser than that………best of luck……
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this Jairam Ramesh came, spoiled everything and went away. Kindly see this report by J.C.KALA committee.
http://www.ifs.nic.in/misc/KALA_committee_Report_IFS.pdf
The committee has suggested that ‘a minimum marks should be fixed for general knowledge paper to screen out the candidates so that upsc need not handle evaluation of large no. of answer papers. If they wanted to do it, why did they conduct entire examination? They could have simply put a preliminary test! Such a waste of time, efforts and answer sheets of students!!
What about this ‘minimum marks’ drama now??? Does anyone know about it? upsc’s favourite limit for ‘minimum marks’ would be 50% i guess. That comes to 150 marks! Highly impossible for me 😦
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@chandu……qualifying marks in UPSC exams have never been greater than 33 %……..50 % is followed by professional colleges only…….even toppers are in 130-160 range……..
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@chandu
i appeared in ifos exam this year with physics and maths as optionals.i agree with ur views regarding pattern change and difficulty levels of english and gk but don’t agree with that of optionals. i have no idea about ur optionals but physics paper this year was quite easy, especially paper 2 was very easy and short(provided candidates thoroughly practiced from previous years papers ). most of the questions were repetitive and few interlinked questions were also asked. the first paper of physics which is considered the difficult paper was just of moderate difficulty (much easier than last year). all numericals were easy and most of the questions were factual. i think anybody with thorough preparation could have scored full marks in second paper and 150+ in the first paper.
same was in the case of maths paper. maths paper 2 (which is considered the difficult paper) was easy due to the straight forward nature of questions, though lengthy. all the questions asked were from standard books and few questions were repeated from previous years. so cross checking of the answers after the exams became easy. i hope anybody with thorough preparation from standard books could have attempted 150+ marks in paper 2 easily(since there were no options in compulsory questions, scoring above 170+ was slighly difficult because generally students tend to leave one unit from paper 2 due to lengthy syllabus). same was my case too!!!.
maths paper 1(which is considered the easy paper) was slightly tough, not because difficult questions were asked but because of pattern change.
in previous years, generally except the compulsory questions, all parts of a question of paper 1 was asked from the same unit. this helped the students to be a bit selective regarding the first paper. this way students used to prepare for 4 units thoroughly for the first paper(out of six units) to save time to devote to the second paper because students have to prepare for almost all units in paper 2 since subparts of a question in paper 2 are asked from various units unlike the first paper. i think upsc might have realized this and in order to compel the students to prepare for paper 1 without skipping a single unit, they mixed the questions from various units under a single main question. that is, all sub parts of a question were asked from different units like paper 2. the weightage of marks given to various units were also changed. this shows how unpredictable upsc has become. but still person with good preparation could have attempted 120+ marks easily and those lucky ones who prepared five units thoroughly(out of six) in paper 1 will definitely cross 150+ marks boundary easily. i think maths physics combo will definitely have a higher success rate this year.what are ur views?
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@Prabith……yaar bachchon ki jaan lo gay kya 🙂
What you said, translats into scores 900
means cut off for general category can be 800 ……..
Hope that engineers leave some space for zoologist and Vet.s, both optionals very probably most difficult in the history of IFoS……
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@prabith
That’s a good news. looks like UPSC is in need of Physicists and mathematecians in ifs to invent some more god particles!
Well…u mentioned ‘units’ in maths. Same is the case with my optional ..agriculture. In paper 2, quite a good number of questions were asked from ‘minor’ topics which i never cared to revise. I have attempted those questions in a vague manner. For u fellows, it is very simple….solve a numerical and u can get cent percent marks for it.
@aristocrat….let’s hope that the limit for ‘minimum marks’ doesn’t cross 100. That would be 33%..! I can’t believe it… fetching 33% has become a herculian task!
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@ Chandu……I absolutely agree with you. I wrote the xam this year and I too don’t expect getting 150 marks in g.k… I can get a max. of 110 if the examiner is very liberal.. I read Kala committee report. Don’t you think they are talking about the combined marks of g.k. and english for setting the cut off limit??
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just imagine a situation where u r confident of scoring 150+ in every optional, but fail to cross upsc’s ‘minimum marks doctrine’ (which upsc has not disclosed)..! That would be a disaster! I wake up everyday with this fear that my optional answer sheets will not be evaluated 😦
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@shreya
Yeah, the report talks about combined marks of english and gk. But see the ifs notification…upsc has clearly mentioned only PAPER 2 i.e gk
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@chandu…….are you sure that they are going to implement this rule from this year, or from next year……i havent read that notification, kindly elucidate…….
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@aristocrat
From this year. It has already been declared in the notification….a small paragraph on the front page!
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notification:
http://www.upsc.gov.in/exams/notifications/2012/ifs/eng.pdf
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@aristocrat
Please don’t be disheartened or dismayed by what i have said. this is a pure anticipation. also, i have explicitly mentioned the word ‘thorough’. a candidate with a thorough preparation could have attempted even the difficult questions whereas a candidate with a poor preparation could not have attempted even an easy question. since candidates are unaware of the difficulty level of various papers, they have to prepare thoroughly for all the papers(that is, they have to practice all sorts of questions, from the easiest to the toughest). an unprepared or poorly prepared candidate lacks self confidence and can make serious errors even in the simplest questions. so, it doesn’t matter if the papers are easy or moderately difficult, a well prepared candidate can fare far better marks than their(poorly prepared) counterparts. more than 50 percent of the candidates appearing for the exam generally do not prepare anything,so they are nowhere in the picture. out of the rest 50 percent candidates, more than 25 percent skips many portions of the syllabus(due to lack of time or non availability of study material or laziness or end moment preparation etc). since, upsc takes due care to ask questions from almost all portions of the syllabus, selective preparation at times can put a candidate at a great disadvantage.rest 25 percent (or even much lesser) are the ones who cover almost the entire syllabus(or atleast 85 to 90 percent of the syllabus). they are your real competition.these candidates too at times end up committing serious blunders in the examination such as poor time management( they don’t practice writing model answers during their preparation time and end up writing too much for a particular question in exam forgetting that they have a maximum time of three hours only and not the entire day!!!).these candidates don’t understand where to stop. in such circumstances, either they do not complete the entire paper on time or cannot do justice to the rest of the questions. this can make them feel distressed affecting their performance in the rest of the papers too!
i think the cut off will be in the range of 600-630(or even less than that). the number of selections from maths physics combo this year would be slightly high only, though the highest marks secured by a candidate can be much higher than the previous years. this analysis could even be wrong since candidates belonging to this combo generally have a poor gk. there is almost no overlapping with the gk syllabus. the vast syllabus of both the subjects eat most of their time and they prepare for gk at the end only. many of the candidates still are even not aware that a minimum qualifying marks is required in gk from this year otherwise their other 5 papers won’t be evaluated.
this happened because aspirants generally don’t bother to read the lengthy notification. they consider it useless or a waste of time. i also came to know about it just one month before the exam. i panicked a bit and devoted 20 days exclusively for gk preparation.i think the minimum qualifying marks this year for gk won’t exceed seventy.
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@prabith
That is the real problem. If everything goes well, i’m confident of scoring anything between 660-700. Pray for me that all my answer scripts shall be evaluated 🙂
UPSC is very cruel when it comes to fixing cutoff marks. It asks for 50% …i know it very well…right from NDA-upsc exam to CSE.
I don’t think it will be difficult for UPSC to pick up 230 candidates (for interview) amongst 50000 students, who have gk scores between 45-50% (i.e 135-150). I’m damn sure there are even more than 230 candidates who have their gk scores in this range.
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@Prabith…….Thanks for dispelling the fears………hope that your predictions will match with the realities……..:)
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@chandu……..u r unnecessarily creating a ballyhoo……..you have to cross a certain mark in GK and then overall performance will determine your rank……..
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You are correct Chandu. IFoS-2012 notification tells about the g.k. marks for setting the cut off limit. I have got g.k. marks of few selected candidates in IFoS-2011. They are as under:
Rank 5- 104
Rank 11- 131
Rank 23- 122
Rank 26- 132
Rank 37- 118
Rank 52- 89
Rank 84 (PC category)- 54
Considering a slight change in question pattern in g.k. this year, I hope the cut will come down a bit say below 100 for general category. What do you all think guys??
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@shreya……last year their was a 20 mark map question, 20marks from current events, 10 mark abbreviations, 10 mark sports terms, very easy history portion…..most of them wer either missing or weightage considerably decreased……so overall the scoring potential of this years Gk was much lesser compared to last year’s GK paper……..even IAS toppers score 200 to 250 out of 600……..given all these facts, i dont think the qualifying mark in GK will exceed the 100 mark……..
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@chandu
there has been a lot of discussion going on regarding the minimum qualifying marks in gk.as all of u may be aware that generally candidates refer previous years question papers to get an idea of the type of questions that are being asked in a particular subject.so, preparation is carried out keeping previous years papers as the base.let us analyse last year’s gk question paper and compare it with this year to get a clear idea of the picture.
let us divide gk into six main components such as geography(this includes map work with special stress on national parks,wildlife sancturies, biosphere reserves or biodiversity hotspots in india),polity(this includes indian constitution and indian political scenario),history(this includes various important places/terms or people from ancient,medieval or modern history which can be asked for 2 marks),economics(basic indian economy and it’s special features),general science and miscellanous(this includes science and technology,various development programmes by different ministries with special emphasis on ministry of environment and forests, development in the field of space(isro),defence(drdo),nuclear power(india’s nuclear energy programme),people in news(with special emphasis on people who receive different awards or brought laurels to the country),abbreviations,terms related to games and sports(or personalities related to different games and sports),author of books,explaining various terms related to general knowledge in short(the terms can be political,geographical,environmental,
economic,social or at times cultural or related to any other topic studied above),
few questions related to current events(matters of prime national or international importance may be asked,though the number of questions may be very low).
if i am leaving some topics, please add it to the list. analysis and comparison will be done in my next post.
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@chandu
sorry! i forgot to add about united nations and it’s specialized agencies(to be studied in detail),various aggrements signed by india with other countries(the aggrements can be trade related or regarding climate change),basic knowledge about india’s look east policy,TRIPS agreement,TRIMS,SAFTA,NAFTA and many other regional trading blocs affecting india’s economic relations with other countries(this area can be covered under economics or under current events or both).
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@chandu
also include developments in the field of information technology(IT), nanotech,biotech and basics of computers and robotics(very few questions have been asked from this area and have chances of being asked in the near future).
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@ aristocrat, shreya and prabith
It’s an old, hidden gut-feeling inside me which is igniting a pessimist out of me. To be frank, the gk paper was not ‘that’ difficult. Anyone with a general preparation would have found it simple, the only concern being the ‘time management’. Let’s have a question-wise look at this year’s gk paper.
Q.1 map work….with my ‘mediocre’ performance, i could mark 5 of them correctly. A better prepared candidate would at least mark 8 of them…for sure.
Q.2 a student with a firm grip on indian polity should hv had no problem in answering CAG and RTE, fetching 30-35 marks with ease.
Q.3 …a gold mine for geographers!…an easy 90 marker! Anyone with strong basics should hv performed ‘above average’ in this section. People like me, who lost the sense of ‘time management’ stumbled here and could not give justice to other questions.
Q.4 anyone with common sense and genuine knowledge of history can easily score 25-30 or even more in this question.
Q.5 and Q.6…..well prepared students always keep in touch with government policies and related issues. It’s not at all difficult to answer these questions in 100 and 40 words respectively!
Q.7 and Q. 8…..these science questions can be a weak area for everyone. But ‘intelligent’ and ‘smart’ students know how to ‘shoot from the hip..like an aussie cowboy’!
Q.9 i knew some of those personalities, but could not recall. I’m sure some students (at least 230/50000) would have done exceptionally well here.
So..in short, it’s not difficult to score 130-150 in gk with better preparation….and THERE ARE 230 such students in India…damn damn sure! Call me a pessimist or whatever (pessimist for myself and optimistic for others! 🙂 )
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There are 2 kinds of tests: (1) Screening tests and (2) Qualifying tests.
In case of screening tesst (e.g. UPSC Civil Service Pre), the total no. of students to be selected is pre decided. In that case the cut off is bound to be high.
On the other hand, in case of qualifying tests (e.g. CSIR-NET Pre/ARS-NET Pre), the cut off mark is pre decided and generally it is kept at lower side so as to ensure that maximum number of students can cross it.
In my judgement, UPSC should go for keeping g.k. mark as qualifying mark. Of course it is not difficult for UPSC to select 230 top scoring g.k. papers who will get in the range of 130-150. But, what is the guarantee that they are the top 230 students with highest scoring marks in all the 4 subjects taken together?? After all, it is the total marks of all 4 subjects which will decide whether we shall get call for interview or not.
Friends, I am not an optimist… I am just sharing my thoughts with you all…Let me know your views…
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@chandu
what u say seems to be highly impossible.if all answer sheets of only those 170 candidates(85*2 ,that is double the number of posts) who obtained the highest marks in gk is to be evaluated, then nobody should have prepared for the other two optional subjects(not even english!!!). all can spend the entire year by studying gk only(it would have been very easy for us then!!!). this is because the number of candidates that qualify for the personality test is double the number of posts available, therefore their probability of becoming an ifos officer is 50 percent. if their personality test too goes smoothly(or even if it does not go smoothly as these people may not have any idea about their optional subjects,they may be awarded low marks. still not to worry as all the 170 candidates are sailing on the same boat and all are equally dumb!!!). this becomes a boon for everyone as everybody will be awarded very low marks in the personality test. the maximum marks to be awarded will be 50(that also if the board is lenient).the aspirant who gets 50 marks would feel that he is the brightest amongst the dumbest!!!. so, gk marks become the sole deciding factor whether a candidate will become an ifos officer or not!!!.if such a candidate becomes an ifos officer (so easily!!!), then let god save our country.this will make a mockery of upsc and the entire examination system.
this may seem a bit funny but i hope u understood my main motive behind saying this !!!.
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@Prabith…….i second your view point……i think we are unneccarily blowing the issue……let the results come out, everything will become crystal clear………according to me if you have cleared the holy 100 mark in GK, you need not to worry……for OBC and other categories the qualifying level will be even lower than that…….why to die a death before being ordered to die,…….in UPSC exams failures are inevitable……Lets prepare for the worst, but hope for the best,….. 🙂
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@prabith and shreya
Generally, 220-230 candidates are called for the interview every year. But this year is a special one, for it involves li’l different statistics.
Earlier, upsc used to evaluate every answer script off all candidates and then draw top 230 for the interview. This was a tedious job coz of its bulkyness. It had an advantage too. Each paper contributed to the score!
But now, the situation is not so straight forward. There are two aspects/stages in this year’s exam:
1. The ultimate aim of upsc is to reduce the load of answer scripts by screening-out candidates with low gk scores (irrespective of scores in other papers). Here, candidates with low scores in gk will be screened-out even if they have high scores in other papers and candidates having a better score in gk will be screened-in even if they have performed poor in other papers (so, it doesn’t matter whether thsese screened-in candidates are top performing candidates or not. Because, the idea is to filter out candidates).
2.now, say, upsc screens-in 1000 such candidates. The competition will be resumed between these screened-in candidates. Here, the scores of other papers will come into picture. There is every possibility that the overall merit will be low at this stage. Top performing 230 candidates will be called for the interview (however low their scores be!)
So, the idea here is to select those candidates who have done better in both gk and other papers. Aren’t there 230 such candidates all over India? I think there are! And then there is reservation system too!
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@aristocrat
Yeah, i agree…there is no use in discussing these things. Let’s study. That is what must do.
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@chandu…….for mains, usually UPSC selects 10 times the no. Of seats, and then on based on overall performance, it calls candidates for interview 3 times the no. Of posts……here they can select 850 candidates on the basis of ther performance in GK, after checking all ther answer sheets, it can call 240 for interview……i think that will be a standard way it can justify……rest the time and results will decide……it is just an attempt to alley your fears @chandu 🙂
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whatever….! With only 850 candidates, Upsc should now declare the results little earlier..isn’t it?
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@chandu……things are beyond our control……..usually they keep very less gap between IAS mains and IFoS results, since interview boards remain same for both…….and first of all they have to check 50,000 GK answer sheets…….be cool dear…….whats in our destiny, we will get it even if it is between two mountains, and what isnt in our destiny we cant get it even if it is inbetween our two lips……just chill yaar 🙂
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my mind just cannot stop thinking.
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if upsc has 100 evaluators and each one of them evaluates 100 papers a day, then 50000 papers would take 5 days! No worries even if there are 100000 papers (10 days). Taking ‘Indian mentality’ into consideration, let’s increase the duration to 1 month. For 850×5=4250 remaining papers, let’s take another month. For other works such as tallying and decisions, let us consider one more month. It adds up to 3 months. Results should be declared by Nov. end.
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@chandu……they have clearly mentioned it in the notification that the result will be declared after 24th of december 2012, or in january 2013…….
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@chandu,aristocrat and shreya
this type of discussion seems to have no end.this will only help in increasing our stress levels rather than concluding an answer!!!.nevertheless, even if our exams had gone off very well(in all the subjects) and we may have qualified for the personality test,still on the safer side we might have prepared and revised whatever we studied for the next year’s ifos exam. so it’s better to prepare for the next year’s exam once again with full momentum with special emphasis on gk this time.preparation for the personality test should definitely be done along with the gk preparation since u never know what destiny has in store for u. upsc always does something which is least expected by the students. may be it follows the proverb “the unexpected always happens”!!!.
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Is this true that gk paper has a cut off from this year ?
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@priya
Yeah..it’s an eerie truth of this year. If you don’t mind, may i know how much did u expect to score last year…?? How much is the difference between ‘our expectation’ and ‘evaluator’s mercy’?? I just wanted to know the extent of liberal evaluation.
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@chandu last year i didnt calculate an expected score mainly bcs i hadnt prepared much , got 541 marks .. irony is this year even after preparing , exam appeared more difficult , and on calculating i am getting below 550 !if the weightage pattern is changed we cant predict anything ..also we can expect a diff interview pattern too involving GD .. i think it s better to start preparing for the next as this year seems to b a narrow chance.
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@priya
Never mind. Things often change when upsc is concerned! Everyone is expecting in the same range…even those who hv been preparing exclusively for ifos since 3-4 yrs. After seeing their condition, i’hv also scaled down my expectations! 🙂
jaane kab aaega woh din!
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@Priya…..you are not the only contender to face the irony…….i think it was same for all…….barring those having physics and Mathematics, who claim to have had relatively less difficult question papers……..i think last year cut off for interview was around 590……..provided the relatively less scoring potential of this years GK, it will come down by atleast 20 marks……it may be noted that although GK paper was not difficult but the questions like sports terms, names of books 10 mark abbreviations, 20 mark national park, sanctuary names etc, which could fetch marks on mathematical lines were absent, and in theoretical question you can not score more than 70 %………then absence of agri-forestry combi. Will reduce the competition by atleast 20 marks………no choice in compulsory questions and relatively difficult questions asked in zoology and vet. Will decrease the score by another 20 marks atleast…..cut off in GK can remove many serious students that had exceptionally done well in optionals, bringing cut off down by another 10 marks……so chances are that there may be a cut off lesser by 50-70 marks than last year………i may be completely wrong, and we may expect a cut off much higher than last year, because we never know how many well prepared candidates are appearing……but nevertheless we must never give hope…….
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i hv one doubt regarding reservation system. Now it is quite sure that about 850 candidates will be screened-in after evaluation of gk papers. Will this reservation system apply here too? If yes, how? I have formed a crude picture as per my understanding. Correct me if i am wrong:
OBC = 27% = 230 candidates
SC = 15% = 128 candidates
ST = 7% = 60 candidates
GENERAL = 432 candidates
(there are PH candidates also. But let’s ignore them at this moment)
After evaluating say 50000 gk papers, top 432 candidates will be screened-in irrespective of whether they are obc, sc, st or general. This would constitute general quota. Obc, sc, st candidates coming in this merit shall be considered as general. The marks of 432nd candidate will be cutoff marks for general merit.
Now, remaining top performing 230 obc candidates will be screened-in. Marks of 230th candidate will be cutoff marks for obc. Here, respective percentage of minority obc candidates shall also be maintained.
Likewise, 128 sc and 60 st candidates will be selected.
Is this statistics correct?
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@chandu…..they have nowhere mentioned the ten times ratio for fixing the GK cut off……they can select more than 850, but commonsense says it will never be less than 850……yes they have to select as per the quotas to be filled as they do it in CSE, otherwise they cant meet their obligations…….they percentages you mentioned should have been in same order, but unfortunately last years finals selection list they mentioned that out of 85 there are 33 OBS, 14 sc, 6 ST 3 PH…….means ther wer just 24 general category……so it should be 240……. May be i am wrong…..
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Sorry, it is 29, which translates into 290 students
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@aristocrat
it is true that ’10x’ rule is nowhere written, but conventions which upsc has been following since many years speaks about the same. Forget about the ‘number’…i’m concerned abt the procedure…is the procedure mentioned by me right??
The excess obc candidates which u r talking abt may hv gotten their seat in general category…….who knows
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@chandu……yes, i think u r right…..
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@aristocrat
why do u feel that maths and physics papers were the easiest amongst all the other subjects? why will upsc dilute the prestige of the service by making very easy question papers in certain subjects? after all, upsc is known for making difficult question papers only and not easy!!! almost all the exams conducted by upsc are considered quite tough such as nda,cds,ies, civil services and many more!!!. after all u too have mentioned in one of ur earlier posts that all optional subjects are equally scoring and equally difficult.
let me take the example of maths. there are 13 units in all(paper 1 and paper 2). the word unit may be slightly misleading because one unit in maths is equivalent to a full fledged subject. most of the units require more than one book(some units require atleast 3 books). so, the minimum number of books to be referred for maths preparation exceeds 20.if all these books are not referred, it is not impossible to cover the entire upsc syllabus. almost all the questions asked in the question papers are from these standard books only, that also from the solved examples. this doesn’t make the task easy for the students at all. practicing from these standard books is a tedious task. a single problem has to be practiced thrice to gain speed and accuracy(since inaccurate answers are awarded a zero in this paper). most of these standard books are unavailable in the local market. it is not possible for every person to go to delhi to buy these books. though many books can be purchased through flipkart, still few books always remain unavailable or are out of stock.it is imperative to purchase all these books because generally upsc gives credit to those aspirants only who write the solution in exactly the same way as mentioned in these standard books. solution steps copied from a cheap guide and reproduced during the exam doesn’t fetch marks or fetch very low marks. it’s a fact.
same is the case with physics. at least 15 books are also required to be referred in this subject to complete the entire physics ifos syllabus. here also, most of the questions(factual and numericals)are asked from these books only(though their availability again poses a problem for many like maths).it took me more than 3 months to arrange all these books!!!
so my question is-how many students purchase all these books from the market(or where ever it is available) and study? remember these books have no substitutes(if
u refer some other books which upsc doesn’t prefer for searching answers or recommend, u are in great trouble!!!).normally, students preparing for ifos with maths and physics as optionals does not do such intense preparation in these subjects unless they are preparing for civil services with the same optionals.if they refer all these books and prepare, they top not only in ifos but in civil services as well. the top 20 or top 40 rankers in ifos( having physics and maths as optionals)are selected in civil services as well with the same optionals. this is the main reason why maths physics combo has a very low success rate every year in ifos. i felt the paper was easy because i had all the relevant books. many might have felt the paper to be very tough(who didn’t purchase the required books). also completing all these books atleast require one
full year and gk and english requires another four months. so the time reqired for complete preparation is nearly 1.5 years(u cannot complete the syllabus in haste, if u do so, the whole effort becomes a waste).so, this only signifies that the success rate of maths physics combo will always remain much lower as compared to biology allied subjects.
so,aristocrat, ur main competition will only be from those students who have taken ur same optionals. biology allied students will always dominate ifos rather than engineers!!!.
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Hi everyone. I have started preparing for the IFS exam this year. My subjects are Botany & Zoology. Is anyone interested in group studies? I live in Rohini. Anyone interested should mail me @- gauravyav@gmail.com.
Thanks & best of Luck!
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@Brother Prabith……kindly let me know where i have mentioned that “physics maths papers where easiest among all” …..i said they where RELATIVELY LESS DIFFICULT……i meant to say in relation to last years Exam the level of difficulty was less……means may be you people were facing more harsh treatment from UPSC, but this year they have provided you some respite……you have urself mentioned that “i think this year more students from physics maths combo will make it to the selection list”…….similarly, may be zoology and Vet students where having relatively easier patterns, and this year they level it to other subjects…….i have no grudge against engineers…..i stick to my point that ther are no marks fetching subjects but marks fetching candidates………let me Quote PrakashRaj Purohit (CSE 2009, AIR-2) “Science subjects either take you to the top, or leave you nowhere’…….may be this time the lady luck has come and smiled at you, and the system became less unfavourable to those optionals…….. 🙂
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@ all
It’s getting on my nerves now
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we dnt need to crack our nerves now i think ..the results r still far away ..4-5 months are there bfre us , as per discussions what i understood is they will first filter people based on GK & then based on aggregate marks & aptitude for ifs , so we better continue wt our efforts be it for interview /next year exam . last year the results came in jan & the next notification on feb ..so we wnt have time for frustration …
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‘next year’…..these words give me a fright.
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@chandu Dnt worry ..hope for the best ..if u had put in efforts surely it wll count ..
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there is going to be more than 290 gen candidates scoring gk cut off ..will they go wt aggregate marks in that case ?
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If an obc/sc/st candidate is a top scorer and ranks within 290, he/she will be treated as general candidate. Thus, a gen candidate can compete for 50% seats, an obc candidate for 77% seats, sc candidate for 65% and st candidate for 57% seats.
after screening-in candidates for gk, candidates will be further filtered based on aggregate marks.
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Can anyone of you pls upload th IFOS 2012 GS paper as it is still unavailable on UPSC website.
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@prabhith can you pls mention the names of the books tht u followed for maths an d physics for both papers.also how long did u prepare specifically for IFOS exam?pls reply
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@raj
don’t worry. this year’s ifos question papers of all subjects will be uploaded in the upsc website within the month of september. generally, upsc uploads question papers of various exams (conducted by it) two months after the completion of the respective exam. since, ifos exam was held in july, therefore the question papers will be uploaded in the 2nd or 3rd week of september, not beyond that. be patient.refer previous years general english, gk and optional papers(till the year 2011) for the time being.
i am very happy to see that somebody is intending to take maths and physics as optional subjects for ifos. this was my first attempt for ifos exam. i completed my engineering in electronics and telecommunication last year in the month of june.
this year my optional papers went off quite well. i feel that i will definitely qualify for personality test this time, but since my gk paper did go as well as i expected, i am slightly nervous. from this year, a minimum qualifying marks is required to be obtained in gk otherwise our other 5 papers won’t be evaluated. nobody was aware
of this, until upsc ifos 2012 notification came out in the third week of april. i neglected gk from the very beginning and thought of completely it at the end( since i didn’t know that upsc will fix a minimum qualifying marks for gk from this year). when i came to know about it, i panicked a bit and started preparing for gk seriously but it was too late then. gk preparation should be intense and requires a lot of time to score high marks( generally above 160+) in this subject. though i had purchased all the relevant books for gk, i was neither able to refer all of them nor able to study them thoroughly due to lack of time. now, i understand this and regret my folly.
nevertheless, i am preparing for next year ifos exam with special stress on gk this time. i have already completed my optional subjects preparation and just revising them again and again to gain clarity of concepts. since, next year’s exam are far away, i am slowly and gradually preparing for gk with all the relevant books which i have purchased making miniature notes out of them. i am no more in a hurry to finish the syllabus!!!.
even if i qualify for ifos this year itself, still not a problem. extra knowledge gained is never useless and will only broaden my outlook towards life. i will definitely give the names of all the relevant books for physics,maths and gk (which i am referring for my preparation) with few tips in my next post. please give me some time. i will post it till tomorrow. anyhow, start for ur gk preparation from today itself( devote atleast 1 hour exclusively for gk everyday) and don’t waste even a single minute. 1 year will pass like a blink of an eye!!!. anyways,best of luck!!!
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Nice to see you guys not getting disheartened! I myself got thru in my second attempt. And believe me, there is hell lot of difference in your preparation which comes about in one year. Keep working hard, with single-minded devotion and God willing, you all will get thru. It’s not a very tough examination!
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Thank you so much sir for motivating us…
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thanks prabhith for the advice.
i know UPSC wud upload the question papers after some time,but i wanted to look at it now in order to check the questions asked this year.i know UPSC alwas varies the trend,but jst wanna have a look up at the questions on unconventional topics like abbreviations,sports,places and person in news,mappointing.
if anybody can take even the pic of the question paper and upload it somewhere and provide the links,then that wud be of great help.
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@raj
i understand that u are eager to know the pattern of gk paper this year. i can’t upload the paper as such but reproduce the entire paper here in short. there was a change in gk’s paper pattern this year which u will find when u read the paper
1. map work(mark the locations) 1*10=10
(a) major manganese producing state
(b)kudankulam
(c)cape ramos
(d)wular lake
(e)kirandul
(f)kawal wildlife sanctuary
(g)chittorgarh
(h)bellary
(i) munabao
(j) kaimur range
2. answer any two(200 words) 20*2=40
(a) examine role of comptroller and auditor general of india
(b) discuss scope of right to education act.
(c) salient recommendations of 13th finance commission
3. answer any six(150 words) 15*6=90
(a) (1) three environmental effects of earth’s rotation (8)
(2) describe how tilt of earth’s axis is responsible for seasons (7)
(b)what are sand dunes? discuss its different types.
(c) what are badlands and conditions required for their formation.
(d) ‘solid wastes generation has become a serious urban environmental hazard’.
substantiate
(e) discuss scope of water-harvesting and highlight various water- harvesting
methods.
(f) what is biodiversity? how human activities in recent decades affected it?
(g) what is El Nino? bring it’s significance in indian context.
4. answer any three(150 words) 15*3=45
(a) india’s cultural contacts with outside world during ancient times.
(b) the medieval bhakti movement and its major strands.
(c) highlights of buddhist art and architecture in india.
(d) role of british imperial power under churchill in complicating india’s
independence issue in the 1940s.
5. critical notes on any three(100 words) 10*3=30
(a) national programme for prevention and control of deafness(NPPCD).
(b) activities of the water quality assessment authority of central government’s ministry of environment and forests.
(c) composition and functions of central zoo authority.
(d) concept of sustainable development as brought out at rio conference.
6. short notes on 40 words each(any five) 5*5=25
(a) distinction between ‘maharatna’, ‘navratna’ and ‘maniratna’ central public sector
enterprises.
(b) the national green tribunal.
(c) ‘ujjawala’ scheme of ministry of women and child development.
(d) formation of special tiger protection force.
(e) principal gallantry awards in india for courageous acts performed during war and peacetime
(f) intensification of forest management scheme(IFMS).
7. critically comment in 100 words(any three) 10*3=30
(a) ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ G-forces and their effects on human body.
(b) the three planned stages of india’s nuclear power programme and the present status.
(c) different biometric devices and their salient applications.
(d) ‘open source’ software – its concept, illustrative examples, advantages and limitations.
8. short notes in about 40 words(any two) 5*2=10
(a) NASA’s kepler mission and its recent achievement.
(b) environmental effects of deep-sea trawling.
(c) types of radio-tracking of animals.
9. (a) who are the following and why they were in news recently(answer in one or two sentences each). 2*5=10
(1) tessy thomas
(2) mitt romney
(3) saadat hasan manto
(4) salva kiir mayardit
(5) cristina elisabet fernandez
(b) with which game/sport are following people associated? 1*5=5
(1) mamata pujari
(2) ramakant achrekar
(3) usain bolt
(4) master chandgi ram
(5) deepika kumari
(c) abbreviations 1*5=5
(1) UNFCCC
(2) GSLV
(3) TIFAC
(4) FIPB
(5) ICFRE
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@raj
i hope ur purpose is solved and u can wait for the question papers of optional subjects till they are uploaded on the upsc website.
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thanks a ton prabhit…really apprecite the trouble u took to post the questions…n yes my anxiety to see the questions has been put to rest,thnks to u.pls advice me how to go bout mathemtics…i hv seen the questions this yer nd saw a marked change in pattern where mixing of questions in sections which were earlier purely from a singe topic,nw even ODE was mixed with other questions…already the syllabus was so hard to comprehend,doesnot understand why UPSC is always after pure science optional,when all other options contins questions tht just require rote learning(which i really detest ).And people who see maths and science optionals as easy r realy dumb or they just don’t have any idea about wot they r talking about.coz i fee it’s the toughest optional which rewards only a select few who really give it their al in the subjects.I don’t intend to offend anyone but i didn’t like the comment where someone said tht all one has to do is to solve a maths question to get marks,if ur perspective is tht my friend then all u too have to do is to just write the answer to the question asked….wots the difference??
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it was not troublesome for me at all. my typing speed is quite fast!!!. dear friend, why do u worry about what others say? the person who commented this may not have done it deliberately. generally, biology allied students are unaware of the intricacies linked with physics and maths since they don’t have much knowledge about these subjects because of their background. similarly, we may also feel that biology allied subjects such as botany, agriculture, zoology etc are easy since we too don’t know much about these subjects. after all, all 14 offered subjects belong to the science stream only and not social sciences!!!. that’s why only science graduates are eligible to write ifos exam. why do u feel that maths and physics are the toughest subjects( to crack) and the rest all subjects are of moderate difficulty or are easy. this is a myth!!!.
we may feel that our own subjects(in which we did our graduation or engineering) is more difficult as compared to other subjects only because we have a base in the subject, that is, we know the boundaries of the subject and the sub-topics linked to a particular topic. for example- take the example of amplifiers( mentioned in physics syllabus under the topic electronics). a biology allied student if reads this topic may feel that “oh!!!, this is so easy”. he may think that he has to study only – what is an amplifier and it’s basic working principle. but a student having a base in physics is well aware that the topic is much more wider. he knows that amplifiers are of many types such as differential, operational, feedback and power. these types of amplifiers also have many subtypes. so, many questions can be framed from this area of syllabus such as – block diagram of an amplifier, basic functioning of various types of amplifers, drawing circuit diagrams of them, derieving expressions for gain, associated numerical problems and many more. so, even though not mentioned explicitly in the syllabus, these topics are expected to be studied and can be asked in the exam. mere reading of the topic- “what is an amplifier” is useless and will yield no result.
i agree that there is almost no overlap of these subjects( physics and maths) in areas of gk but overlapping helps to a certain extent only. don’t be under such a notion that certain subjects such as geology, forestry or agriculture has a short syllabus and are easy to understand and highly scoring compared to physics, maths or chemistry. syllabus of these so called easy subjects only provides a outline of the topics that are to be studied. there may be many sub-topics linked to the main topic that may not be mentioned in the syllabus. pure theoretical subjects(especially biology allied subjects) demands a lot of efforts regarding presentation to score good marks, otherwise these subjects too are awared very low marks.
for example- a question comes like this- ” write a short note on transgenic plants”.
this question can be asked under gk and students opting botany or agriculture as optional subjects also study it. if this question comes under gk, then u may explain what is a transgenic plant, it’s importance, few examples and 2 or 3 applications. this answer is more than enough in gk and a candidate can expect full marks. so, much elaboration of the answer is not required.
but, if the same question is asked under agriculture or botany, then this answer is not at all enough. students have to go in much more detail explaining the dna recombinant technique( how genes of bacillus thuringienesis is incorporated in the plant), advantages, disadvantages, ethical concerns, current development of transgenic plants in india, agricultural applications, flowcharts, illustrative diagrams etc. students have to explain all these areas since they have no idea that which area the paper checker is expecting in more detail. so, there is always an ambiguity in minds of the aspirants of how much to write for a particular answer in these subjects, since answers can have many dimensions and it is difficult for the students to include all these parameters in their answers. if they miss a particular dimension which the examiner was expecting, then this may led to a deduction of marks. even after writing the entire answer beautifully( within the time limit), still full marks are never awarded. also, it is not possible for all the students to write each answer of the question paper in such an elaborated manner(due to time constraints). they may even be not knowing a few questions since some very tough questions are also asked every year. (to be continued….)
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expect major changes in interview pattern!
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@Prabith……..I appreciate your suave efforts in adding value to this valuable forum……you are going good brother……keep it up…….God Bless you !
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@all
I hv few points:
1. Mathematics has always been my ‘battle of waterloo’. Nevertheless, my statement about mathematics was a ‘generalised’ one…u may take it as a ‘statement made by a layman’. Well..if i am ‘dumb’ enough to say that, u r not clever enough to understand the statements of a lay person.
2. Agriculture/forestry/any biological science subject is not short and easy. In fact, no subject can be called easy and short. Agriculture is like an ocean. You think of any subject existing under the sky, Agriculture is bound to be associated with it. So, we have agri.economics, agri.maths, agri.stats, agri.physics, agri.engineering, agri.soil science, agronomy, extension education, agri.botany, agri.zoology, entomology, plant pathology, plant breeding, plant genetics, agri.biotech, horticulture, floriculture, agri.microbiology, agronomy, agri. Home science,seed technology, agri business management….the list goes on…coz it is an applied science, unlike maths which is purely fundamental (as per my understanding)
And mind it, each sub-subject mentioned above is equally huge. Completing the syllabus is a big task.
To sum up, mathematics student is like ARJUNA and biological science student is like YUDHISHTHIRA.
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(continued from previous post)
so, u can see that every subject has certain loopholes which nobody can ignore. the advantage of overlapping of these subjects with the gk syllabus is limited. i don’t say that maths-physics combo is easy but not too difficult either!!!.
i feel physics is the best optional for engineering graduates of electrical/electronics branch. many topics such as lasers, fibre optics, electrostatics and magnetostatics, current electricity, electromagnetic theory,analog and digital electronics, certain areas of statistical physics which these engineers study during their b.tech are common in physics. many other interlinked topics are also present. this is the main reason why some people call physics as the younger brother of electrical/electronics engineering.
the best thing about this subject is that engineers can easily tune to this subject. the syllabus only seems vast because it is well defined. for example- take the topic of lasers under modern optics. the syllabus states – ruby and helium neon lasers. this means that aspirants are expected to study these two types of lasers only even though they might have studied many other types of lasers during their engineering/graduation such as carbon-dioxide lasers, nd-yag lasers etc. if the syllabus only mentioned lasers without specifying which type of laser, then students would have to prepare for all types of lasers which would have been tedious. since, sub-topics are also mentioned along with the main topics, the physics syllabus seems vast, even though it is not!!!. so, it is rightly said -“appearances are often deceptive”.
not only the syllabus, answers corresponding to the physics question papers are also well defined. confused!!!. let’s take an example – this year a question came in paper 1 of physics in section- A (under the topic optics) ” explain the fraunhofer diffraction at a single slit and obtain condition for minima. also, derieve expression for resolving power of a grating”. the answer to this question can be easily given by anybody who has studied the syllabus well. here, candidates need to draw a ray diagram explaining fraunhofer single slit diffraction and obtain the minima condition
b sin(theta) = m(lambda). also, derivation of resolving power of a grating needs to be done as given in any standard book. this answer is very well explained in standard book of optics written by ajoy ghatak. if students too have would have written the answer in the same way, they can expect full marks. this shows, there is no ambiguity in the minds of the examiner or the examinee regarding the answer to this specific question. answers in physics (which includes numericals) are clear cut and direct unlike subjects such as botany or agriculture where too much elaboration of the answers is required, still full marks are never given. in physics, since answers are well defined, the examinee cannot write anything extra and examiner cannot expect anything more!!!. so, even if u attempt 150 marks paper in physics correctly( strictly attempting the answers as given in standard books), u can expect 140+ in this paper, where as u may attempt 200 marks in agriculture paper but may not even get 100 due to poor quality answers or due to poor presentation, lack of diagrams, lack of current events orientation etc.
so u see, the slightly difficult subjects are more scoring than slightly easy subjects!!! (to be continued…….)
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If anybody needs IFS Forestry, IFS Chemistry notes on reasonable rates,may contact me at
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19 Aug 2012 8:50 A.M.
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james where are u living now ???
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@raj
(continued from previous post)
same is the case with maths. more than 60% of maths syllabus is already covered in engineering, other remaining topics are of the master’s level( which is the case with most of the subjects). the syllabus of this subject too is well defined and a definite answer to all the questions can be given. i agree that this year intermixing of units have taken place in the first paper, but still u could have attemped the paper well. the syllabus of maths paper 1 and paper 2 are divided into two sections- section A and section B. questions from section A are never asked in section B. so, if u prepare for one section thoroughly, then u can attempt atleast 120 marks questions and intermixing of questions in that section will not bother u.
it’s better to attempt three questions from section A of paper 1 since questions are more predictable here. linear algebra is the easiest unit of paper 1, so it should be thoroughly studied. calculus too is easy but this area is slightly lengthy. u should prepare this area well, since this area is linked to ordinary differential equations and vector calculus in the first paper and many other units in the second paper. so, thorough knowledge of calculus is a must. leaving this unit may be disastrous and can seriously affect ur preparation for the interlinked units. analytic geometry can be very well prepared from standard book of shanti narayan( s chand publications). since, calculus has to be compulsorily studied and linear algebra is easy, so it’s better to attempt 120 marks from section A. the rest 80 marks has to be attempted from section B – one compulsory and one more.
section B consists of ordinary differential equations, vector calculus and statics, dynamics and hydrostatics. ODE is a simple area and can be well prepared from standard book of M.D Raisinghania. only study the topics strictly mentioned in the syllabus. each and every question is asked from this book only under ODE. vector calculus is again a simple area and concept of gradient, divergence and curl is used in physics as well under the topic electricity and magnetism and electromagnetic theory. So, if u prepare for two units thoroughly in section B, you can attempt at least 50+ marks questions. so, overall u can attempt 170+ marks questions in paper 1.
statics,dynamics and hydrostatics can be well prepared from krishna series books written by vasistha. all questions are asked from this book only. but studying these books takes time. if u don’t have sufficient time, atleast solve all the questions asked from this area from previous 10 to 12 years ifos and civil services papers, since few questions are repeated every year. this year too few questions were repeated.
so, even if u attempt 150 marks paper correctly, u can expect 140+ marks in paper 1 which is quite high and such marks are obtained by toppers. (to be continued…..)
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@chandu i didn’t intend to be critical about any subject or get personal with comments that evoke arguement and after self retrospect i feel i shudn’t have used the word “dumb”,and i regret it.i was calling ur idea as dumb and not u in person.but lets not make such a beautiful forum to argue here and face the truth here that syllabus of every optional is huge in it’s own right and requires vigorous preparation(i never said that any other optional is easy,and i still maintain that the amount of books you have to refer for say maths and physics would surely exceed any other optional).i wish best of luck to each and every person who has given the exam this year.no hard feelings.
@chandu do u use those expressions “battle of waterloo” kinda in ur essays..is it a good idea to use idioms and phrases in essays??jst wanna know
@prabith thanks for the exhaustive analysis..looking forward to read ur (to be continued…)parts:).Can u tell me how much time u took to prepare maths optional and what shud be the strategy …shud it be like starting two topics at a time or just go at slow pace with one at a time..won’t one be hard pressed for time if one goes with one at a time strategy?…particularly when one requires to revise and revisit problems again and again.
I wud also like to know about how u tamed the mysterical modern algebra..still sounds as some code language to me.also did u do the full solid geometry??or only for compulsory part?
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@raj
(continued from previous post)
the syllabus of maths paper 2 is comparatively lengthier as compared to paper 1, but is as highly scoring as the first paper. section A deals with modern algebra, real analysis, complex analysis and linear programming. section B deals with PDE, numerical analysis and computer programming and mechanics and fluid dynamics. here, ur strategy should be to attempt 3 questions from section B and 2 questions from section A. this is because questions asked in section B are more predictable.
so, let us discuss the preparation of section B first.
partial differential equations is the easiest unit of section B. The book u referred for ODE is to be consulted for PDE as well, since M.D raisinghania covers both of them. the language of the book is awesome. Also study reduction of PDE into cannonical form, since this question has been asked in previous years (IFS -2011), even though not mentioned explicitly in the syllabus. equations of vibrating string, heat equation and laplace equation and their solutions may seem tough due to their length but praticing them regularly will help in handling them with ease.
for numerical methods, study all the techniques mentioned in the syllabus since every year at least 3 to 4 methods are definitely asked. also, study the derivations of all these methods since derivations of few of them have been asked in the previous years. for solution of system of linear equations by indirect(iterative) method, study gauss- jacobi method of iteration also, even though not mentioned in the syllabus( this method was asked in ifs 2011). also prepare for newton’s divided difference formula apart from newton’s forward and backward interpolation formula.
(this question was asked in cse 2005). for numerical integration, study all the word problems that can come under simpson’s 1/3rd rule, trapezoidal rule and gaussian quadrature formula. this year, they asked an application based problem to determine the area of cross section of a river( this problem could be easily solved using simpson’s 1/3rd rule. u can also apply simpson’s 3/8th rule also, but it is not in the syllabus). for numerical solutiions of ordinary differential equations, study modified euler’s method along with euler’s method and runge’s method along with runge kutta method. modified euler’s method was asked this year too and also in ifs 2003. (to be continued …….)
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(continued from previous post)
don’t think knowing a method is sufficient to solve a problem. practice as many problems as possible from previous years CSE and IFS papers from year 2012 till 2000.
the topic of computer programming which includes different number systems, algebra of binary numbers, boolean algebra, logic gates and truth tables, signed and unsigned magnitute representation of numbers, 1’s and 2’s complement, 9’s and 10’s complement, duality etc. can be prepared from any digital electronics book which u may be referring for physics as well under the topic of electronics. also study algorithms, flowcharts and BASIC program for all the numerical methods which u have covered above. study them compulsorily since every year at least 1 or 2 questions are asked from this area for which u can give a readymade answer.
this year in section-B, under the compulsory question, a computer program was asked to implement the trapezoidal rule to evaluate an integral. the same question without any modification was asked in ifs 2003 as well. another question asked this year was to draw a flowchart for interpolation using newton’s forward difference formula which was again a very easy question which was expected. all algorithms, flowcharts and C programming of numerical methods can be very well covered by book written by raja raman. the book is simple to read and understand and covers all numerical methods. also try to get a basic clarity of how to write a C program since few questions which which test C program fundamentals are also asked such as – using BASIC program to find the factorial of a given number, to determine whether a number is even or odd or prime etc. this year five questions were asked from the unit of numerical methods and computer programming ( there are instances when 6 to 7 questions were asked from this unit). the compulsory question included lagrange’s interpolation and trapezoidal rule both of which were easy. the optional questions under this unit were from simpson’s 1/3rd rule(an application based problem), newton’s forward difference formula and modified euler’s method. these three questions too were also simple and highly scoring. so, u should not miss attempting a question from this area.
mechanics can be very well prepared from the krishna series books of rigid dynamics(volume 1 and 2). all the topics covered under mechanics such as degrees of freedom and constraints, holonomic and non- holonomic systems, D- alembert’s principle, lagrange’s and hamilton’s equations, moment of inertia, motion of rigid bodies overlaps with the unit of classical mechanics covered under physics.
some questions from krishna series books( rigid dynamics) is asked in physics as well due to common syllabus. since, mechanics is helpful for both the subjects and students with physics as the second optional already cover it, so it is easy to cover this area under maths as well and should be done. since, concepts of maths and physics are inter-linked, therefore generally students take this combo rather than chemistry-maths or physics-chemistry.
the topic of fluid dynamics can be completed by referring the standard book of M.D raisinghania (named as fluid dynamics by M.D raisinghania). the book may seem
huge, but u are required to study the topics mentioned in the syllabus only. nowadays, most of the questions asked from this area are repetitive. even studying previous 12 years question papers of ifs and cse from this area seems enough. this year 2 questions were asked from this area, one compulsory which was repeated from ifs 2010 paper. another optional question was also repeated from ifs 2002 paper. so, both the questions asked from this topic was repeated from previous years. all this shows, it is beneficial to attempt three questions from section B. (to be continued……..)
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(continued from previous post)
let’s discuss about section-A of paper 2 now. the unit of modern algebra seems like a puzzle for many since this unit is not covered in engineering. but things seem mysterious only when we don’t know anything about it. once the secret code of modern algebra is deciphered, it will also seem easy like the rest of the units. it is better to study this unit from krishna series books written by vasistha. this book is enough for gaining conceptual clarity of topics. all the chapters of this book are arranged in a sequential order and the book will take the reader to a tour of modern algreba and the reader can appreciate it’s basic concepts and real life applications. modern algebra written by khanna and bhambri can also be referred for in-depth understanding of concepts provided u have sufficient time. also, prepare for cyclic groups in group theory, even though not mentioned in the syllabus. also, study integral domains along with principal ideal domains, unique factorization domains and euclidean domains, since questions have been asked from integral domains even though this topic is not mentioned in the syllabus. also, read about subrings and homomorphism of rings. study all the relevant theorems and their proofs as asked in the previous years. mostly, questions from modern algebra are rarely repeated and a good presentation of answers is required to score good marks. don’t spend too much time in this area and attempt questions from this unit only when u are sure of the final answer. sometimes, complicated questions are also asked but still preparation of this unit should be done to a basic level only since u have to attempt only two questions from section A.
the concepts of real analysis and calculus are overlapping, so one should definitely prepare for this course. the topics of real numbers, continuity, differentiability, partial derivatives, reimann’s integral, improper integrals, maxima and minima, multiple integrals (which includes double and triple integrals) are already covered in calculus of paper 1 which u have thoroughly studied and just revision of these topics needs to be done in real analysis. the remaining topics related to uniform continuity of functions, cauchy sequence, limit of a sequence, series and its convergence (which includes uniform, absolute and conditional convergence of sequences and series), rearrangement of series etc should be covered in depth from the krishna series books on real analysis. study all the tests which is used to determine whether a given series is convergent or divergent.
complex analysis is again an easy area. study all the topics mentioned in the syllabus. solve all the previous years questions asked from this area. most of the questions asked from this unit are repetitive( the exact question is not repeated, but the type remains the same). having strong foundation of calculus helps in this area too.
for linear programming, it is better to cover all the topics included in the syllabus. every year, questions are compulsorily asked from either simplex method or graphical method. at least one word problem from either transportation or assignment problem is definitely given. for transportation problems, study north-west corner rule, method of least cost (matrix minima) and vogels approximation method. also study about dual of an LPP and finding it’s minimum objective function. try to understand the terms such as solution, basic solution, basic feasible solution, initial basic feasible solution, optimal solution, degenerate solution etc. a lot of pratice is required to master this area to complete the questions asked from this area within the time limit. (to be continued…….)
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*yawn*
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Hi .. any one here who applied 4 IB exam ?
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ifs 2012 ques papers uploaded at http://www.upsc.gov.in/
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I am an IFoS aspirant.I did my post graduation (M.tech.)with Dairy Chemistry. I keep botany and zoology as optional subject for appearing in IFoS examination. As these both subjects are new to me, facing some difficulties. Can anybody advise me In how much depth we need to study following topic.
· —->Study of angiospermic families-Magnoliaceae, Ranunculaceae, Brassicaceae (Cruciferae), Rosaceae, Leguminosae, Euphorbiaceae, Malvaceae, Dipterocarpaceae, Apiaceae (Umbelliferae), Asclepiadaceae,Verbenaceae, Solanaceae, Rubiaceae, Cucurbitaceae, Asteraceae (Composite), Poaceae (Gramineae), Arecaceae(Palmae), Liliaceae, Musaceae, Orchidaceae.
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thnks prabith for the details.cn u pls tell hw much time u took to complete maths,nd did u prepare maths1 n maths 2 topics side by side or u completed one n then embarked on to the other?
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Sir, First of all congrats. I wish to know your marks in mains means how much you have attempted and how much you got.
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please mention the book list for GK portion####
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hello dear, i have also given ifos paper this year. my optional is phy. and geology .in my point of view phy first paper was easy but only for those who prepare it seriously and 2 paper was difficult compare to first but overall it was easy only for those who prepare well throughout the year and geology paper was also easy both were easy and now come on gk it was easy but this year trend was changed and paper was lengthy time management was necessary so anyone who will score 90+ can be expect be in cut off list of g.k. paper so we can say that gk paper was diffcult from previous year in terms of lengthy question and changed trend and phy and geo. paper was easy from previous year but only who prepare seriously for this exam
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CAN ANY TELL ME WHAT IS THE CUTT OFF IFOS THIS YEAR FOR GEN. STUDENT I M EXPECTING 750+ IN WRITTEN EXAM AND 150 TO 160 IN GK PAPER
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@Rahul……In IFoS 2011, cut off was around 800……given the relatively less difficult level of optionals like physics, maths, botany, agriculture, geology, the possible cut off seems to be 950 plus……..for interview call, 750 plus seems to be safe…….
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brother if 2011 cutt off was 800 then how can u say it will be around 950+ yar aap khud hi think karo ya aap kis angle se bol raha ho in 2011 gk paper and english ka paper was very easy but 2012 u can see that english and gk ka paper was diffcult comapered to 2011 so if optional is easy relatively easy i m using relatively word here not easy but compare to 2011 it was easy so u can not expect so much hight cutt off plz also consider gk and eng. paper yar
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aap na apna ek comment ma khud hi bola ha ki cutt off will be less but aap yaha bol raha ho 950+ brother aap iwrite karta time kuch to think karta aap kya write kar raha ha ya blog ha yar for serious aspirant ka is
liya plz do not take it easy write only seriously
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@Rahul……..
in gk even toppers are in 120 to 150 range…….
Compared to last year, english paper was lengthy but not difficult. I dont think it will affect ones score by a margin greater than 15 marks………
so gk and english cant turn the tide decisively…….
Optionals carry 800 marks and depending on ones level of preparation and given the well defined syllabus you can easily score 500 plus out of 800…….
In GS it wont be difficult for well prepared students to score 130
In english we can assume average score of those who qualify, to be 150
In interview a score of 140 for general category wont be an exageration
so
optional 1 =250 optional 2= 250 GK= 130 Eng = 150 interview = 140
Total = 920
Further, ther are only 40 posts and 10 to 20 students from physics, maths, botany, agriculture, geology are sufficient to ouster the candidates from other streams………i repeat, i have no grudge against the students opting all those optionals……..may be all of them have suffered earlier coz of relatively easy nature of other optionals……..
U may refer to the comment no. 48 of this blog……..in 2008, even 960 marks wer insufficient to secure you a rank in final selection list; while in 2011, 930 fetched 3rd rank………
the views expressed are pure speculations……ther is no word like ‘easy’ in UPSC exams, it depends on ones level of preparation how easier the things are gonna appear……..i hope that ther are fewer very well prepared students who claim 300 plus in each optional, to leave some space for subjects where 260 plus scores are almost impossible……….
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@Rahul……..earlier i thought all the optionals might have been more difficult compared to last year, as in case of zoology and Vet. Science, but after interacting with students from other streams, i came to know that they had a relatively easy level……thats why i expect the cut off to be much higher than last year…….i wish i were wrong…..
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@ everyone
750+ cutoff in written???? R u kidin? Dat is too much yaar! I guess it’ll be close to 700 or even less than that
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i expected the cut off around 650 -700 based on discussions here .. wasnt the cut off for interview around 590 last year ?
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@all……m in no mood to crack jokes………in competitive exams you are never sure about the level of competition……..and if it can happen in 2008, why not in 2012………still, nothing wrong in sticking to what was finally retained in the Pandora’s Box of Evils – the hope.
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Why are you guys so concerned about the cut-off? How does it matter to you at this point of time? Well, the idea of exams conducted by UPSC is that they test your patience and perseverance besides talent and merit. So, you have to keep on studying without worrying about cut-off and results.
To share my experience, amusing as it may seem now, I finished the above-posted IFS interview and then went straight to UPSC counter to submit my form for next year IFS exam.
I used to write three exams CSE, IFS and IES. And I realized, during the preparation, that in order to succeed, you have to keep studying and improving on your weak points..continuously..without giving a damn to cut-offs and results!!
Best wishes!
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@ Sudhanshu Shekhar Sir………Thank you very much sir. It is heartening to see you spending some of your precious time in addressing the queries posted on this blog.
Sir you have hit the nail on its head. There is no use in discussing the cut off and other related things that are beyond our control. Sometimes some comments lead to vicious cycles like this cut off one, which has thankfully been broken by your comment.
Sir wanted to draw some more inspiration from you sir. I failed in this year’s CSE prelims. Last years CSAT cut offs were anounced only after the final result. Before that many of the cse blogs had mentioned the cut off around 180. I thought 200 plus will be a safe score and accordingly left just 20 days for the preparation. Before that i was preparing optionals for IFoS. I managed to score 205-220 (some 3 to 5 questiones were answered differently by different keys)……..Later on in an RTI, UPSC announced the cut off to be 198 for CSAT 2011…..i think i missed it by a very narrow margin sir. After the failure i have hit a speed breaker. My preparation is going at a very slow pace. Luck plays great role in success. Hope the lady luck waiting in the wings to come and smile…….
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but brother u say in 2008 960 bhi qualify nahi kar saka and i think in 2008 seats was 75 and in 2012 seats are 85 and in 2008 paper was very very easy in 2012 paper was not as easy as in 2008 ok dear so plz do not expect so much high score take all the thing in ur mind brother before gussing any thing and English and gk ka score bahut hi importent ha isko ignore mat karo yar
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second if optional were easy in 2012 then english and gk ka hi score par sara kuch depend karega yar bcz optinal agar easy ha to sabhi ka liya honga jisna study kari hogi kisi ek ka liya nahi
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muja abhi bhi yad ha in 2008 ma mera dost na 3 rank par aya tha usna optional ma 230 and 240 obtained kiya tha and paper easy hona ka badd bhi. only he obtained 180 in gs and 175 in english so english and gk na hi uski rank itni good layi thi
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brother aap ya kya bol raha ho yar 956 wala ki to 6 rank ha in 2011 ma 930 wala ki 3 kasa ho sakti ha plz yaha par wrong data mat enter karo yar it is serious blog mera brother
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and i agree with priya ur expectation is good
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ha higer then last year but itni bhi higer nahi hogi yar jitni aap bol raha ho i think it will be 870 or 880 for final selection in general cat. student
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@Rahul…..yaar i told you, i may be completely wrong……ho sakta hai ki cut off 600 se bi kam ho…….the marks sheet of Dr Girish Kumar (IFoS 2011, AIR-3) is as follows
Vet. Sci I = 114
Vet. Sci II = 98
Zoology I = 124
Zoology II= 125
Eng. = 132
GK = 142
Interview= 195
Total = 930
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hi prabith how many marks u r expecting in physics and maths paper in this year plz reply me and how many total marks u r expecting in this year in written part
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Roll No. : 017341
Name : PINGALE BHANUDAS NARAYAN
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 085
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 083
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 113
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 126
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 136
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 122
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 665
Interview Marks 300 195
Final Total 1700 860
AIR-23, IFoS 2011
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Roll No. : 001047
Name : DEBASIS MAHIMAPRASAD PRADHAN
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 095
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 077
BOTANY PAPER I 200 043
BOTANY PAPER II 200 032
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 120
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 054
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 421
Interview Marks 300 132
Final Total 1700 553 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-52, IFoS 2011
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jo last candidate ka aapna marks bola wo kya gen category se belong karta ha agar nahi to kya tum mujko general category candidate ka marks bol sakta ho meant last general category candidate jiska selection hua tha
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@Rahul…….bhai aap DOB lao mein marks sheet nikal kay chhaap donga……..i think last general category student would have had 42nd rank……..bhai tension mat le, padai pe dyaan de, baki sab Uppar Waley pe chhod dey 🙂
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wo to mujko bhi pata ha yar .tu hi bola tha apna comment ma ki phela bar cutt off 800 thi to kya tujko ya uper wala na bola kya. ya yaha par tu asa hi lika ja raha ha jo tera maan ma ata ha jaab tuja ya pata hoga to marka bhi pata honga ya tu jhut hi lika ja raha ha yaha par
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sab ki marks sheet to tuna chaap di ha ab iski bhi chapp de yar .
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I dont have his DOB
3Rank 930 marks
23Rank 860
42 Rank 800 /- 10 (most probably)
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can anybody explain the concept of penalty makrs?
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Debashish Pradhan got through via PH category..84th rank….he was my batchmate during M.Sc. days
Penalty marks…no idea!
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@Aristocrat
You made a mistake in entering marks of rank 52.. The marksheet you said belongs to rank 84 who is in PH category… The marksheet of rank no 52 is as follows…
Roll No. : 032187
Name : ROHANE RAHUL MAROTRAO
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 104
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 094
BOTANY PAPER I 200 070
BOTANY PAPER II 200 067
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 159
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 089
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 583
Interview Marks 300 216
Final Total 1700 799 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-52, IFoS 2011
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ara aristrocrat bahi ya kya kar raha ho yar ab mark sheet ko dekar kya kio ya bol sakta ha kya 42 wala ka marks jasa aapna bola 800 ha aur 52 wala ka marks 799 ha aap to shayad 800 ma se bhi 10 marks less kar raha ho kuch karo bahi apni mistake ko shai karo plzzzzzzzzzz bahi
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aap hi phela bolta ho ki pheli time 800 marks cutt off tha genreal ka ab kya hoga apka kisi dost sherya na to kuch aur hi lika ha aapka comment par
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@Rahul…are u from West Bengal/north east? wanted to know…
aristocrat’s views are purely speculative in nature….so just chill
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@Rahul… Why are you worrying so much about cut off? It will vary from year to year… If UPSC would have made the marks of selected candidates public, we could have guessed it based on results of past 3-4 years… It is quite difficult to predict near accurate cut off by knowing marks of just 4 or 5 people…In my opinion, if you belong to general category and manage to score about 850/1700 you can hope to be in the final list…All the best and wait till result comes…
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first i want ans chandu ji, chandu ji i from north meant from nainital yaha to chill hi chill ha yar . secondly yar ya aristrocrat ji kya kya write karta rheta ha pata nahi ya data kaha se lata ha 52 ko 84 bana deta ha inko kio samjawo yar wasa chandu ji aap kya bolta ka cutt off ka bara ba kya hogi general ki final cutt off or written cutt off in 2012 ma yar plz thoda achi se logo se interact karka bolna ma aapki comment se agree hu so what u will say i can assume it will be probably correct
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Shreya ji thanks for ur wishes. have u also given this exam in this year. if yes also all the best for ur result .wasa aapka ka optional kya tha aur kasa gaya aapka exam .secondly how u observe this year pattern of exam. difficult aur easy .u say 850 may be sufficient for final selection is it for this year aur average for every year. i m not worrying about cutt off but i think yaha par sabhi kuch na kuch bol raha ha so i think kio na participate kiya jaya discussion ma.
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sherya ji as u mentioned above the marks of 52 rank candidate. is he belong to general category.
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in notification upsc only mentioned about g . k marks for qualifying not english marks so g . k. marks will be taken as qualifying marks secondly 90 to 100 will be sufficient for general category to qualify. what is ur reaction about this
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@Rahul
Stop worrying. All I can say is this year’s exam is quite different than previous exams. Hope for the best.
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i know this but fir bhi cutt off kya ho sakta ha ya to bol do yar chandu ji
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we should not think about cutoff…bt still..yeh dil hai ki manta nahi..
I gathered opinion of my friends from down-south and from north. The overall impression is that the papers were time consuming and li’l bit difficult. But it is every year’s condition..isn’t it?….so according to my observation, the cutoff may remain same or may slightly come down…650+ for general category (written marks). Am sure..it will not cross 700.
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hello chandu ji kasa ho first i wana thanks to u for aapna itni lab our kiya for answering my comment ek baat to bilkul correct ha hum jitna bhi na kara but dil manta nahi cut off ki baat nikal ati ha .paper was easy but time consuming it is true i agree so may may say that it was difficult. chandu ji english ka kya scene ha .and i m also agree with u cutt will not go below 700. but yaha par kuch log asa bhi ha jo likta ha ki paper was very easy so cutt off will be 950+ upsc itna bhi dilute nahi karta ha ki paper ka stander gira de. bcz could have and actually ma kya kiya isma bahut difference ha. hum exam hall ka bahar to bolta ha paper was easy hum aur bhi kar sakta tha. but if we r in exam hall easy bhi diffcult hota ha isko upsc bhi achi se janta ha.
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@ Rahul
I don’t know the category of Rank no. 52…
My optionals were Botany and Agriculture.. I am not satisfied with my performances in GK, Bot paper-I and Agri paper-II.. So, I should not expect to qualify.. But hope still remains……….!!!!
@ all
I belong to general category and was qualified for interview in IFoS-2010… My written total was 624/1400… Final marks was 798/1700 (Not recommended)..In IFos-2011 rank no 23 got 860/1700 and rank no 37 got 837/1700…I think both of them belong to general category… From that point of view I guessed with 850+/1700, one general category student can expect to make it to the final list…
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@priya
I too found agri-II li’l problematic. I did not prepare for areas like horticulture, entomology and seed tech…i attempted those questions based on my residual knowledge. Botany-I was okay for me coz section A is familiar to me, plant pathology being my subject in MSc…i somehow managed to write section B..but this year we can definitely expect a reduced cutoff…nevertheless, i’m working on my weak areas and preparing for next yr
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@ Chandu
Hope your words are correct and there is reduction in cut off… How much are you expecting in GK? I am expecting anything between 100-110…
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shreya what is ur mail id i will send u request will u come online for chat on exam related topic .my mail id is rk42095@gmail.com plz send me request at this mail id .
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hello shreya ji how much u r expecting in ur optional papers and how was ur english paper. tell me one thing very seriously bcz u have also given in 2010 and have exp. how u observe this year exam meant we may say it difficult or easy compared to 2011.is 850 is sufficient for final list in 2012.rk42095@gmail.com is my mail id plz send me request i wana discuss some topic about exam.
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@priya
As per my perception, i am expecting AT THE MAX 135…i dnt know hw evaluator evaluates the answer paper..even if it is checked in a strict sense, i’ll surely land betn 100-110..same as urs. Evaluation of gs is generally liberal..that’s what i have heard.
I’m expecting more marks in english…optionals, as usual, were not satisfactory.
Waiting eagerly for the results..at least i should qualify for the interview..hope so
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@ rahul
Aisa nahi hai ki papers difficult the. Kuchh logon ko bahot simple lage. Delhi me mere friends ka opinion hai ki is time cut off high hoga…jin logon ko papers easy gaye wo kahte hai k cutoff high hoga aur jin logon ko difficult gaye woh kahte hai k cutoff low hoga….sabka apna apna andaaj hai….iss baat ko na discuss kia toh bahot achcha hoga….mera opinion hai k iss time cutoff low hoga.(irrespective of the simplicity of the papers) kyon ki agri-forestry..ek scoring combination is nt there this year, which claimed nearly 40-50% seats every year!
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aap english ma kya expect karta ho kitna marks .aur optional ma kitna marks. if cutt off high gaya to nearly kitna high ho sakta ha. i m asking only near about as ur delhi friend veiw
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agri-forestry combination used to fetch 800-850+ marks in written exam itself!…there wasn’t any scope for mediocres or candidates of other subjects….this year this combination is absent..that is a plus point.
But we should not think abt it at this moment..study hard
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@rahul
my friends expect 200+ in english. My expectation is around 180. Some people could not cover paper. Some covered, bt in haste. In aptionals, i hv nt perfomed satisfactorily..i’m expecting at the max 400/800…anything in between 370-400 to be precise…so everthing sums up to 640-680…not enough
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tell me one thing yar chandu ji english ma marking kasi hoti ha jasa agar pura paper kiya ha easy, letter and precise pura kiya ha and i meant average marks kitna de sakta ha examiner in easy, letter, precise ma. yar kuch log to muja asa bhi mila ha bol raha ha 900 se 910 marks in written.to humara kya hoga yar asa ma
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and ur friend kitna expect kar raha ha total marks
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@rahul
Leave it yaar…kya karoge jaan ke? Result aane do..pata chalega. Mujhe ab darr lagne laga hai yeh sab discuss kar ke.
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muja phir tumari baat yaad ati ha yar dil ha ki manta hi nahi. mera upper wala question ka response jarur dena dost
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@rahul
Mujhe pata tha k tum iss kamine ‘dil’ ko bich me jaroor laoge. Ab se ‘dil toh paagal hai ..dil diwana hai..iski mat suno”.
Anyway.., to extinguish the fire of ur curiosity, i hv few points:
1. Many of my friends found ifos-2012 rather simple. Their average expectation is 730-750 in written part.
2. Many of my friends are expecting cutoff to be high (i dnt agree with them)
3. Many of them are not sure (i am also one of them) about this year’s twists n turns of upsc…(remember..the decision to scrap agri-forestry combination came at the last moment..giving a blow to many aspirants who had prepared for da exam very seriously)..maybe we have many surprises ahead!
4. Let’s wait for the results to come.
I hope that the cutoff saga shall come to an end. Over and out.
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chandu sir ab to yahi song sing karna ha yar humko maan ki sakti dena…………..anyway i m agree with u why i bcz 1-agri-forestry combination was absent .2-agar optional easy bhi tha compare to 2011 then fir bhi yar kio kitna marks increase kar sakta ha optional ma 50or 60 agar maan lo 80 bhi then fir bhi ek drawback to ha na g.s ka wo to bahut surprize tha many students ka liya to phela ka comprasion ma aap matlab 2011 ka 20 or 30 marks less kar lo 3-english paper was easy but was time consuming but also not easy as 2011 i have seen 2011 english paper was easy compare to 2012 so 10to 15 marks is ma less karlo so total less marks 40 ok 4 – agro forestry combination minimum aap 10 marks is ma less kar sakta ho total 50 it is minimum so agar optional ma aap maximum 80 marks bhi increase karta ho to ok 90 maan lo phir bhi 90-50 =40 that is maximum increase from prvious year if previous year ki 620 or 630 bhi thi for general category ka liya to maximum increse in cutt of 40 no ka meant 680 to 660 is se jayda nahi m i right i meant aap prvious year se maximum 40 or 50 ka increase kar sakta ho aur lastly topper to topper ha agar kisina 2011 ma acha kiya hoga yaha bhi karega but tooper optional ma jayda increse nahi karega bcz uska to phela bhi marks acha honga so increse karenga wo jinka phela marks less tha wo bhi kitna kar sakta ha wo mana upper bol diya so it is my analysis
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secondly upsc ka ek surprise aur ha i think many have forgotten this have u notice 2011 ma age limit kaha se count thi 1 july now 2012 ma 2 august se so many student jinka ias ka attempt last ho chuka hota ha ifos bhi try karta ha but is time wo nahi kar sakta bcz ab age limit 2 august se count ki gayi ha na ki 1 july se
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rahi physics ki baat mera optional physics hi tha paper was easy specially 1 paper but unka liya jisna througt study kari ha pura sylabus cover kiya ha aur physics ka sylabus pura cover karna itna easy nahi ha physcs so agar yaha par kuch comment mana read kara ki phy math combination was easy i do not know about math but phy ka bara ma bol sakta hu ki agar jisna syllabus thought cover kiya hoga bilkul pura wo bhi maximum i say maximum 70 ya 80 se jayda marks increase nahi kar sakta ha physics ma i say maximum only for extraodinary nahi to average 40 or 50 ise jayda nahi
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@all,
Which essay did u attempt??
I attempted ‘the role of spiritual leaders in social transformation’…i started well, had some striking points…but finished abruptly due to lack of time. I know it will harm a lot.
What is ur take???
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i attempted cultural and history can not be divorced this is the same thing i also right very well from beginning at last sub kuch bahut hi sorrowful ending ho gayi
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i think this year’s english paper can fetch more marks coz:
1. Two letters: earlier there used to be only one letter for 50 marks. The evaluator had to judge the content of ur letter for 50 marks. That was a difficult task according to me. But now, he/she will find it easy to judge one letter for 25 marks, and collectively, we can end up scoring more marks.
2. Two precise writings: same goes here as well. Earlier, there used be only one precise writing for 75 marks!
3. Easy grammar
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i m agree with u up to a limit but uska badd nahi bcz agar gram easy tha to wo previous two letter and two precise time consuming bhi tha . and i think 2011 ki grammer portion was easy then 2012 so marks will remain same even if less ho sakta ha bcz last portion mostly have done in haste du to lengthy and time conuming paper asa ha to gk ma bhi more marks hona chaya bcz paper was easy but time consuming tha so……..
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secondly agar asa ha to fir to cutt off surely high hogi is bar bcz only gk ka bharosa aap ya nahi bol sakta ki cutt off low hoga bcz optional to easy tha so cutt off realy high hogi is time
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@raj
sorry for not replying to ur query earlier since i was not at home. i went to kerala, my hometown for a few days due to a relative’s marriage. you asked whether i had completed the entire syllabus of maths or skipped one or two units in each paper. as u r aware maths paper 1 and paper 2 is divided into two sections- section A and section B. questions from section A are never asked in section B. so, though i prepared the entire syllabus for both the papers, my emphasis was on section A in first paper and section B in paper 2. i thoroughly prepared one section of both the papers to attempt atleast 120 marks paper well. the preparation for the other section was not as rigorous as the previous section but still i prepared all the topics mentioned in the syllabus to atleast a basic level keeping the previous years ifos papers
as my reference source. i also practiced from previous years cse papers, since few questions from cse papers are directly asked in ifos as well.
it is better to study the topics in the same order as mentioned in the syllabus, since upsc has arranged the syllabus of various subjects in a sequential manner where interlinked topics are dealt together. so, in the syllabus, calculus is followed by ordinary differential equations and vector calculus and not vice versa. also, it is
better to study one unit at a time rather than preparing multiple units at the same time. this is because u r simultaneously preparing for physics along with maths everyday and so studying multiple units in both the subjects at the same time may be stressful and can reduce your overall efficiency and may make u feel frustrated. it took me a whole year to complete the entire syllabus of ifos( still i could not prepare for gk thoroughly, since gk preparation requires a few more extra months).
i hope all your queries are sorted out. thanks.
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hello how r u, i wana ask one question how many marks u have attempted in physics paper, and how much u r expecting in physics paper. and how much u r expecting total written marks
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anybody please help,,,,,how to prepare Geology for ifs.I am in immense need of guidance.Which material to procure and whats the strategy.plzzzzzzzz help!!!!!!!!!!
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dear sir I want to prepare for indian forest service .please tell me its preparation strategy and recommended books ?
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Just 9 months left for the IFoS, 2013 exam……..Do or die……
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sir, i am physics(h) student ..i am confused to 2nd subjecct……please….
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poonam @chandu m phys-agri kaisa rahega pls agri ki books or prepration ke lie kuchh batao….
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Roll No. : 020314
Name : TIRUMALA RAVIKIRAN
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
MATHEMATICS PAPER I 200 102
MATHEMATICS PAPER II 200 111
PHYSICS PAPER I 200 066
PHYSICS PAPER II 200 095
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 184
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 131
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 689
Interview Marks 300 204
Final Total 1700 893 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR – 11
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Roll No. : 031478
Name : BHUVANESWARY J
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 082
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 095
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 076
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 024
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 148
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 173
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 598
Interview Marks 300 180
Final Total 1700 778 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-66
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Roll No. : 013986
Name : KALYAN RAI
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 107
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 074
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 109
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 085
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 168
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 100
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 643
Interview Marks 300 189
Final Total 1700 832 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-43
@Rahul…….happy now…..cut off for Gen Category = 832
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Roll No. : 057335
Name : DIMPI BORA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 105
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 073
BOTANY PAPER I 200 115
BOTANY PAPER II 200 125
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 183
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 128
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 729
Interview Marks 300 170
Final Total 1700 899 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-10
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Roll No. : 021446
Name : R KEERTHI
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 117
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 096
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 106
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 117
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 160
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 159
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 755
Interview Marks 300 225
Final Total 1700 980 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR – 01
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Roll No. : 063260
Name : SUNIL SHARMA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 200 112
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 200 077
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 112
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 064
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 180
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 096
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 641
Interview Marks 300 204
Final Total 1700 845 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-30
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@aristocrat just look at agri-forestry combination!
@poonam: why do u want to take agri as an optional subject? It is a vast subject. And physics too is very huge. The combination of two huge subjects may become a difficult job for u. Select ur optionals wisely. For agri, u must* have some biology background…and agri is altogether different from traditional plain-bio subjects too. I am not discouraging u, bt would like to advise u that first go through the syllabus. You can take physics-maths combination if u like…or any other engineering subject. I have a friend who has opted for physics and agricultural engineering…he finds it easy. Agri. Engineering is indeed easy for physics/maths background people.
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@chandu…..yes, i second ur view point……..Agri-Forestry combination was a monstrous compitator………and i observed thar UPSC has moderated the scores in a way that no student has crossed 125/200 in any subject…….i think gone are the days when you could score 150 in any paper……you have to perform well in all the subjects, not just one or two subjects………
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@ aristocrat exactly!
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IFoS 8 Rank 2011
Got IFoS-2011, 8 Rank
Marks (Razni Rzdhan Board)
Roll No. : 026487
Name : DEVESH KUMAR MAHLA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
CHEMISTRY PAPER I 200 139
CHEMISTRY PAPER II 200 133
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 085
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 076
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 145
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 128
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 706
Interview Marks 300 210
Final Total 1700 916 Remarks : Recommended.
This one is an exception, 125 plus……..
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aristocrat bahi ya kya kar diya aapna kaha se liya ya mark sheet thanks yar dost tumna bahut labour kiya hoga inko load karna ma. ok dost ab bolo kya hoga ish bar cutt off ma tumara view lena chata hu tumara imagination kya bolta ha
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Roll No. : 034511
Name : G GURUPRASAD
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 108
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 087
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 095
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 088
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 116
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 113
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 607
Interview Marks 300 237
Final Total 1700 844 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-32
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Roll No. : 013183
Name : ANUP KUMAR SONI
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
BOTANY PAPER I 200 091
BOTANY PAPER II 200 099
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 112
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 102
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 127
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 101
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 632
Interview Marks 300 156
Final Total 1700 788 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-58
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Roll No. : 000100
Name : NISHA RAJ
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 117
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 080
BOTANY PAPER I 200 079
BOTANY PAPER II 200 100
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 171
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 101
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 648
Interview Marks 300 150
Final Total 1700 798 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-53
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Roll No. : 022326
Name : PRIYANSHI SINGH
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
BOTANY PAPER I 200 131
BOTANY PAPER II 200 083
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 111
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 080
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 117
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 113
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 635
Interview Marks 300 201
Final Total 1700 836 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-39
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woah! From where did u get these marksheets?
Written marks= 630 to 680…enough
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Roll No. : 032250
Name : PATIL SUYOG SUBHASHRAO
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 200 112
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 200 094
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 101
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 092
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 135
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 117
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 651
Interview Marks 300 200
Final Total 1700 851 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR 28
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@aristocrat : thanks for posting these
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@Rahul………my pleasure brother 🙂
Kuch keh nahi saktey dost…..bas padai kartey raho !
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FRIENDS,,,,,,,PLZZZZ HELP ME IN GEOLOGY,,,,,,,,,,,ANY INFO ABOUT IT,,,,,,,PLZZZZZ
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@Shreya…. Hi shreya… m also choosing agri n botany as my optional… plz suggest me.. books and kindly tell aap kaise prepare ki yeh dono subjects…. plz reply.. 🙂
My email id is.. Worstguy11@gmail.com plz reply…
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@aristrocrat…. dude.. aapne yeh results post krke… dil khush kr diya…. thanks a lot… 🙂 n alll d best for result… 🙂
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@Aristocrat… bhai can u plz send me 2012’s question paper of GS and English……??? my email id is worstguy11@gmail.com..
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@Mohsin…..thanks……for Q papers check UPSC website…..they have uploaded all the Q papers.
http://www.upsc.gov.in
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Roll No. : 000374
Name : SUMESH SOMAN
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 120
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 112
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 103
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 102
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 177
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 080
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 694
Interview Marks 300 171
Final Total 1700 865 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-20
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Roll No. : 016350
Name : JAYAKRISHNAN V K
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
BOTANY PAPER I 200 120
BOTANY PAPER II 200 112
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 071
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 086
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 129
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 092
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 610
Interview Marks 300 171
Final Total 1700 781 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-65
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Roll No. : 016475
Name : MURALI SANKAAR K
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 094
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 062
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 111
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 079
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 152
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 116
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 614
Interview Marks 300 174
Final Total 1700 788 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-56
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Roll No. : 010653
Name : SANATH KUMAR N
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 087
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 038
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 076
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 116
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 159
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 121
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 597
Interview Marks 300 189
Final Total 1700 786 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-59
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bahi yar kuch to bolo kya hogi istime cutt off ab to image clear ho chuki hogi aristocrate bahi plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz kuch to commet to yar i m wating for ur comment about cutt off
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@Rahul…….last year ka clear hai, is saal kya pata kitney students achhey se tayari kiye they………
bhai agar interview mein 200 aur written mein 650 hai, to selection pakka…….ab 850 se kitna kam hoga, kuch keh nahi sakti….wesey mark sheets se lag raha hai ki Agri-Forestry combination ka Competition kitna zabardast tha, jo ab nahi hai………tu bai khoob padai kartey raho………
Bas Karam Karo
Phal Ki Chinta mat karo 🙂
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matlab agar written ma 650 ho to interview call aa jayagi
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hey if anyone has Geology and Mechanical as their optionals, please contact me at
pawar0508arpit@gmail.com . I can help you with e-books and i want to discuss some topics.
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have u given this year exam with geology
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@Sudhanshu Shekhar…….
sir I just wanted to thank you for your blog, this is by far the most helpful site alongwith EXAMRACE.com for preparation of IFS.
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yahi ha na aristrocat bahiya aap ka matlab itna to ab sure ho chuka hoga
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@RAHUL …. no next year will be my first attempt, but i am preaparing for this exam since third year of my B.E. And now am quite familiar with geology. And thanks for replying
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if yes how ur exam gone . how was geology paper. and how is marking done in geology paper.
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u have seen this year exam .how was is it.
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@Aristocrat………..thanks for posting marksheets.
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this user >>> IFS aspitant, needs guidance for geology.
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@IFS aspitant………..contact me at pawar0508arpit@gmail.com , i am not an expert in geology but staying in contact can be mutually beneficial.
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thanks a lot illuminated88,,,,,,highly thankful to you,,,,,,,,,i am just a fresher to geolgy and i am about to start with it,,,,,,,,,,,need to get info about study material and various other strategies,,,,,ok going to contact you,,,,,,,,hope you will guide me,,,,,,thanks,,,,,
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@Mohsin
I would tell you to refer the following books.. You need to read the selected topics only based on the syllabus.. No need to go through the entire book..
Agri paper I: Agronomy by Y. Reddy, Handbook of Agriculture, Plant pathology by BD Singh, Horticulture by N. Kumar + internet for topics not covered in these books.
Bot paper II: The Cell by Bruce Alberts, Molecular Biology by Watson, Genetics by Simon and Snustad, Biochem by Lehninger, Plant Breeding by BD Singh, Plant physiology by Pandey and Sinha.
Agri paper II: I think after preparing for Bot paper II and Agri paper I you do not need extra preparation for this paper..
Bot Paper I: Sorry! I cannot help you out here as I myself found it difficult to prepare for this paper.. I mainly tried to clear the concepts given in the syllabus by reading my +1 and +2 books and referring to internet..
All the best… May I know your educational background?
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Is ther anyone who has opted Mech. Engg. for IFS.
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Roll No. : 019512
Name : DHEERAJ MITTAL
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 093
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 062
BOTANY PAPER I 200 067
BOTANY PAPER II 200 100
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 165
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 140
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 627
Interview Marks 300 225
Final Total 1700 852 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-27
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bhaiya matlab 650 wala ki interview call aa jayagi suno gs ma kitna lana hoga clear karna ka liya plzzzzzzzzzzzzz bahiya tell me
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Roll No. : 047794
Name : BRIJENDRA SRIVASTAVA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
CHEMISTRY PAPER I 200 131
CHEMISTRY PAPER II 200 115
MATHEMATICS PAPER I 200 080
MATHEMATICS PAPER II 200 077
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 186
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 113
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 702
Interview Marks 300 156
Final Total 1700 858 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-25
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@Aristocrat- Thanks a lot dude… 🙂 n plzsuggest how to prepare GS…..??????
@ Shreya… thanks a lot shreya…. 🙂 I am Graduate form BSc Botany….!
n shreya yeh dono subjects to tb check honge na jb… GS clear hoga… 😦
Help me in GS also dear…..
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Roll No. : 013908
Name : HAIRATJIT KAUR
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
BOTANY PAPER I 200 118
BOTANY PAPER II 200 092
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 102
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 128
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 174
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 115
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 729
Interview Marks 300 189
Final Total 1700 918 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-07
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@ aristocrat, shreya n Chandu… guyz abhi maine 2012 ki GS ki paper dekhi…. its pattern is so much different from rest years pattern…… n it was more difficlt then before…! i waana know kya next year b aise hi pattern change ho jayega… ????
n plz suggest me how to prepare GS.. plz…!
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@Mohsin
For GS first go through NCERT books (class XI and XII) of Geography, History and Pol Science to clear the concepts… Then you should do an elaborate study on each subjects.. For Geography, refer to book by Spectrum.. For Pol Science, it is better to go through CSR/Pratiyogita Darpan yearly review..For History, you have to find out any good book covering ancient, medieval and modern history.. I don’t have idea about specific good History book..And of course you have to practice Map pointing, know the persons in news, sport persons/terms, etc..etc.. Get help from internet.. Let yourself be updated with latest affairs of the country, Govt schemes and so on..
Last but not the least, you can refer to notes of Bhajiram and Ravi… Sudhanshu sir has already mentioned about the worthiness of their notes.. They have postal course for the GS.. You can see their website.. I think their postal course session starts from Nov.. All the Best.. Just keep on studying as there is no limit to the knowledge that you can gain…
GS and English patterns were little bit changed this year.. So from now onward be prepared for such changes.. Changes may happen for 50 marks or so.. But the core pattern will remain the same I hope…
@Arisocrat
Thank u for uploading the mark statements.. It makes the cut off picture clearer.. I agree with u coz I too think that with 850/1700 we can surely hope to be in the final list..
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Thank u Shreya…..thank u so much… 🙂 Hope i will get more help in future…. Thanks ….. 🙂
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Thanks shreyaji and others for the guidance. Can anybody help with the list of books for forestry to be followed for each section?
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Roll No. : 007909
Name : R MURUGAN
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 200 107
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 200 091
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 079
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 078
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 178
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 136
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 669
Interview Marks 300 210
Final Total 1700 879 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-16
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@all…… those who qualified, interview marks are in the range of 156 – 237………..can we assume that 150 marks in interview are easy to obtain,…….it may be noted that Sudhanshiv Sir (AIR-05, IFoS -2007) had 130 marks……it seems UPSC is relatively liberal now, as during 2000-2010 we frequently came across scores in the range of 120-160 out of 300……….ther are reports that amongst those who didnt qualify IFoS 2011, had even 60 marks out of 300……..interview, i believe is the most crucial stage. Little efforts can push you ahead by atleast 50 marks, while being lenient can ouster you out from the competition…….as u can see Dr JD pati, got 204 in interview and saved the day by a margin of 5 marks. His total marks=837, cut off was 832…..his AIR=37…….
Same is the case with the lucky champ who got 237 in interview………..You have to fight till the very end, or end up under-acheiver.
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Results, according to UPSC, are likely to be out in the last week of Dec 2012 or ist fortnight of january 2013. I think preparations for the interview must be started no later than starting november. Given the absence of competition from Agri-Forestry combination, introduction of screening on the basis of GK, relatively less scoring potential of GS, more difficult level of zoology, vet. Sci. and forestry optionals, for general category students, 90 marks in GS, and a total of 580 should expect an interview call. But, I keep repeating, there should be no room for complacency. Be ready to face worst, but hope for the best. 🙂
Best of luck to all aspirants.
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@hemu
I am giving you the book list for forestry.You may not read them from front to back but I suggest you to look for the topics from each of them.The given list meets the demand of the syllabus prescribed.Hope you will find these fruitful:
Handbook of forestry : LS Khanna
Principles and practices of silviculture : LS Khanna
Silvicultural Systems : Ram Prakash
Forest Utilization : Tribhavan Mehta or FRI vol 1,2
Forest Mensuration : AN Chatturvedi
Forest Protection : LS Khanna
Forest Tree Breeding : ICAR Publication
Agroforestry : Chundawat or AP Dwivedi
Forest Policy and law : SS Negi
Wildlife Management : RS Singh
Ecology and Environment : PD Sharma
Moreover, you can read Forestry for IFS by Jain Publications for brushing up of all the topics in the syllabus.
If you wish to seek more clarifications for the material, you may ask for sure.
Thanks.
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@IFS Aspirant: Really thanks a lot for the quick reply.
Can you also guide me form where i can get theese books? Also can you please share you email id with hemchandravjti@gmail.com
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*Forestry*:
1. Silviculture (principles and practices of silviculture)L.S.Khanna
2. Theory and Practice of Silvicultural Systems Ram prakash and L.S.Khanna
3. Forest Management Ramprakash
4. Forest Protection
Ramprakash
5. Forest Engineering
Ramprakash
6. Forest Survey
Ramprakash
7. Nursery Managemnt Vinodkumar
8. Agrofrestry A.P.Dwivdi or Chundavat
9. Tree improvement B.Zobel 7 J.Tolbert or Vasudeva Sir Notes
10. Silvicultural systems Ramprakash & L.S.Khanna
11. Forest mensuration A.N.Chaturvedi, L.S.Khanna
12. Handbook of Forestry A.N.Chaturvedi, L.S.Khanna
13. Forest utilization Ramprakash
14. Forest Policy & Law S.S.Negi
15. Forestry made easy K.Manikandan, S. Prabhu
16. Ethnobotany Ashalata, Etc
17. Wildlife Bhat sir Notes
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chandu sir forestry- kitna scoring h kya phy-forestry bhi thik rahega
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@mohsin GK papers henceforth, shall be similar in pattern to this year’s GK paper. Given that the GK will be a filter/screening tool, the questions shall be very very general (i.e. no particular group of ‘expert students’ shall have an edge over others). We have witnessed this thing in CSAT too. After it was known that MBA and Engg. students have an edge over the students of other faculties, the questions which we saw in this year’s CSAT-II were so easy that even an VIII std student can solve them with ease. What mattered was the SPEED with which one solved them. In IFoS too, UPSC shalll be very general…simple & general questions…but everyone will struggle to complete the paper! We should be thorough with the basics and explore more to augment our knowledge.
@poonam forestry is good choice. Scoring subject.
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Roll No. : 010653
Name : SANATH KUMAR N
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks
Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 087
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 038
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 076
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 116
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 159
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 121
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 597
Interview Marks 300 189
Final Total 1700 786
Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-59
Roll No. : 046987
Name : SAMRAT GOWDA D S
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks
Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 102
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 084
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 067
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 085
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 119
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 144
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 601
Interview Marks 300 192
Final Total 1700 793
Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-55
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Aristocrat is revealing marksheets like wikileaks! 🙂
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@Hemu,,,check your mail
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upsc calendar for 2013 exams is out, but date of ifs 2013 is to be announced later
any specific reason fr such delay?
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i hav botany and zoology as optionals,i found zoology paper 1 lengthy in ifs 2012,also english was tougher dis time,i m xpecting score in d range 630-680,obc category, xpecting an interview call,dis yr obc cut off for interview may go below 580,last yr student wid 570 got an intervew cal in obc,dis yr cut off may go down becoz-1)forestry+agri banned,33%students who qualify r wid this combination 2)gk and english paper tougher wrt last yr and also in changed format,tougher essay in english,lengthy english paper3)qualifying in gk mandatory 4)no choice in compulsory question 1,5 u hav to attempt all subparts of q1,5 5)lengthy ,tougher,unconventional optional papers
lets see wat happens result most probably b\w 23 -25 dec
anybody wid botany and zoology can be in touch fr discussion
presently writing ias mains
also selected in mp forest service as forest range officer
waiting fr d training date
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I think competition gonna be very tough this time…everyone is of the opinion that the exam was tough, less competition from agri-forestry etc etc…the major chunk of students will have scores between 650-700..it will be a difficult task for the UPSC to select 230 odd candidates for the interview. In my opinion, the reasons sited for the decrease in cutoff will themselves be the reasons forthe increased competition! e
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@prabith thnks .
mee too saw the timetable for 2013.not only hav upsc not revealed the time table for ifs2013 ,they hav also pushed it below cds2 exam which happens to be in september.does that mean ifs2013 mayb held in september-october???
people pls giv ur view on this.
@vipin can u tell me when r the state forest ranger exams held,and hw is the exam like compared to ifs exam,do we need to write mains there as well,r previous papers of such exams available? pls tell more about it. n yes congrats for ur success n best of luck for ias mains mate
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@raj-state forest ranger exams r held depending upon availability of vacancies in every state
in mp forest service exam was held in 2008,2010,2011, i cleared 2011 exam
but dis yr no exam in mp fr state forest service,may be next yr
in mp their is only one phase having 3 objective papers each having 150 questions and 300 marks ,total 900 marks, one gk ,2 separate optional papers ,all objective,150 questions each, and interview is of 100 marks
fr different states different pattern
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HI THIS IS PRIYADARSHAN I HAVE GOT FULL MATERIAL FOR MECHANICAL GEOLOGY AND FORESTRY IF ANY ONE OPT FOR ANY OF THESE OPTIONAL CAN CONTACT ME ON THE FOLLOWING NUMBER AND PLEASE NOTE THAT IT WILL COST SOME BUCKS SO ANY ONE INTERESTED CAN CALL ON THIS NUMBER +919700439452
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UPSC changes the calendar for CSE 2013. Mains exam to commence from 11November. Now there is a gap of 5 months and 20 days between Prelims and Mains exam. By increasing the gap, it is being suggested that the UPSC is preparing the ground for scrapping of optionals from next year.
IFoS 2013 exam dates yet to be announced.
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@aristocrat-buddy no.of days are still 21 days , and arun s nigavekar committee report will be submitted in january 2013, and notification of cse 2013 will be on 2 feb, hence possibility of changes in 2013 r very less ,90% chances r dat it wil not change,10% chances of change becoz upsc is striving hard for change,but at d end d buck stops at dopt clearance
at present all aspirants continue wid optionals
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@vipin……hope so..in case they intended to do away with the optionals, 8 to 10 days would have been more than sufficient….so, 21 days is boding well for us……and best of luck for your exams……i am sure it will be a hatrick of successes for you……the success in your state forestry exam will project your image in good colours during the interview…
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@chandu…….thanks a lot dear….. 🙂
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Roll No. : 023190
Name : SURAJ
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
MATHEMATICS PAPER I 200 132
MATHEMATICS PAPER II 200 107
PHYSICS PAPER I 200 044
PHYSICS PAPER II 200 094
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 149
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 137
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 663
Interview Marks 300 159
Final Total 1700 822 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-45
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@shreya…. hiii.. dear jo books aapne suggest kiya hai… plz tell wo books khaa milengi???…… plz reply
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@Mohsin
You can get Agriculture related books from IARI book shop (Near Sishir Hostel), New Delhi… Books suggested for Botany can be got from Nai Sarak, Delhi..
Good luck!!!
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What’s Happening i am new to this, I stumbled upon this I have found It absolutely useful and it has aided me out loads. I am hoping to give a contribution & aid different users like its aided me. Good job.
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Watz 40% rule?
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shreya ji aapki mail id kya ha kya aap mujse online chat ma bat kar sakta ho kuch discuss karna tha aapse mine i d is rk42095@gmail.com
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Dear friends, whats your regarding this news in Hindustan Times:
The new format of the Indian Forest Service exam likely to be introduced from 2013 could allow students from science and technology streams otherthan the conventional ones.
The environment ministry is in talks with the
Union Public Service Commission on the new format, which can attract a large section of students without diluting the objectives of the paper. The modified format could come intoforce by next year.
Former environment minister Jairam Ramesh had initiated the process of reform in the IFS exam to attract youngsters from various fields to the forest service. India has 3,034 IFS officers with 66% of them being direct recruits.
The remaining is promoted from state government forest cadres.
But in the past 14 years, more officers than that required were hired, resulting in reduction of promotion avenues and frustration among the cadre, a ministerial committee to review the IFS system had said in May 2011.
Through the new format, the government aims to fill vacancies and create an efficient forest service to protect wildlife and forests while looking after the needs of people dependent on forests for their livelihood.
Graduates of traditional science subjects such as botany, zoology and math were allowed to appear for national IFS examination.
The ministry is now considering including subjects such as bio-technology and social sciences in the ambit of the IFS exam.
“The current day Indian Forest Service is more exciting and challenging than ever before,” said DrPJ Dilip Kumar, director-general of forests and special secretary to the Government of India, Ministry of Environment & Forests, to the students and IFS probationers during the Foundation Day lecture at the Indian Institute of Forest Management in Bhopal recently In recent years, the role of forest officials have widened with increasing interface with local communities and inclusion of scientific tools in managing forests.
The environment ministry has decided to expand the eligibility criteria for IFS, started by the British in 1864, as part of an exercise to restructure the forest bureaucracy with an aim to make it modern and competitive and is seeking the UPSC’sapproval.
In a bid to get better quality candidates for the IFS, the ministry has worked out a test in English language and general study.
In addition, the exam will be conducted in all languages as applicable for other all Indian service examinations.
The ministry also wants the UPSC to increase the intake of IFS officers on annual basis to fill up the vacant posts.
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@all
when i went to kerala a few days back, some of my relatives suggested me to prepare for indian engineering services exam( which is also conducted by upsc, exclusively for engineers). since, i had already prepared my optional subjects( for ifos) except a few areas of gk, i too felt that instead of wasting my precious time, i should simultaneously prepare for ies exam which is going to be held on 28th june next year(for three consecutive days). i purchased previous years solved papers of ies( 1997-2012) of made easy and gk publications and both of these books are superb. the solutions of both objective and subjective papers are accurate and to the point. almost 35-40% of questions( asked in the exam) are repetitive and few interlinked questions are also asked.
i did not purchase any standard book for my branch subjects since i had all the relevant books with me( which i studied during my b.tech). i feel that every engineering graduate should think of writing ies exam( provided he belongs to one of the four engineering branches offered) since, he can use his technical knowledge for administrative purposes. some people feel that this exam is extremely
difficult and impossible to crack. this is a myth!!!. i have seen the objective papers( of my branch) and they are just of moderate difficulty barring a few questions. the subjective papers are comparatively more difficult but still a person with strong basics in subjects( of their respective branch) could solve more than 50% of the paper with ease. even toppers score in the range of 50-55% marks( at times even 60% which is quite rare). but you need to to be in top 20 (rankers) to enter the prestigious indian railway service which is the most desirable post of ies. the preparation of general ability (for ies) can be done along with gk preparation for ifos.
is anyone of u preparing for some other exam apart from ifos. if yes, which one???.
i feel nowadays due to cut-throat competition going on almost everywhere in every field, it is practical enough for prepare for more than one exam (provided u have sufficient time and energy!!!). do u agree with my viewpoint? if not, still no hurt feelings!!!.
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@ifs aspirant-some changes may occur ,becoz ifs exam dates are not announced and it has been shifted below cds , to be held most probably in september as per the serial number,uptil d time d exam schedule and dates r not announced nothing can be said , something is happening ,if there will be a change they will notify uptil december
its really pathetic dat every yr upsc gives some shock,wat about those students who r taking costly coachings fr optionals in delhi?wat about those who r prepairing fr ifs right since graduation and r planning to appear in 2013?wat if optionals r deleted in new format?
we cant do anything but just study and continue as per old pattern uptill upsc announces d schedule and dates of ifs 2013
dont wait fr upsc announcements,”to wait is to waste time and oppurtunity”
remember even if it changes ,it will be fr everyone
lets keep ourselves updated of d happenings wrt 2013 and continue as per old pattern
hope fr d best and be prepared fr d worst
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Press Brief
STRENGTHENING THE INDIAN FOREST SERVICE
29th
June 2011
The Indian Forest Service (IFS) came into being in 1966, to manage, conserve
and develop the forest and wildlife resources of the country. However, a lack of
long-term planning on annual recruitment, skill building and training in the past
has been a cause for concern.
A five-member committee constituted by the Ministry in 2010, headed by Shri
J.C.Kala, Former DG Forests, undertook an exercise to draw up a comprehensive
recruitment plan for the next 20 years. The report of the Committee is available
on the Ministry’s website.
In a meeting chaired by Mr. Jairam Ramesh, Minister of State (Independent
Charge) for Environment and Forests, the report of the committee was presented.
This was followed by a useful discussion in which the following key points
emerged:
1. Both in absolute terms, and in terms of a break down between direct
recruits and promotions, present cadre strength is on par with the
recommendations of the committee – an estimated 71 direct recruitments
per year are a sufficient number to fill the cadre posts while keeping the
pyramidal structure of the system (i.e. not top-heavy). See Annex 1. for a
broad contour of the Forestry Sector
2. From a conservation and ecological perspective, there may be a need to
reconsider state-wise recruitment in the coming years, considering the
differential requirement of officers by state forest area, population
pressure and other such issues
3. State-level recruitment of frontline forest staff, i.e., forest guards, foresters
and rangers, has been increased over the last two years, to bridge the gap
between sanctioned and actual strength. This gap needs to be further
narrowed as frontline forest staff is critical to forest conservation, and the
Ministry of Environment and Forests will follow up with States in this
regard. See Annex 2. for present position regarding forest frontline staff
4. Eligibility criteria for the IFS exam will be expanded to include
Indian Institute of Forestry Management graduates and other
Science/technology graduates not presently included. Further,
the exam currently only in English, will be held in all languages
as for other All-India Services, but will continue to be held
separately
focus on point 4
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dear prabith how much marks u r expecting in physics paper
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@rahul
my physics papers went off quite well. i was able to attempt full marks questions in both the papers. even if the checking is strict,i am not expecting anything less than 150+ in both paper 1 and paper 2.
may i know whether u r an engineering graduate or have a bachelor’s degree in physics. in either case, why didn’t u opt for maths as the second optional for the exam since engineers and b.sc holders(in physics) cover more than 60 percent of the maths syllabus during their enginering/graduation itself. geology may be a much safer optional than maths but a lot of diagrams need to be drawn to score respectable marks in this paper. even scoring 100 marks seems like a herculan task in this paper as the previous years result shows, even though the candidates might have attempted full 200 marks paper. you can even ask aspirants who opted geology as the optional subject for the exam and compare their previous years exam marks which will verify my claim. i am not saying this to discourage u but only to say that we should always avoid taking unfamiliar subjects in any exam (unless we have no other option), since all subjects are equally difficult and having background in any subject always helps, especially upsc exams which test intellectual traits and in-depth understanding of the candidates in various subjects rather than mere superficial knowledge. taking subjects of u r background helps in personality test too, since many questions related to ur background subjects are also asked during ur personal interview irrespective of the optional subjects u have chosen. choosing background subjects lessens ur burden for personality test preparation. nevertheless, if ur taking any guidance for geology preparation, then u can continue with the same optional. i hope u will take my comment in good spirit.
anyways, best of luck for the results!!!
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thanks dear for ur nice advice . i want help from u in physics dear sir can u tell me that how u attempted question no 5(a) and Bose Einstein condensation in physics paper 1 .and what is maximum no of modes . in physics paper 2 can u tell me that what is completeness condition and how wave function will satisfy this condition.and question no 5(c) and 5(d) in physics paper 2 and question no 7(b) second part if u do not mind can u tell me ans of this question plz give some of ur precious time to me ans above questions pl z dear sir . sir how much word u write in 20 no question in physics paper like question four type of interaction in nature pl z help me sir
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I wish there are not more than 15 Prabiths that wrote this years exam……
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@prabith-buddy if u wil get 150*2=300 in both d papers of physics , u will get 1st rank and dat too wid a record score
even if a person does full paper wid100% accuracy ,he generally scores around 140
lookat toppers marks they hav scored 130 in 1 paper and around 90-100 in 2nd and still figured in top 10
attempting a question correctly does not mean u will get full marks in dat question
attempting a 40 marks correctly fetches around 25 marks at maxm if its fully correct in general(maths is an exception)
live in a world of reality not in a world of illusion
dont be in self created fool’s paradise, its not college paper
i think its ur 1stattempt upsc is a big eye opener
but still dere r exceptions,may be u r d person wid exceptional talent,super genius,divine incarnation who wil clear ifs wid 1st rank and wid record marks
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vipin sir pratibh is exceptional case .he is rarest of rare case of upsc. so do not ignore him he is fully confidence that he will get 150+marks in both the exam .he done well in both paper and complete 200 marks in both paper of physics.so can he not get 150+ marks .he may be and i think will be first ranker of this year. he is very genius and not only genius but also good adviser he gave me a good advise that do not take geology bcz geology is less scoring paper and he said upsc does not believe in superficial knowledge so i will always obliged to him really he is very nice person. so he will get 150+in both paper it is my trust
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@vipin……there have been many examples in UPSC exams where i have seen 160 plus scores in subjects like physics chemistry and maths…you can google it….Devesh Kumar Mahla is one example, but this year even he didnt cross the 140 mark in chemistry……infact i didnt come across a score 150 plus…….i think UPSC is moderating the scores in a way that nobody is able to cross 150 bar….nevertheless, 140 to 150 scores are possible……..
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aristrocrat ji how r u i think prabith is exceptional case he is very genius person he is also very good adviser so he can get 150+marks in both paper .he will be first ranker of this year plz note it down .and there will be only one prabith no 15 pratibh
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what will be the cut off in this year vipin sir according to u
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@aristocrat,rahul
i m sorry to all d fans of prabith
i agree prabith is a person of expectional talent, i m not deserving enough to comment over him
sorry prabith,;pardon me fr my big offence,may god forgive me
by d way cut off fr general will be in d range of 590-620 ,it will not cross 620
gud luck fr results ,result will be around 23 dec
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vipin ji can u give me Ur contact email id i want chat with u on ifs related matter i will send u request and u accept my id is rk42095@gmail.com. i want contact with u plz ur email id
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i agree wid aristocrat. I’hv heard dat UPSC modifies our scores to bring them at par wid other students by multiplying them wid some factor.
I’m sure there are many students like prabith. Don’t perform…n u die.
@vipin how are u sure abt da cutoff marks?
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@(especially vipin 2730) and many others
oh my god!!! this is too much!!!. only because i was able to attempt the entire physics paper well, does it mean that i am exceptional/ brilliant/ out of the world case or rarest of the rare case???. how can anyone reach such a conclusion so quickly without using his/her discretion wisely. does it mean that the aspirants who were not able to attempt the entire paper correctly are fools/dumb or non-serious.
intelligence or brilliance has a much wider meaning than the knowledge gained by reading a few standard books!!!. please do not unnecessarily create stereotypes by thinking that one is better than the other.
dear vipin, i don’t live in a world of illusions!!!. i definitely know the difference between mirage and reality. i can fool others but can i fool myself?. i am not at all annoyed by ur comment but rather appreciate ur viewpoint. i am very well aware of the marking scheme followed by upsc and also agree that attempting a question correctly does not mean that a candidate will get full marks for that question. but, it’s also a fact that physics is not a fully theory oriented subject like agriculture or botany or zoology etc. most of the questions(which includes numericals) have a well defined answer and the scope of drawing diagrams is also limited in this paper as i have already mentioned in one of my earlier posts( nearly two months ago). a single 40 marks main question is never asked in physics paper due to the semi- technical nature of the subject. a single main question is divided into many parts and sub-parts which may be of 5, 8, 10 ,15, 20 or 25 marks. 25 marks question are rarely asked in physics barring one or two instances. since, a single question may have many parts or sub- parts, so it becomes comparatively scoring than attempting a single main question of 40 marks. this also has an added advantage-
this saves the aspirants from deviating from the original answers of the questions asked and he is spared from writing too much for a particular answer. (to be continued).
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sir plz ans me these question . i want help from u in physics dear sir can u tell me that how u attempted question no 5(a) and Bose Einstein condensation in physics paper 1 .and what is maximum no of modes . in physics paper 2 can u tell me that what is completeness condition and how wave function will satisfy this condition.and question no 5(c) and 5(d) in physics paper 2 and question no 7(b) second part if u do not mind can u tell me ans of this question plz give some of ur precious time to me ans above questions pl z dear sir . sir how much word u write in 20 no question in physics paper like question four type of interaction in nature pl z help me sir
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is the results due on 23.12…
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cant imagine the shock when it says like always number not found 😦
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@rahul
i will definitely help u providing accurate solutions to all the questions u have asked. give me one or two days.
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GS Mains Question 2012. Paper I
1. Answer any five of the following in about 250 words each: 25×5=125 a. What do you understand by the term “Innovations”? Discuss the need for launching a national innovation policy in India. b. Keeping in view the informal sector’s share in the total workforce of the country, critically examine the relevant inclusive measures initiated by the Government of India and their effectiveness.
c. Examine the causes and the extent of ‘desertification’ in India and suggest remedial measures.
d. In the context of the growing demands for the ban of Endosulfan in the country, Critically examine the issues involved. What, in your view, should be done in the matter?
e. “The Indian independence movement was a mass ‐ based movement that encompassed various sections of society. It also underwent the process of constant ideological evolution.” Critically examine.
f. The issue of tourism in core areas of tiger reserve forests in the country is a subject matter of debate. Critically examine various aspects of this issue, keeping in view relevant recent judicial pronouncements.
2. Answer any seven of the following in about 150 words each: 15×7=105
a. “There is an urgent need for the Planning Commission to revise the chapter on health in the 12 th Plan document.” Comment.
b. The Union Cabinet recently cleared the proposal to rename and amend the Child Labour (Prohibition and Regulation) Act, 1986. What are the salient features of the proposed amendments?
c. “Domestic resource mobilization, though central to the process of Indian economic growth, is characterized by several constraints.” Explain. d. The ‘flute ‐ playing Krishna’ theme is very popular in India art. Discuss. e. What are the salient features of the Consumer Protection (Amendment) Bill, 2011 introduced in the Lok Sabha in December 2011? f. What do you understand by the term “Multi ‐ Drug Resistant Tuberculosis” (MDR ‐ TB)? What measures would you advocate for its containment and what are the implications of its spread in the community?
g. Given the accelerated pace of development and demand for energy, would you consider renewable energy as a viable option for India’s future?
h. Many food items contain “trans fats”. What do you understand by this term? Which Indian food items contain trans fats? What are the implications of trans fats on human health?
3.Answer the following in about 50 words each: 5×11=55
a. What is the ‘Parivarik Mahila Lok Adalat’? b. List the main objectives of the National Manufacturing Policy (NMP), 2011. c. Comment on the significance of Rasarnava in studying the history of Indian Chemistry. d. What are the Rights within the ambit of Article 21 of the Indian Constitution? e. Comment on the significance of the Preamble contained in the Right to Information Act. f. To implement one key recommendation of the Mohini Giri Committee, the Government has recently announced the constitution of a National Council. Highlight the composition and the mandate of this National Council. g. Comment on the recent launching of the National Mission on Libraries (NML). h. What are the groups into which musical instruments in India have traditionally been classified? i. Comment on the significance of fire in Zoroastrianism.
j. Why is Laurie Baker called ‘the conscience keeper of Indian architecture’? k. You are stationed in a small district town in the plains of Northern India. The summer has been severe. Suddenly, a colleague, who had been out since morning, returns to the office complaining of headache, restlessness and confusion. Shortly, he becomes unconscious. His body temperature is 40 C. What first aid steps would you take to revive him?
4. Comment on each of the following in about 20 words each: 2×5=10
a. The significance of Patharughat in the Indian freedom struggle b. Bagurumba folk dance
c. Determining the ‘value’ assigned to the vote of a Member of a State Legislative Assembly and of a Member of Parliament in the Indian Presidential elections
d. Significance of the SPOT ‐ 6 rocket launch for ISRO
e. Issues highlighted through the work of Palagummi Sainath
5. Why have the following been in the news recently? (Answer to be in one sentence only) 1×5=5
a. P.V.Sindhu
b. Aditya Kumar Mandi
c. Cyrus Mistry
d. Ashoke Sen
e. Mario de Miranda
IAS GS Mains Question 2012.
Paper II
1. Answer any four of the following in about 250 words each: 25×4=100
a. Do you think that China’s emergence as one of the largest trading partners of India has adversely affected the settlement of the outstanding border problem?
b. Discuss the globalization of R&D and its impact on India’s development. Provide an illustration from at least one sector such as Information Technology or Health.
c. Discuss the contentious issues that have caused the prolonged constitutional logjam in Nepal.
d. The human population is slated to grow to 9 billion by 2050. In this context, many scientists predict that plant genomics would play a critical role in keeping out hunger and preserving the environment. Explain.
e. “The situation today is far different to that prevalent fifty years back when the Indus Water Treaty was signed.” Heighlight the complexity of the current challenges on both sides of the border in this regard. Do you think that a review of the Treaty is in India’s best interests?
2. Answer any five of the following in about 150 words each: 15×5 = 75
a. Write a short analytical note on Indian Diaspora. How is the “New Diaspora” different from the “Old Diaspora”?
b. Why have the resource rich African and South Asian Countries remained poor for decades? Explain.
c. Does Putin’s return as President of Russia mark a shift to a confrontationist stance in international diplomacy towards the west? d. Analyse critically the interlinkages between the Convention on Biological Diversity and FAO Treaty on Plant Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture.
e. Critically review the international concern in achieving the targets set for the Millennium Development Goals.
f. Discuss the likely negative impact of the protectionist measures proposed by the US on India’s software industry.
3. Answer any six of the following in not more than 100 words each:
a. In the context of Assisted Reproductive Technologies, India has emerged as a hub of commercial surrogacy. What key biological, legal and ethical issues merit consideration while framing the regulation to govern surrogacy in India?
b. Why is international trade perceived to have failed to act as an “engine of growth” in many developing countries including India?
c. Despite strict prohibitory regulations, “doping” has become increasingly common amongst athletes. Name five commonly used performance ‐ enhancing drugs. What are the risks associated with their use?
d. Compare the significance of IBSA and BRICS in the context of India’s multilateral diplomacy.
e. The safe landing of the “Curiosity” Rover under NASA’s space programme has sparked many possibilities. What are those and how cloud humankind benefit from them?
f. How have the US sanctions against Iran affected India’s bilateral relations with Iran?
g. What is Permaculture? Give at least three common examples where permaculture concepts are being put to use.
4. Answer the following in not more than 50 words each: 5×6=30
a. The Sequoia supercomputer was launched this year. What are its specific features and what is its purpose? b. What is meant by the G8 5 group?
c. The Human Papilloma Virus vaccine has been making the headlines in the recent months. Who make the ideal candidates for receiving this vaccine and what are its benefits?
d. What are India’s stakes in the South China Sea?
e. Explain the concepts “Environmental Sustainability” and “Sustainable Development of People”.
f. Explain briefly the “Clean Development Mechanism” as provided under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).
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@rahul
i am slightly busy now due to some personal work. i will post all the answers to your physics problems( paper 1 and paper 2) till thursday. hope u understand!!!.
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ok dear sir no problem
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Guyz…. plz suggest me some books for general knowledge….
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heard about 40% rule. By that way, GS cutline will be 120.
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ya muja bhi pata chala ha kisi coaching wala na bola ki gs ki cutt off 120 tak ho sakti hi is bar aapna kaha se suna dost ……………………………………………..chandu ji aap abhi ho kaha par agar delhi ma ho to kya mujse mil sakta ho
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Guys,
The interview schedule is up on upsc website.
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Hi Shikha, Sahil – Can you guys please post the procedure to file RTI, how to go about filing the RTI request, to whom to address this etc. It would be a great help to anyone doing this for the first time. Thanks!
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@Rahul……bhai IAS Optionals ki kya news hai, CSE 2013 Mains syllabus Change hoga ya nahi?
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yar jaha tak mana read kiya ha only 10 percent chance ha ki optional change hona ka 90 percent chance ha ki nahi hoga ara suno yar ifs ki to kio news bolo yar yar ya 40 percent ka rule sahi hoga kya.pata nahi yar kya hoga cutt off ka ab to ulti ginti suru ho gayi ha………………
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@Chandu
How much sure are you about this 40% cut off rule? From where did you get this info? Oh God! I am feeling so worried…My hope of getting call for interview will shatter if the news is true..
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shreya ji aap gs ma attempt kitna no ka karki ayi ho. aur aap ka hisab se aap ko lagta ha kya 40% ka rule sahi ho sakta ha.muja bhi dar lag raha ha pata nahi kya cutt off hoga ………..
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@chandu-dis 40% rule is surely a rumour,,cut off for gs can’t be more than 75-80 marks ,upsc just want to eliminate non serious students by avoiding checking of copy of optionals of such students to reduce d load,keeping 120 cut off means selecting students only on basis of gk paper becoz hardly 300-400 students will get more than 120 in gk ,so everybody chill anything abov 80 in gk is surely safe
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vipin sir give ur contact no plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz or any contact details plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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about 40% rule: you need to at least score 40% marks in gk paper…and in other papers as well..! I got this info from a friend who is undergoing IFoS training in d’dun….class teachers are also discussing da same.
@rahul..i’m in mumbai right now
@shreya..well..this is a confirmed news.
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dear chandu u say that in other paper also what is meant by it .if we get 40% marks in gk paper and did not get 40% marks in English or other optional then we not qualified then what is meant by it dear………………40% marks rule is gs paper or for other optional also…………………if someone did not get 40% marks in English or other optional but get in gk paper then he will eliminate or his optional will be cheacked
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u say you need to at least score 40% marks in gk paper…and in other papers as well. in other papers also i do not understand what u want to say adding statement in other paper as well as.is other paper also require 40% marks it meant if someone getting less than 40% in one optional and more in other he is disqualified then .if someone not getting 40% in English he disqualified then . chandu dear can u clear ur statement other papers also………..
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If this 40 % rule news is believe to be true, final cut off will nosedive to less than 800. I was completely in the dark regarding this GK imbroglio, and only came to know about it after finishing the exam.
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@vipin……i think not more than 200 candidates will be scoring more than 120. Look at last year scores. I came across just 1 candidate-the topper- from general category who has scored more than 50 % in GK. Majority of them are in the 100 to 130 range. Given the relatively more difficult level and less scoring potential of this years GK paper, i think the cut off will not exceed 100 mark level.
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@rahul-buddy i m in delhi ,my papers of ias mains will get over on 18th october,botany optional,i will leave delhi on 25 october , u can cal me after 18th -08743820061
@aristocrat,chandu,rahul-by d way tak my words gk cut off will not be more than 80
@ias aspirants wid botany,zoology-d zoology paper of ias mains was horrible,unconventional-d demand of optionals in ias is to cover entire syllabus and retain everything in xam which is very difficult,u cant get thru wid 70%syllabus coverage in optionals in present ias format,
on d contrary in ifs even 60% syllabus coverage wid effectiveness is sufficient, it will be much better if upsc scraps optionals in ias,but dis is not happening in 2013
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@vipin…….yes, i agree with your view point regarding the GK cut off………Regarding IAS zoology paper, was it more difficult than this years IFoS zoology paper?
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gk cutoff: 120 (40% of 300)
English: 120
Optionals: 80
I can understand. This news isn’t digestable.
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dear it meant in every optional we have to make 40 % marks .it may happen . i think 100 % no. i can understand that in gk it may be bcz according to upsc notification but upsc never said that in every optional u have to make 40 % otherwise u will be eliminated it can not be correct dear
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@Chandu….your source of information is a friend undergoing IFoS training, and some teachers…but how can u be so sure about the validity of this information…i dont think they have got any links with UPSC to discuss what is being cooked behind the closed doors of Dholpur House. Kindly get it confirmed.
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tell me one thing dear it can happen that in every subject u have to qualify bcz upsc only said about gs paper is qualifying not every optional in other paper it may be low score also as in case of English if we will not get 40% in English then we shall eliminated dear i do not know why this type of unpractical information he is putting here
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@All…..you can add me on Facebook @ “Stellar Venus”
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plz give ur mail i d i sent u request have gmail i d or facebbok id plz
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mine is rk42095@gm,ail.com
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My e-mail id is
waniskuast@gmail.com
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have sent u request in gmail accept me
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Halo! anyone preparing with mechanical for ESE
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Roll No. : 001509
Name : ASHOK KUMAR MAHARIYA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 075
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 080
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 078
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 091
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 106
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 129
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 559
Interview Marks 300 150
Final Total 1700 709 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-83
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Roll No. : 001412
Name : NARENDRA BABU S
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 118
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 057
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 102
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 089
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 162
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 107
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 635
Interview Marks 300 180
Final Total 1700 815 Remarks : Recommended.
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@Aristocrat,,,,any marks sheet of GEOLOGY.I am desperate enough.Please!
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what is ur optional how ur exam gone how many marks u have done in geology i have also geology optional u can contact with me my i d i s rk42095@gmail.com
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Roll No. : 046987
Name : SAMRAT GOWDA D S
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 102
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 084
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 067
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 085
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 119
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 144
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 601
Interview Marks 300 192
Final Total 1700 793 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-55
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Roll No. : 044136
Name : KUMAR ASHISH
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
MATHEMATICS PAPER I 200 134
MATHEMATICS PAPER II 200 155
PHYSICS PAPER I 200 085
PHYSICS PAPER II 200 095
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 181
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 094
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 744
Interview Marks 300 120
Final Total 1700 864 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-21
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Roll No. : 011620
Name : UMA RANI N
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 092
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 072
BOTANY PAPER I 200 124
BOTANY PAPER II 200 087
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 141
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 101
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 617
Interview Marks 300 180
Final Total 1700 797 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-54
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hi everybody,something interesting to share,in ias botany paper,the girl who was behind me was kalyani ,rank 51,ifs 2011, she attempted ias papers in hindi medium ,she had hindi medium in her graduation ,but inspite of dat she attempted ifs optionals in english(no hindi in ifs)and also scored gud marks in english 185approx in ifs,and secured 51 rank dis yr, smthng really inspiring
i also met one guy who was disqualified in ifs medical test due to height ,his height was 159 cm 4cm less than 163 cm whch is required fr ifs(for boys)., it really hurts when u r disqualified in medical just due to silly factors like height
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good one sir.. N congrats..
Sir im a civil engineer n plz suggest me which subject should i opt as second subject …
Im thinking og geology ,, so will it be benificial..
N ryt now im preparing for engineering services but have much interst in assistant commandant and IFS…
So plz suggest me the right n best way for ifs..
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Name : KARMVEER
Indian Forest Services Examination 2010
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
PHYSICS PAPER I 200 156
PHYSICS PAPER II 200 132
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 049
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 075
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 068
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 143
Written Total 1400 623
Interview Marks 300 132
Final Total 1700 755
Remarks : Not Recommended.
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Hey guys do let me know any one here who will be opting for Agriculture…..
Finding difficulty in getting the materials….. can any 1 help-me plz…….
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yes…………………………. vijay m from rajasthan and here there is no source for forestry and agriculture notes so would you please suggest me or make me available ???
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@ sandeep…..My options are Zoology and Agri…Zoology I have retained all my basic Degree books and prepared notes from same…but for Agri..I am refering few standard books mentioned by Agri Friends…but still not able to tally the sylab with that to of Question Papers like zoo…
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humm but what to do I am facing problem in botany and comparative to forestry it’s not scoring so wat to do ?????
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Well..currently are you working ..?? if not you should be geeting enough time to study…Bcz…All the Optionals looks vast..but i feel you should be selecting the options based on the easy availabitiy of the material..refer few question papers and know the Pros and cons..of each sub..That may help you alot.
I am selecting Zoo bcz I hope I can secure 110-130 bcz i know sub. if i Come close to 90-100in Agri its a good result ..infact it could be best
See the propotion that you can cover by refering the QPs…including IAS papers (Agri, Botany, Zoo, Geo, ….)
Dont compare youself with others..
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can any body tell how me, the standard of papers this year in comparison to 2011…ifs..
plz share ur own expiernce ..
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Plz any tell me the book list for Zoology,,,,plzz
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Plz help me,,PLZZ
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Interview Board: Rajni Razdan
Name : JD PATI
Indian Forest Service Examination 2011
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 200 108
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 200 106
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 069
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 096
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 140
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 118
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 637
Interview Marks 300 200
Final Total 1700 837 Remarks : Recommended.
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ITERVIEW BOARDS AND MARKS AWARDED (IFoS-2011)
Ajay Chittora
153 (Vijay Singh Sir)
Anup Soni
156 VIJAY SINGH SIR
Sunil Sharma
204 vijay singh sir
Sanjay Chauhan
120
Devesh Mahla
210 Interview (Razani Razdhan)
Priyanshi Singh
201
Selvam C Chandran
interview 240 Rajni Razdan Ma’m
Ujjwal Kumar
721 written, 159 interview(Vijay singh)
Rohini Saikia
589 159 V Reddy sir
DrMurugan Ram
210 razni mam board (total 879, Rank 16)
Vidhya Chandran
200 Rajni Razdan board
Narendra Babu
razni mam board,,,,,,,,180
Kavita Singh
204 vijay singh sir
Vivek Hoshing
744 180 P K Mishra
Kalyan Rai
643 189 Alka sirohi
Kalyan Rai
643 189 Alka sirohi
Amrita Dutta
668 195 (PK Mishra Sir)
Vanjulavalli Sridhar
712 165
Sumesh Soman
694 171 (V.Reddy Sir)
Amrita Dutta
668 195 (PK Mishra Sir)
Vanjulavalli Sridhar
712 165
Sumesh Soman
694 171 (V.Reddy Sir)
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@ Aristocrat ..Thanks Dude ..your Information is valuable….Keep posting
Thanks a lot..
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INTERVIEW OF DR JAGYANDATT PATI (AIR-37, IFoS-2011)
Iterview Board: Rajni Razdan
Marks Awarded : 200
Chairperson….
1.Name ?
2.Roll NO. ?
3.Date of Birth ?
4.Photo Identification
5.Difference between GSD&Alsatian Breed ? which is ur favourite?
6.Between these two which is the direct descendant of Wolf ?
7.Longest surviving animal?
8.Is Anna Hazare is Gandhian ? Explain ur view.
9.Basic difference Between gandhiji&Anna ?
Member 1
1.Forest act&policy ?
2.Importance of Forestry ?
Member 2
1.What is Green House gas effect?&give examples of the gases
2.Ozone layer&its depletion
3.Ozone layer Depletion quotient taking Carbon dioxide as point of reference ?
Member3
1.What is KBk ?
2.problems in Odisha ?
3.Name some Centre sponsored project in odisha?
4.What is BPL?
5.How BPL is calculated is rural&urban areas?
6.Name the central institute established in Koraput 2 years back.
Member 4
1.What is IT act ? clauses of IT act ?
2.What is blogging?
3. What is SPOOFING?
WHAT IS PHISHING?
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I read all messages by you guys @Chandu @SHashank @Ankita i request you guys to take me in Google groups or send me an email chirupolo@gmail.com i am appearing for IfoS in 2013. Optional s are Chemistry….2 i have to choose (in dilemma) so help me out. AM an average student with 70% percentile up to My PG
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@All…….UPSC should bring out the list of candidates having been screened on the basis of their performance in GK paper. The unexpected failure in qualifying for the interview with deliver a severe buffet to many serious students that have done well in their Gen English and optionals. If UGC, in conducting the NET examination, can make public the list of screened ones, why can’t UPSC persue the same pattern.
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@Sudhansu sir, i am a geology graduate and had contemplate agriculture as second paper for IFoS exam.i would like to know whether the choices are good .the second doubt i would raise is about the emphasis,plan i need to lay upon for preparation.
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@All……have a look at those lines from the Notification of IFoS-2012,
”Government strives to have a workforce which reflects gender balance and women candidates are encouraged to apply”(page 15 bottom line).
Does it mean that there will be separate cut offs for women candidates. Is UPSC having any intention to match the words with the action?
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I hardly leave a response, but I glanced through a
few responses here Indian Forest Service Sudhanshu Shekhar.
.. I do have a couple of questions for you if it’s allright. Could it be simply me or does it give the impression like a few of the responses look like they are left by brain dead folks? 😛 And, if you are writing at other online social sites, I would like to keep up with you. Could you make a list of all of your public sites like your Facebook page, twitter feed, or linkedin profile?
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how to cover forest economics (forestry optional). plzz suggest book or abstract
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any fresh news?
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yes dear most of the student which have physics maths and chemistry optional have done exceptionaly well in this year so regarding to cutt off in this year will go to very high bcz when i interact with them they say they will get nearly 300 marks in physics and also in other paper they have done very well so we can think what will be cutt off. 650 will be very low i think will not sufficient for qualifying written exam so this is fresh news .msot student with physics maths and chemistry will make in topper list and also botany paper was very easy in this year so cutt off may be 730 to 740 in written in this year. written cutt off
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Expected date of result declaration?????
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@Sahil…… 23 December, 2012 to 15 january, 2013
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@chandu ..as per the discussions here , GK will be the determining factor rite ?
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@Priya….. I don’t think so. Cut off in GK must not exceed 80, otherwise some well deserving candidates will be screened out. In any case, 100 in GK is safe in my opinion, becuase 100 corresponds to the universal 33 % qualifying benchmark. And considering all the factors invovled in this years exam, a score of 600/1400 in written should comfortably get you the interview call. Reiterating the pithy quote- “Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.”
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any updates on ifs 2013? ths is my last attempt..ad i’m worried about pattern change ad exm dates ad all…..
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any updates regardind ifs 2013??????? upsc site is not responding since one week….
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if any body want geology.forestry or mechanical engg materials …contact priyadarshan on +919700439452
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yeah…GK will be a deciding factor. Those who hv done well in both GK and optionals will emerge victorious!@ priya…students from all faculties have done well…there are ppl who hv done extremely well wid agri, botany, forestry, animal husb. as well.
No idea abt ifs-2013…the pattern will hopefully remain the same. It’s just the expansion of the eligibilty criteria… The IIFM guys have also been included.
Let UPSC reveal itself. Until then, keep gossiping…:D
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anythng wrong wth d upsc website..???
whn will d exm be held nxt yr..???
abt wch month?
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@ aristocrat : 600 is hard to get by 4 me .. anim husb + zoology both were flop .. any way hoping 4 the best
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Hello sir, how much English is important in interviews……what drawback you feel there or not…….
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IFS 2013 examination- to be announced later…does it mean IFS 2012 results will be announced late…like they did last year?
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Expected cut off 4 gen. Cat in written exam ??????
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how much u r expecting in written and what is ur optional
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@rahul my opt. R bot. N zoology….wazz ur opt.s n tell me how much u r expecting
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my is geology and phy. how much u r expecting in written
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Hello all!…..any idea about when this year’s result is going to be announced?
I called up at UPSC today, but they say no idea and it may come around same time as last year, he was not sure though.
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can any body tell me, pharma graduate is eligible for ifs exam or not.plz any tell me the books of zoology and botany for ifs 2013 exam preepration also. plz reply me on my email address- tinkujhajjar87@gmail.com
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@ priyadarsan i need geology notes
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The central government has not given its nod to the proposed changes in the Civil Services (Main) Examination by the Union Public Service Commission (UPSC).
The recommendations, made by the committee headed by Prof. Arun S Nigavekar, former Chairman, University Grants Commission (UGC), aims to make the examination more relevant with the present day, global as well as internal scenario.
“The UPSC has submitted a proposal to the Central Government suggesting certain changes. Till now, no decision has been taken by the Government on these recommendations,” said V. Narayanasamy, Minister of State in the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pension told Rajya Sabha in a written reply.
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Union Public Service Commission 131
Annual Report 2010-11
The Indian Forest Service Examination is conducted in two successive stages viz. the Written Examination
followed by Interview for Personality Test. The written examination consists of six conventional (essay)
type papers and carries a total of 1,400 marks whereas the interview carries 300 marks. Only those
candidates who qualify the written examination are eligible for interview (Personality Test).
2. Out of 59,530 candidates who had applied for the Indian Forest Service Examination, 2010,
10,389 (17.5%) candidates appeared in the written examination held in July, 2010. On the basis of results
of the written examination, 237 candidates were declared qualified for Personality Test. Of the 237
candidates, 236 candidates attended the Personality Test, of whom 85 candidates were recommended
by the Commission for appointment to the Indian Forest Service 2010. The number of vacancies and
the candidates applied, appeared, qualified the written examination, attended Personality Test and were
recommended in the Indian Forest Service Examinations held during the last five years, are given in
Table-1.
Table-1: Year-wise Number of Vacancies and Number of Candidates : Indian Forest Service Examinations
Year
Number
of
Vacancies
Number of Candidates
Applied
Appeared
in Written
Examination
Qualified
the Written
Examination
Attended the
Personality Test
Recommended
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
2006 35 35,601 8,882 113 112 35
2007 40 31,887 7,696 129 128 40
2008 85 32,872 7,659 232* 230 85
2009 85 43,262 10,330* 231 226 85
2010 85 59530 10389* 237 236 85
* Note: Candidature of two candidates each were subsequently cancelled in the year 2008 , 2009 and 2010 respectively.
2.1 Number of candidates appeared in the written examination, attended the Personality Test and
recommended during the last five Indian Forest Service Examinations are shown in Diagram-1.
3. Community and gender-wise number of candidates applied and appeared for the Indian Forest
Service Examination 2010 is given in Table-2.
3.1 It may be seen from Table 2 that out of 59,530 candidates who applied for the Indian Forest
Service Examination 2010, only 10,389 (17.5%) of the candidates appeared for the written examination.
In other words, 82.5% of the candidates did not turn up for the examination. Further, the dropout rate
among the candidates belonging to Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and Other Backward Classes
was lower as compared to that of the General community.
3.2 Out of the 10,389 candidates who appeared in the Indian Forest Service Examination 2010, a
total of 3,348 (32.2%) candidates were female. Similarly of the total 85 candidates recommended in the
Indian Forest Service Examination, 2010, 17 (20%) were female (vide Table-7).
Appendix-17
(Vide Chapter 3)
Indian Forest Service Examination – 2010: Profile of candidates
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any idea regarding cut off nd declaration of result date@chandu
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Hi,
I just have one question. It is really critical for me. I HAVE MYOPIA. (-8) LEFT EYE AND (-6) RIGHT EYE. AM I ELIGIBLE FOR IFS??? I meet the other physical standards. Please do no comment unless you are sure.
Thanks in advance.
Writuraj
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no idea
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APPENDIX III
REGULATIONS RELATING TO THE PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OF CANDIDATES
(Vide Rule 17)
[these regulations are published for the convenience of candidates and to enable them to ascertain the probability of their being of the required physical standard. The regulations are also intended to provide guidelines to the medical examiners. The medical examination shall be conducted in two parts, i.e. Part I which shall consist of the entire medical examination which the medical board may prescribe for a candidate, except the Radiographic Examination of the chest (X-ray test) and Part II which shall consist of Radiographic Examination (X-ray test of the chest). The Part II shall be conducted only in respect of the candidates who have been declared finally successful on the basis of the examination. The Government of India reserve to themselves, absolute discretion to reject or accept any candidate after considering the report of the Medical Board].
1. To be passed as fit for appointment a candidate must be in good mental and bodily health and free from any physical defect likely to interfere with the efficient performance of the duties of his appointment.
2. Walking Test: the male candidate will be required to qualify in walking test of 25 kilometers to be completed in 4 hours and female candidates 14 kilometers to be completed in 4 hours. The arrangement for conducting this test will be made by the Inspector General of Forests, Government of India so as to synchronise with the sitting of the Medical Board.
Provided in case a candidate who has been called for appearing in the walking test after declaration of the result of the written part of the Examination, either fails to complete the walking test within the prescribed time limit or fails to appear in the test, will be given another opportunity to appear in the walking test after he is selected for the Indian Forest Service on the basis of final results of the Examination. In case he again fails to appear/pass the test, no further opportunity will be given to him to appear in the walking test.
3. (a) In the matter of the correlation of age, height and chest girth of candidates of Indian (including Anglo Indian) race it is left to the Medical Board to use whatever correlation figures are considered most suitable as a guide in the examination of the candidates. If their be any disproportion with regard to height, weight and chest girth the candidate should be hospitalised for investigation and X-ray of the chest taken before the candidate is declared fit or not fit by the Board. However, the X-ray of the Chest will be done in respect of only such candidates who are directed to appear before the medical board for Part 11 of the medical examination.
(b) The Minimum standard for height and chest girth without which candidates cannot be accepted are as follows:
Height
Chest (fully expanded)
Expansion
163 cms
84 cms.
5 cms. (for men)
150 cms
79 cms.
5 cms, (for women)
The following minimum height standards may be allowed in the case of candidates belonging to Scheduled Tribes and in races such as Gorkhas, Nepalies, Assamese, Meghalaya Tribal, Ladakhese, Sikkimese, Bhutanese, Garhwalees, Kumaonis, Nagas and Arunachal Pradesh candidates whose average height is distinctly lower:
Men
152.5 cms.
Women
145.0 cms.
4. The candidate’s height will be measured as follows:
He will remove his shoes and be placed against the standard with his feet together and the weight thrown on the heels, and not on the toes or other sides of the feet. He will stand erect without rigidity and with the heels calves, buttocks and shoulders touching the standard. The chin will be depressed to bring the vertex of the head level under the horizontal bar and the height will be recorded in centimeters and parts of it in centimeter to halves.
5. The candidate’s chest will be measured as follows:
He will be made to stand erect with his feet together and to raise his arms over his head. The tape will be so adjusted around the chest its upper edge touches the interior angles of the shoulder blades behind and lies in the same horizontal plane when the tape is taken round the chest. The arms will then be lowered to hang loosely by the side and care will be taken that the shoulders are not thrown upwards or backwards so as to displace the tape. The candidate will then be directed to take a deep inspiration several times and the maximum expansion of the chest will be carefully noted and the minimum and maximum will then be recorded in centimeters 84-89, 86-93.5etc. In recording the measurements fraction of less than half centimeter should not be noted.
N.B-The height and chest of the candidates should be measured twice before coming to a final decision.
6. The candidate will also be weighed and his weight recorded in kilograms, fractions of half a kilogram should not be noted.
7. The candidate’s, eye-sight will be tested ‘ in accordance with the following rules. The results of each test will be recorded:
(i) General- The candidate’s eyes will be submitted to a general examination directed to the detection of any disease or abnormality. The candidate will be rejected if he suffers from any squint or morbid conditions of eyes, eyelids, or contiguous structures of such a sort as render, or are likely to render him unfit or service at a future date.
(ii) Visual Acuity-The examination for determining the acuteness of vision includes two tests, one for distant vision other for near vision. Each eye will be examined separately.
There shall be no limit for minimum naked eye vision but naked eye vision of the candidates shall however, be recorded by the Medical Board or other medical authority in every case, as it will furnish the basic information with regard to the condition of the eye.
The Indian Forest Service is a technical service.
The standards for distant and near vision with or without glasses shall be as follows :
Distant vision
Near vision
Better eye (corrected vision)
Worse eye
Better eye (corrected vision)
Worse eye
6/6
6/6
N.5
N.5
Type of correction permitted : Best correction (unspecified) Radial Keratotomy.
NOTE:
(a) Fundus Examination-In every case of Myopia Fundus Examination should be carried out and the result recorded. In the event of pathological condition being present which is likely to be progressive and affect efficiency of the candidate, he/she should be declared unfit.
The total amount of Myopia (including the cylinder) shall not exceed – 8.00 D. Total amount of Hypermetropia (including the cylinder shall not exceed – 4.00 D).
Provided that in case a candidate is found unfit on ground of high myopia, the matter shall be referred to a special board of three opthalmologists to declare whether this myopia is pathological or not. In case it is not pathological the candidate shall be declared fit, provided he. fulfils the visuals requirements otherwise.
(2) Colour Vision – (i) The testing of colour vision shall be essential.
(ii) Colour perception should be graded into a higher and lower Grade depending upon the size of the aperture in the lantern as described in the table below :
Grade
Higher grade Colour perception
Lower grade Colour perception
1. Distance between the lamp and candidate
16 ft.
16 ft.
2. Size of aperture
1.3 mm
13 mm
3. Time of exposure
5 seconds
5 seconds
(iii) Satisfactory colour vision constitutes recognition with ease and without hesitation of single red, single green and white colours. The use of Ishihara’s plates shown in good light and suitable lantern like Edrige Green’s shall be considered quite dependable for testing colour vision. While either of the two test may ordinarily be considered sufficient, it is essential to carry out the lantern test. In doubtful cases where a candidate fails to qualify when tested by only one of the two tests, both the tests should be employed.
NOTE : For appointment to the Indian Forest Service, Lower Grade of colour vision will be considered sufficient.
(3) Field of vision – The field of vision shall be tested in respect of all services by the confrontation method. Where such test gives unsatisfactory or doubtful results, the field of vision should be determined on the perimeter.
(4) Night Blindness – Night Blindness need not be tested as a routine, but only in special cases. No standard test for the testing of night blindness or dark adaption is prescribed. The Medical Board should be given the discretion to improvise such rough test, e.g. recording of visual acuity with reduced. illumination or by making the candidate recognise various objects in a darkened room after he/she has been there for 20 to 30 minutes. Candidates own statements should not always be relied upon but they should be given due consideration.
(5) Ocular conditions other than visual acuity – (a) Any organic disease or a progressive refractive error which is likely to result in lowering the visual acuity should be considered as a disqualification.
(b) Trachoma -Trachoma unless complicated shall not ordinarily be a cause for disqualification.
(c) Squint – As the presence of binocular vision is essential squint even if the visual acuity is of the prescribed standard, should be considered as a disqualification.
(d) One eyed persons – The employment of one eyed individuals is not recommended.
8. Blood Pressure
The Board will use its discretion regarding Blood Pressure.
A rough method of calculating normal-maximum systolic pressure -is as follows
(i) With young subjects 15-25 years of age of average is about 100 plus the age.
(ii) With subjects over 25 years of age the general rule of 10 plus half the age seems quite satisfactory.
N.B.-As a general rule any systolic pressure over 140 mm and diastolic over 90 mm should be regarded as suspicious and the candidate should be hospitalised by the Board before giving their final opinion regarding the candidate’s fitness or otherwise. The hospitalisation report should indicate whether the rise in blood pressure is of a transient nature due to excitement etc. or whether it is due to any organic disease. In all such cases X-ray and electrocardiographic examination of heart and blood urea clearance test should also be done as a routine. The final decision as to the fitness or otherwise of a candidate will, however, rest with the medical board only.
Method of taking Blood Pressure
The mercury manometer type of instrument should be used as a rule. The measurement should not be taken within fifteen minutes of any exercise or excitement. Provided the patient and particularly his arm is relaxed, he may be either lying or sitting. The arm is supported comfortably at the patient’s side in a more or less horizontal position. The arm should be freed from the clothes to the shoulder. The cuff completely deflated should be applied with the middle of the rubber over the inner side of the arm and its lower edge an inch of two above the one of the elbow. The following turns of cloth bandage should spread evenly over the bag to avoid burging during inflation.
The brachial artery is located by palpitation at the bend of the elbow and the stethoscope is then applied lightly and centrally over it below, but not in contact with the cuff. The cuff is inflated to about 200m Hg and then slowly deflated. The level at which the column stand when soft successive sounds are heard represents the Systolic pressure. When more. air is allowed to escape the sound will be heard to increase in intensity. The level at which the well-heard clear sound change to soft muffled fading sounds represents the diastolic pressure. The measurement should be taken in a fairly brief period of times; prolonged pressure of the cuff is irritating to the patient and will vitate the readings. Re-checking if necessary, should be done only a few minutes after complete deflation of the cuff. (Some times, as the cuff is deflated sound are heard at a certain level they may disappear as pressure falls and reappear at a still lower level). This : “Silent gap” may cause error in reading.
9. The urine (passed in the presence of the examiner) should be examined and the results recorded. Where a Medical Board finds sugar present in a candidate’s urine by the usual chemical test the Board will processed with the examination with all its other aspects and will also specially note any signs or symptoms suggestive of diabetes. If except for the glycosuria the Board finds the candidate conforms to the standards of medical fitness required they may pass the candidate “fit” subject to the glycosuria being non-diabetic and the Board will refer the case to a specified specialist in medicine who has hospital and laboratory facilities at his disposal. The Medical Specialist will carry out whatever examination clinical and laboratory test he considers necessary including a standard blood sugar tolerance test, and will submit his opinion to the Medical Board upon which the Medical Board will base its final opinion “fit” or “unfit”. The candidate will not be required to appear in person before the Board on the second occasion. To exclude the effects of medication it may be necessary to retain a candidate for several days in hospital under strict supervision.
10. A woman candidate who as a result of tests is found to be pregnant of 12 weeks standing or over, should be declared temporarily unfit until the confinement is over. She should be re-examined for fitness certificate six weeks after the date of confinement subject to the production of a medical certificate of fitness from registered medical practitioner.
11. The following additional points should be observed:
(a) That the candidates hearing in each ear is good and that there is no sign of disease of the ear. In case it is defective the candidate should be got examined by he ear specialist, provided that if the defect in a hearing is remediable by operation or by use of hearing aid. A candidate cannot be declared unfit on that account provided he/she has not progressive disease in the ear. The following are the guidelines for the medical examination authority in this regard.
(1) Marked or total deafness in one ear other for being normal.
Fit for non-technical jobs if the deafness is up to 30 decible in higher frequency.
(2) Perceptive deaf ness in both ear in which some improvement is possible by a hearing aid.
Fit in respect of both technical and non technical jobs if the deafness is up to 30 decibles in speech frequencies of 1000 to 4000 HZ.
(3) Perforation of tympanic membrane of central or Marginal type.
One ear normal other ear perforation of tympanic membrane present temporarily unfit.
Under improved condition of ears surgery a candidate with marginal or other perforation in both ears should be given a chance by declaring him temporarily unfit and then he may be considered under 4 (ii) below.
(ii) Marginal drastic perforation in both cars-unfit.
(iii) Central perforation in both ears-temporarily unfit.
(4) Ears with Mastoid cavity sub normal hearing on one side/on both side.
Either ear normal hearing other ear Mastoid cavity Fit for both technical/ non-technical jobs.
(ii) Mastoid cavity of both side & Unfit for technical jobs Fit for non-technical jobs if hearing improves to 30 Decibles in either ear with or without hearing aid.
(5) Persistently discharging ear operated/ un-operated.
Temporarily unfit for both technical and non-technical job.
(6) Chronic inflammatory allergic condition of nose with or without hony deformities of nasal septum.
A decision will be taken as per circumstances of individual cases.
(ii) If deviated nasal septum is present with symptoms, Temporarily unfit.
(7) Chronic inflammatory conditions of tonsils and or Larynx.
Chronic Inflammatory conditions tonsils and or Larynx-Fit.
(ii)Hoarseness of voice severe degree if present then-Temporarily unfit.
(8) Benign or locally malignant Tumours of ENT.
Benign Tumours – Temporarily unfit.
(ii) Malignant Tumours – Unfit.
(9) Otoscilerosis
If the hearing is within 30 decibles after operation with the help of hearing aid-fit.
(10) Congenital defects of ear, nose or throat.
It not interfering with function-Fit.
(ii) Stutterirg of sever degree-Unfit.
(11) Nasal Poly unfit.
Temporarily unfit.
(b) that his/her speech is without impediment;
(c ) that his/her teeth are in good order and that he/she is provided with dentures where necessary for effective mastication (well filled teeth will be considered as sound);
(d) that chest is well-formed and his chest expansion sufficient; and that his heart and lungs are sound;
(e) that there is no evidence of any abdominal disease;
(f) that he is not ruptured;
(g) that he does not suffer from hydrocele, a severe degree of vericose veins or piles;
(h) that his limbs, hand and feet are well formed and developed and that there is free and perfect motion of all his joint;
(i) that he is not ruptured; disease;
(j) that there is no congenital malformation or defect;
(k) that he does not bear traces of active or chronic disease pointing to an impaired constitution;
(l) that he bears marks of efficient vaccination; and
(m) that he is free from communicable disease.
12. Radiographic examination of the chest for detecting any abnormality of the heart and lungs, which may not be apparent ordinary physical examination will be restricted to only such candidates who are declared finally successful at the concerned Indian Forest Service Examination.
The on of the Chairman of the Central Standing Medical Board (conducting the medical examination of the concerned candidate) about the fitness of the candidate shall be final.
When any defect is found it must be noted in the certificate the medical examiner should state his opinion whether or not it is likely to interfere in the efficient performance of the duties which will be required of the candidate.
In case of doubt regarding health of a candidate the Chairman of the Medical Board may consult a suitable Hospital Specialist to decide the issue of fitness or unfitness of the candidate for Government Service e.g. if a candidate is suspected to be suffering from any mental defect or aberration, the Chairman of the Board may consult a Hospital Psychiatrist/ Psychologist, etc.
NOTE : Candidates are warned that there is no right of appeal from Medical Board special or standing appointed to determine their fitness for the above service. If, however, Government are satisfied on the evidence produced before them of the possibility of an error of judgement in the decision of the first Board, it is open to Government to allow an appeal to second Board, Such evidence should be submitted within one month of the date of the communication in which the decision of the first Medical Board is communicated to the candidate, otherwise no request for an appeal to a second Medical Board will be considered.
If any medical certificate, produced by a candidate as a piece of evidence about the possibility of an error of judgement, in the decision of the first Board, the certificate will not be taken into consideration unless it contains a note by the medical practitioner concerned to the effect that it has been given in full knowledge of the fact that the candidate has already been rejected as unfit for service by the Medical Board.
Medical Board’s Report
The following intimation is made for the guidance of the Medical Examiner:-
1. The standard of Physical fitness to be adopted should make due allowance for the age and length of service, if any of the candidate concerned.
No person will be deemed qualified for admission to the Public Service who shall not satisfy Government or the appointing authority, as the case may be that he has no disease constitutional affliction, or bodily infirmity unfitting him, or likely to unfit him for that service.
It should be understood that the question of fitness involves the future as well as the present and that one of the main objects of medical examination is to secure continuous effective service, and in the case of candidates for permanent appointment to prevent early pension or payments in case of premature death. It is at the same time to be noted that the question is one of the likelihood of continuous effective service and that rejection of a candidate need not be advised on account of the presence of defect which is only a small proportion of cases is found to interfere, with continuous effective service.
A lady doctor will be co-opted as a member of the Medical Board whenever a woman candidate is to be examined.
The report of the Medical Board should be treated as confidential.
In case where a candidate is declared unfit for appointment in the Government Service the grounds for rejection may be communicated to the candidate in broad terms without giving minute details regarding the defects pointed out by the Medical Board.
In case where a Medical Board considers that a minor disability disqualifying a candidate for Government service can be cured by a treatment (medical or surgical) a statement to that effect should be recorded by the Medical Board. There is no objection to a candidate being informed of the Board’s opinion to this effect by the appointing authority and when a cure has been effected it will be open to the authority concerned to ask for another Medical Board.
In the case of candidate who are to be declared Temporarily unfit the period specified for reexamination should not ordinarily exceed six months of the Maximum. On re-examination after the specified period these candidates should not be declared temporarily unfit for a further period but a final decision in regard to their fitness for appointment or otherwise should be given.
(a) candidate’s Statement and declaration
The candidate must make the statement required below prior to his Medical examination and must sign the Declaration appended thereto. Their attention is specially directed to the warning contained in the Note below :-
1. State your Name in full …………………………………………
(in block letters)
2. State your age and birth place ………………………………..
(a) Do you belong to Scheduled Tribes or to races such as Gorkhas, Nepalese, Assamese, Meghalaya Tribals, Ladakhese, Sikkimese, Bhutanese, Gharwalis, Kumaonis, Nagas and Arunachal Pradesh. Whose average Height is distinctly lower? Answer ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ and if the answer is “Yes” state the name of tribe/race.
3. (a) Have you ever had small pox, intermittent or any other fever, enlargement or suppuration of glands, spitting of blood, asthama, heart disease, lung disease, fainting attacks rhuematism, appendicitis ?
OR
(b) Any other disease or accident requiring confinement to bed and medical or surgical treatment.
4. Have you suffered from any ………………………………. form of nervousness due to over work or any other cause?
5. Furnish the following particulars concerning your family:-
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
Father’s age if living and state of health
Father’s age at death and cause of death
No. of brother living their age and state of health
No. of brothers dead their age and cause of death
Mother’s age if living and state of health
Mother’s age at death and cause of death
No. of sisters living, their age and state of health
No. of sisters dead, their age and cause of death
6. Have you been examined by ………………………………… Medical Board before ?
7. If answer to the above is ‘Yes’ . ………………………………
please state what Services you were examined for ?
8. Who was the examining authority ? ……………………….
9. When and where was the Medical ………………………….
Board held.
10. Result of the Medical Board ……………………………….. examination, if communicated to you or if known.
11. All the above answers are to be best of my knowledge & belief, true and correct and I shall be liable for action under law for any material infirmity in the information furnished by me or suppression of relevant material information. The furnishing of false information or suppression of any factual information would be a disqualification and is likely to render me unfit for employment under the Government. If the fact that false information has been furnished or that there has been suppression o(any factual information comes to notice at any time during my service would be liable to be terminated.
Candidate’s signature
Signed in my presence
Signature of the Chairman of the Board
PROFORMA-I
Report of Medical Board on (name of candidate) physical examination.
1. General Development; Good Fair����.. Poor Nutrition ������ Thin ���. Average ���. Obese ���. Height ����. Best Weight �������.. When? ���� Any recent change in Weight ����.. Temperature ��������..
2. Girth of chest :-
(1) After full inspiration
(2) After full expiration
Skin: Any obvious disease
3. EYES:-
(1) Any disease …………………..
(2) Night blindness …………………..
(3) Defect in colour vision �����..
(4) Field of vision …………��..
(5) Visual acuity …………………..
(6) Fundus Examination ………………….
Activity of vision
Naked eye
With glasses
Strength of glasses
Sph.
Axix
Cy.
Distant Vision
R.E.
L.E.
Near Vision
R.E.
L.E.
Hypermetropia Vision
R.E.
L.E.
4. Ears : Inspection ��������.. Hearing; Right Ear ������� Left Ear ��������..
5. Glands ��������.. Thyroid ��������..
6. Condition of teeth ……………………………
7. Respiratory System; reveal. Does Physical examination anything abnormal in the respiratory organs
If yes, explain fully
8. Circulatory System
(a) Heart, Any organic lesions? ��������.. Rate Standing ��������..
After hopping 25 times ��������..
2 minutes after hopping ��������..
(b) Blood Pressure: Systolic Diastolic
9. Abdomen: Girth Tenderness
Hernia ��������..
(a) Palpable Liver ������� Spleen��������. Kidneys ����� Tumours
(b) Haemorrhoids ��������.. Fistula ��������..
10. Nervous System : Indication of nervous or mental disability ………………………….
11. Loco-Motor System: Any abnormality ��������..
12. Genito Urinary System: Any evidence of Hydrocele, Varicocele etc.
Urine Analysis:
(a) A physical appearance ��������..
(b) Sp. Gr . ��������..
(c) Albumen ��������..
(d) Sugar ………………………………….
(e) Casts …………………………………
(f) Cells …………………………………..
13. Is there anything the health of the candidate likely to render him unfit for the efficient discharge of his duties in the Indian Forest Service ?
NOTE : In case of a female candidate, if it is found that she is pregnant of 12 weeks standing or over she should be declared temporarily unfit, vide Regulation 10.
14. Has he been found qualified in all respects for the efficient and continuous discharge of duties in the Indian Forest Service?
Note (I) : The Board should record their findings under one of the following three categories
(i) Fit …………………………
(ii) Unfit on account of …………………………
(iii) Temporarily unfit on account of ……………………….
Note (II) : The candidate has not undergone chest X-RAY test. In view of this, the above findings are not final and are subject to the report on chest X-Ray test.
Place:
Date:
Chairman,
Signature Member
Member
Seal of the Medical Board
PROFORMA II
Candidate’s statement/Declaration
1. State you Name:
(in block letter)
2. Roll No.
Candidate’s Signature
Signed in my presence
Signature of the Chairman of the Board
To be filled-in by the Medical Board
Note : The Board should record their findings under one of the following three categories in respect of chest X-ray test of the candidate.
Name of the candidate …………………………..
(i) Fit
(ii) Unfit on account of
(iii) Temporarily unit on account of
Place:
Date:
Chairman
Signature
Member
Member
Seal of the Medical Board
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Thanks a lot Chandu!! I just need one clarification. It states: “The total amount of Myopia (including the cylinder) shall not exceed – 8.00 D.” Is it -8.00 D for each eye or both eyes combined?
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no idea…maybe u can ask an eye specialist
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Chandu
What is the exam date of IFS 2013
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Sir
UPSC has not declared the date yet. The 2013 timetable says “to be announced later”. Maybe some major changes are expected in the IFoS exam.
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Hello Chandu, can you provide the link of above information about Physical standards for IFOS.
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i called IFS section of UPSC… they told me it will on 28th december…. hop it turns true. best of luck to all who appeared……..
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any idea regarding cut off
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@chloroplast
see appendix III of this link http://www.moef.nic.in/legis/ifs/exam.html
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these rules were framed in 2001….likely to be changed with the new notification
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legitimate information regarding delay in ifs 2013 date-
d reason why upsc has not declared dates fr 2013 ifs is dat dey want to give enough spacing b\w indian engineering service xam and ifs ,as many students appear in both ies and ifs
ies wil be held at 28 june nd if ifs is held around 14 july,students hardly get a time to prepare after ies fr ifs
same is d scenario fr ias pre held in may last ,ias aspirants sitting in ifs get arnd 1 or 1nd hlf month aftr ias pre which now does nt hav optional subject in pre , it bcoms difficult to cover both opionals aftr ias pre fr ifs
hence upsc is planning to conduct ifs in september,but no decision has been taken so far regarding dis issue, if u look at upsc calendar 2013 ,dere r only 2 months were ifs 10 day schedule can be adjusted,eithe july or september,both months r left vacant nd ifs could be held in either july or september,moreover its shifted below cds xam ,cds 2 xam wil be on 8 september nd may be after cds 2 we may hav ifs xam
caution——-prepare as per july schedule only nt as per septmbr becoz nothing has been deceided offiocially
nd fr god sake dont spread rumors of pattern change., d only change u may xpect is xpansion in eligibility criteria as iifm graduates may be allowed to sit frm dis time
dont just jump into silly conclusions ,
i hope no body wil hav any anxiety regrding delay in date declaration fr ifs 2013
live fearless nd njoy ur journey towards ifs 2013
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ifs cut off will be in d range of 590-620 fr general category,no matter watever students claim fr der marks,last yr it was in d vicinity of 600 fr general,i met a guy of obc category in ias mains 2012 who scored 570 in written in ifs 2011 nd got a cal in obc category in ifs
so my take on cut off-
general-590-620
obc-560-590
st\sc –no idea
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One of the Best Forum for IFoS aspirants ……..
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Now it has been more than 5 months. And some rumours are doing rounds, that the result will be out in second week of February. Delay breeds fear, and fear provides atmosphere for rumour mongers to play their sport. Hope that UPSC will help dispel all the fears by bringing the result as early as possible.
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lets hope for the best
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If UPSC doesn’t declare the result within this week (as claimed in the notification), it is bound to be declared in Feb…as they did last year. It’s very disturbing. The very thought of ‘result’ is sufficient to ruin an entire day. Self-satisfying calculation of marks adds to the existing worry. UPSC should take a note of mental harm that it is causing. It always gave explanations of ‘load’ of answer papers for the delay. With the introduction of ‘qualifying marks’ in gk, I don’t think UPSC should give a reason of the ‘load’. Let’s see.
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delayed results = case for mental agony= case for NHRC…….
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can anyone tell-
1. Is B.pharmacy or M.pharmacy candidates eligible for IFS? as I have completed my M.Pharmacy but I didn’t see the pharmacy in eligibility criteria.
2. I am thinking to opt zoology and chemistry as my subjects.Shall I go for these two subjects?
3. From where I get the preparative material for GS and these two subjects?as I don’t have strong background in GS
4. If any1 can send me the material for these 3 things on my id- hanupriya.yadav@gmail.com, I will be very grateful to him/her.
Pls help me out.
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hi…there….if anybody want material for geology, mechanical engg (both from brilliant) and forestry(from dehradun institute) FOR IFS. contact Mr.priyadarshan on +919700439452
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Final Result – CMS Examination 2012 Is Out
Thank God, UPSC is on doing something 🙂
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Every time UPSC declares its results on Friday evening. This means we have to wait for every Friday till 8th Feb at least with pounding heartbeats!!!!!
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bored!
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upsc… a super-institution with a colonial feature…
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Best of luck everybody
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result is on 8th FEB (as told by UPSC fellow)
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these ppl tell different dates every time!
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any idea regarding cut off …..gen. cat…guyzz
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may be around 600
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Hello,
anybody suggest me books for agricultural engineering( for IFS Exam)
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Hi
Any guesses when would IFS 2013 exam be held??
will it be in july or later than that??
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cant say anything but it seems that IFS will be conducted in September 2013 …..
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Any idea about IFOS 2012 …. Result …?
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after 2nd week of feb ….most probably
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Thank you Deepak …
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@all
i have just started preparing for IFS 13 with botany and zoo as optionals.
I dont know whether i will be able to finish syllabus or not.
Can anyone tell me how much time will it take to cover botany zoo gk??
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You require minimum 5 months considering following points
1)You have got all relevent material with u right now.
2)u are dedicated to give 14 hrs a day (qualitative)
thats it……………
Work hard
Party even harder
you are winner until you loose………….
Fight it out till the end………..
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well said…
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i don’t think ifos written results would be announced even in february. the written results of indian engineering services exam which was held more than a month before ifos have not yet been announced. the notification for ies 2013 exam as per upsc website is 26th march 2013. ies written results will most probably be announced in february and personality test will be held in feb/march. so, chances of ifos written results to be announced in february is bleak since many engineering graduates write both the exams (since they are eligible for both), so personality test of both the exams cannot be conducted together.
upsc too may be aware of this, so don’t expect the written results of ifos to be announced in feb. personality tests of two different exams conducted by upsc can only be held together if a person giving one exam becomes
ineligible for the other exam, like personality test of combined medical services and indian engineering services can be held together, since one exam can be written only by mbbs graduates and the other by only engineers. so, a person giving one exam automatically becomes ineligible for the other, but that is not the case here. i think ifos written results may be announced after civil service mains written results. the ias mains result is expected to be announced after ies written results( may be when ies personality test is going on), since personality tests of ies and ias cannot be held together again because engineers are eligible for both exams. so, the wait for ifos written results will get long and long.
this year ifos exam will be held in september only and not july since ies exam is slated to be held from 28th to 30th june 2013, so it is highly difficult for students to prepare for ifos exam within the next ten days. since, ifos exam is to be held in september, therefore upsc changed the exam schedule of ies exam from 1st week of june to last week of june.
i hope i am correct.
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prelims 2013 notification has been postponed
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UPSC cares a lot for engineers…isn’t it?
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UPSC is trying our patience…..
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i think Ifos will be held on September and secondly result will be declared on second week of Feb but its chance is only 99 percent and what are ur views about Ias i think syllabus will remain same.but one think i am not able to understand why upsc not mention date of ifos 2013.
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Please suggest state level forest exams.
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koi nayee news ifos 2012 ke result ke baare me
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When will the results for IFoS 2012 written exam be out?
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@All…….. Guys here is some good news regarding IFoS 2012 Written results. According to the sources, under secretary IFoS section of UPSC, has asked to check the website on monday (11th feb.) for possible results and DAP dates. Best of luck to all.
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This is really good news …
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Thanks Aristocrat…..All the best everybody……
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Any idea abt cut off
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What vl be the cutoff this for reservation candidates
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IFS exam is probably in sept as upsc is planning to inroduce biotech in optional papers……
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wow..that’s a good news…biotech can be a scoring optional.
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hello and hi to all the visitors I want to know that to whom you ask about the IFS exam regarding adding biotech as a new subject ? how much you are sure about that news or its your assumption?.plz rpl me because its help those student who have biotech as their main stream in their post graduation. and definitely its scoring also
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result for ifos 2012 written are out. copy paste this link in your browser and go to the examinations and see the written results below cds exam written results. the link is 203.94.243.90. the original site of upsc is not opening
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Anybody qualified for interview??? I haven’t this time…
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guys..i am in….!!!!! roll no 1776
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Me too! I guess we need to talk about the interview process a little now?
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congrts 4 all selected candidates,any news about da time table of IFS2013.plz share
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Guys IFOS 2012 result declared …
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Congrats …but Guys upsc site is not responding,what is the cutoff..? Can any body post ur marks.?
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Congrats to all the guys who did it….:)
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@ Chandu sir
first of all congrats.
Can you please guide me regarding study material to be refer for GS?
Aani 5 mahinyat sagla syllabus gs+zoo+geology purn karne shakya hoil ka??
Thanks
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@shreya …..waz ur opt…..mine r bot. N zoology…..can v b in touch….sahilkesar87@yahoo.com…me 2 didn’t qualify dis time……
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@Sahil sir
i have started preparing for IFS with zoo and geology…
If you allow we can get in touch…my email id is
patilaniket0909@rediffmail.com
thanks
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Plz anyone reply me…h
ow to check my ifos results …upsc website is down since yesterday …wil upsc send any msg r mail to selectd candidates.?
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copy paste this link to your browser 203.94.243.90. the original site of upsc is not opening. I actually got this from one of the comments in this thread only. Good luck.
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Thank u shreya …am nt qualified this time…what r ur optional subjcts.
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My optionls r animal hus+zoology
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congrats chandu and shreya for qualifying for the personality test. i am very sure both of u will make it in the final merit list. god bless both of u and best of luck for the personal interview.
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do we have to send anything with the daf online form. it says enclosures but guidelines say nothing to be sent now.
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Congrats to all who are favoured in upsc result list…Kindly share your interview experience and marks …..
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hey guys can any one tell from where to get brilliant notes for the foresty.
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prabith,priya,tentu,rahul,aristrocrat,vipin..did u guys qualify..everyone pls update if they qualified or not.congrats to successfull ppl..others don’t loose heart n prepare for 2013 exam..when will the notification cme?
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can anyone tell me where is cape ramos.
@prabith need ur contact no or id
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@saras can u give uor id want to talk to u. mine optional are same so need some help. mine id is dr.sandeep6788@gmail.com
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Hey guys,
Has anyone tried to register for filling the DAF form. I am just getting waiting for the server message, it is not responding. Did anyone else had the similar issue?
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Hey shreya cngrtzz….can u tell me waz ur opt..plz….m waitin 4 ur reply…
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Thanks Sahil, my optionals were Agriculture Engineering and Forestry.
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Congrats Shreya … My optionals are mathematics and chemistry … Could you suggest me some important current affair topics for interview …. In bullet form … it seams we have got very limited time for interview prep..
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shreya try using different browser and clearing the cache. it works then.
Any idea about the enclosures? do we take them on day of the interview or send now only?
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Thanks Ritika. It worked! I haven’t filled the form yet but I do think we need to bring all the documents on the day of interview. Is there a deadline for submitting the DAF?
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Shreya ji , (congratulations for success)
Your one optional is Agri. Engg. Please suggest me books for this subject , you read for ifs prepration.
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Piitm83: I am just thinking of revising the GK and rest will have to see. readings bunch of interviews gave me an impression that questions are very general and we don’t need any special preparation.
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24 feb is last date for DAF. Good luck for interview.
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@ raj ..Hi all .. congrats to all who cleared , Those who are preparing for the next one do it well . pls can some body help me regarding the pattern of interview & when can we know the dates ? I am really tensed as this is my last chance … my mail id preetzskaria@gmail.com
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do not worry feel free and concentrate on interview do not think that it is ur last chance best of luck
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Yes..you are right ! …. Even I am too planning not to read too much … Just going through some current affairs … Basically it’s personality test … That’s not gonna change just by telling few factual answers …
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I sincerely feel that the toughest question of IFOS interview is — WHY DO YOU WANT TO BECOME AN IFS OFFICER ?
For those who are from forestry background, it appears a natural extension of their career. But for Doctor, engineers and other science graduates, IFOS is their choice over their normal career path. Thus, board would like to know rationales behind this particular chosen career.
Sometimes board members listen our answers and frame their opinion about our personality. Sometimes they come up with cross questioning and we have to defend ourselves rationally. A number of time, in the process, we end up contradicting ourselves. This is a pathetic situation.
A number of times, we express our rational basis of becoming an IFS officer but the basis doesn’t fall under the overall ambit of IFOS job profile. This immediately reflects that we are not even clear about operational domain of IFOS.
I think a debate on this would help everyone…
I request from all members of this community to drop your answer for all or any of following question(s)…
1. WHY DO YOU WANT TO BECOME AN IFS OFFICER ?
2. YOU ALREADY HAVE A BRIGHT EDUCATIONAL/ PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND/CAREER , THEN WHY IFS ?
3. WHY SHOULD WE SELECT YOU ?
4. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS JOB ?
5. WHAT ARE THE MAJOR CHALLENGES BEFOR INDIAN FORESTRY AND AS A FOREST OFFICES HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THEM ?
Request you all to share your answers …
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Congrats to all the successful aspirants. Those who could not get through, do not lose heart. Put in more effort with enhanced vigour and zeal.
Those who are appearing for interview, please note that you should go through the websites, http://www.ifs.nic.in and http://www.envfor.nic.in in an extremely thorough manner. Whatever new reports, stats have come up, you should go through them. However, don’t memorise figures. Just get the crux of the report and that’s it.
Also, learn whatever possible about your home state, district and your hobby.
Best wishes!!
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congrats guys…………do wel in final….
gud luck..
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@sandeep
addition of biotech is information from person in service….
Sorry for late reply
but he also said it is advisable to follow previous optionals till UPSC notifies
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Hi Frinds…..First of all congrats for all those people who cleared Written Exam …Is there anybody preparing with optionlas of mechanical engineering and Maths ..
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Anyone filled the DAF?
I called upsc, they told me attested copies of age and education certificates need to be sent by post. but the instructions say otherwise.
Anybody knows whether we need to send attested documents now or not?
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Hi Ritika,
Doesn’t the instructions clearly state NOT to post anything and bring everything on the day of interview. Have you already submitted the online DAF?
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Yes Shreya, I have submitted the online DAF. Its just that the facilitation counter people have confused me but I think we don’t need to send anything for now.
They would have given an address if we had to post anything anyway.
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@ viswam, my optionals are maths, physics
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@ pankaj ,so how is your preparation for maths ..if you like we can have some discussion on maths preparation..where do you belong to..i am from pune..
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i m 4m mandi h.p.,sure we can…
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@shreya n @ ritika …do u think dat coaching is must for ifs…….dis ll b my 3rd attempt..n m really confused weathr I shud take coachin or not……plz. share ur viewpoint,,,,
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@ Sahil- only you can decide whether you need coaching or not. Coaching helps because of competition among batchmates, better notes and the availability of teachers in case of doubts.
But only for IFoS, coaching may not be necessary. However, If ur also going for civils, you should consider coaching.
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Hey Ritika,
What did you finally do about the enclosures section in the DAF. Did you check the documents listed that you will bring for the interview. Also, please keep me posted once you get notification of the interview date. Thanks.
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We need to take the printed DAF on the day of the interview. Keep the attested bunch of the required documents with you. They will keep the attested copies with them and return the original ones (to be required only for the verification)
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CAN ANY ONE HELP ME REGARDING DAF FILLING. THE EDUCATION INFORMATION MODULE HAS A SECTION RELATED TO LANGUAGE DETAILS . MY CONTACT NO IS 9718168543. JYOTI
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Yes Shreya, check the documents that apply for your category and then submit. Keep attested documents and originals ready for the interview day. Bring many photos as they require it.
Will keep you posted about the interview date.
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Thanks Ritika. Send me your cell phone number in case you want to discuss a little about the interview process. My email id is shreya.ti@gmail.com
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hi shreya when is ur interview. mine is on 28th feb.
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Mine is on 27th.
PS: Do we have to submit proof of employment? I haven’t worked in India and I won’t be able to provide the proof, this early.
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26th…..very nervous!!
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dear frnds plz share the interviews
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Any one wid bot. N zoology as opt. Can b in touch….09086257626
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Hello Sahil..Mine options are Zoo and Agri… u can reach me@ 9481453655…
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personality test candidates:
did you send the ‘attestation form’?
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sir,this 2013 will be my 3rd attempt i really dont know whts wrong is going on wid me….sir i just need ur help in answer writing…plz guide me …
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@ Chandu- attestation form has to be sent to the Moef naa. There is still time. we have to send it within 15 days. i have not sent it yet.
have you?
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hi..friends this is sarayu i have completed my msc environmental sciences now am preparing for IFS please join with me my optionals are botany and zoology… can you suggest me the books?
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hi..friends this is sarayu i have completed my msc environmental sciences now am preparing for IFS please join with me my optionals are botany and zoology… can you suggest me the books?
my mail id devisarayu7@gmail.com
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hello sarayu…read the basic Degree books… Genetics- BD Singh useful for both Botany & Zoo- Paper 2
Cellular and Molecular Bio- Verma & Agarwal- Paper 1 & 2
For paper 1 Noncordata/Invertibrata- Jordan & verma.
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Guyz any idea abt mark lists of candidates 2012__how much time it wud take
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Shreya ji ,
Your one optional is Agri. Engg. Please suggest me books for this subject you read for ifs prepration(vcontactbpl@yahoo.in)
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thank you friends….
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hi friends…does anybody has clear idea about IFos 2013 as there are rumours about introduction of preliminary exams this time….
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@chandu. Nice post regarding the medical for IFS. Please could you clear the air about flat feet ? I have been to various forums and nobody has a clear answer to it. This thought is hampering my preparations regularly.(I have flat feet or I think I have). Is it OK to get yourself pre-examined by local doctor to make sure?
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@ritika already 4 days hv gone…it’s better to send it asap. I have not sent it yet.
@chan We need to check it out. If you are opting for armed forces, flat feet does become a problem. Looking at the nature of the service in IFoS, I think flat feet may be problematic, I m not sure though. I asked my friend who is in army. According to him, one needs to have a kind of ‘arc’ in the feet. Sometimes, this arc may be completely occupied with muscles giving it an appearance of flatness (this maybe the case with you. Check it out). Don’t worry. Medical examination for IFoS is not that strict.
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Hey guys,
Any idea about medical and walking test? I hope they notify us via email.
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Shreya, my seniors told me medical will be conducted only after the interview result, i.e. one month after. UPSC sends common letter to all but there is no way they will do medical when some candidates won’t qualify for the final result.
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flat feet guy, do not worry. 🙂 Clear the exam first. medical can come later on. you won’t be disqualified on basis of flat feet as my friend is in service (cleared three years back).
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chandu, don’t fill the form as yet. Because I received letter from upsc today. the attestation form is enclosed. It is better to use this one since it has a stamp. but if you don’t receive then download from website i guess.
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@ritika what kind of stamp does it have?
point no. 9 of the personality test letter says that the walking test and medical examination will be conducted on the NEXT WORKING DAY after the date of the interview. Medical examination will be conducted in one of the hospitals of Delhi. Walking test will be conducted in Delhi zoo. There is a single track of 2.5 km. We (men) hv to make 10 rounds of that track.
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all the best guys those who are attending interviews…..
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hi mine optional are veterinary sc. and zoology. can anybody give me the list of books for zoology only imp. one.
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@sarayu check this book for zoology mentioned by vijay
http://www.4shared.com/get/x02Nkav_/cell_biology_genetics_molecula.html
Cellular and Molecular Bio- Verma & Agarwal
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@sandy
thanks a lot sandy..mine optionals are bot and zoo… for zoology what study material are you following?
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@chandu
Congratulations Chandu!!! this is Sarayu Ifs aspirant
My optionals are bot and zoo can you pls guide me.. i mean can you send me the book list which u hav prepared… pls… any all the best for your interview….
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@ sarayu
thanx a lot!
Botany and Zoology is a good combination. I can tell you abt Botany, as my optionals are Agriculture and Botany. I have already mentioned the books which I referred for botany in my previous post.
Botany books:
1. Text book of botany…by A C Dutta
2. Plant taxonomy …by O P Sharma
3. Plant pathology …by P D Sharma and G N Agrios
4. Microbiology…by Tauro and Kapoor; soil microbiology ..by subbarao.
5. Plant physiology…by pande and sinha + jain publication
6. Embryology…by bhojwani and bhatnagar
7. Plant genetics..by B.D.Singh and Phundan singh
8. Plant breeding…by B.D.Singh and Phundan singh
9. Plant biochemistry…by lehninger
10. Ecology and environment…by P.D.Sharma
11. Economic botany…by S.L.Kocchar.
Go through the syllabus…read selected chapters.
Plant pathology by G N Agrios and plant biochemistry by Lehninger are available as soft copies on http://www.4shared.com
Plan ur study and divide each chapter into suitable parts. Have a daily plan instead of weekly or monthly plan.
All the best!
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@sarayu i m following BT study material and kotpal books for classification rest i have to decide.
anybody having zoology plz give uor valuable suggestion how to prepare it.
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@chandu
Thank you very much chandu….. thanks a lot for ur guidance
ur doing great…. all the very best for ur interview… after your PT jus share your experiences with us…..Do well..!!
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@sandy
hi sandy… i have zoology book list once see this … i have downloaded ths book list from examrace.com and go through once http://www.examrace.com... in that he has given the model papers of ifs and preparation strategy….
1 . Cell and molecular biology- De Robertis, C B Powar
2 . Comparative anatomy of vertebrate zoology- Kent
3 . Animal physiology- H . R. Singh , Vander
4. Biochemistry- Harper, Leninger, Stryer, Rao
5. Embryology- Balinsky , A . K. Berry, Vir Bala Rastogi
6 . Organic evolution -Veer Bala Rastogi
7 . Genetics- P . K . Gupta , Gardner, Ahluwalia , Vir Bala Rastogi
8 . Invertebrates- R. L . Kotpal , Nigam , Jordan
9 . Vertebrates- R. L . Kotpal , Nigam , Jordan and Varma
10 . Ecology- P . D . Sharma , Odum , Vir Bala Rastogi and MS Jayaraj , Kotpal and Bali
11 . Economic Zoology- Shukla and Upadhaya , Kotpal – Khetrapal -Aggarwal
12 . Ethology- Reena Mathur, Magazines like Science Reporter, Nature
13 . General Zoology- Storer and Usurger
14 . Physiology- H . R . Singh
15 . Evolution -Vir Bala Rastogi
16 . A Dictionary of Entomology- Leftwich
Other Reference Books
1 . Cell and molecular biology- De Robertis + verma aggarwal + gardner for mol . Bio .
2 . Comparative anatomy of vertebrate zoology- Kent or Kardong
3 . Physiology- Ganong /Guyton/Tortora n Derrickson + Eckert ‘ s animal physiology (for reference only) 4. Biochemistry- Harper/ Leninger/Stryer
5. Embryology-Verma n Aggarwal/Vir Bala Rastogi + Gilbert (for reference only)
6 . Evolution -Veer Bala Rastogi + verma n aggarwal
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@ devisarayu i also see this list but its too long and books are very lengthy difficult covers that’s why i want to ask some one who have cleared written or taking coaching.
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@sandy
ok gud sandy …. better to take coaching studymaterial… from ifs aspirants …..
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Those of you who are attending interview.., Pls clarify do we have to submit proof of employment n interview if u r emgloyed in private sector
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Hi all,
can any one provide me required information regarding preparation of g.s.If we follow ncert books,will that serve the purpose or we need to refer some other material.If one observes the questions given in the previous question papers,mainly they are emphasising on environment related questions.In such case which books i need to follow to do well in gs apart from ncert.
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@Chandu:Hi Chandu…I am from AP What are your optionals?…..My options are Zoology&Botany …just wanted to be in touch to share the preparation strategy and all my id: raviprakashbio@gmail.com
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hi..
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hi friends is there any Ifs postal coaching…. i mean for GS ..?
and one more thing how we can get Coaching material of botany and zoology….? is there any book store providing?
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hi…can anybody suggest books for forestry?and give me an idea abt hw this subject is?
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Hello Sudhanshu Sir,
Sir, I want to appear for IFS-2013. My right leg is affected by residual polio. But, I do not fall under PH category as my disability is under 40%. If I will be able to complete 25 km run in prescribed 4 hrs time, whether I will be considered for the service or not? Or, will I be rejected by medical board for being physically unfit for the service?
Eagerly awaiting your response.
Thanks and regards,
Kapil
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Wish you all the very best for all the folks who are attending interviw from tommrow.
“Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them.”
Be Bold and Be strong everything will be concured.once again wish you all the very best..
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Friends I just want to share some quotes here it may be helpful who may browse this website
before their interview..I thought this the only help i can do For those who are attending Interview.
please be relaxed and calm evrything elase will follow you guys..and you are going to rock
1.Remember that the state of your life is the state of your mind. So, free your mind and the rest will follow.”
2.” Even in the storm, don’t stop trying to fly.”
3.Face your past without regret. Handle your present with confidence. Prepare for the future without fear. Keep the faith and drop the fear.
4.No need for miracles to do the impossible If we have beliefs, will, and insistence.”
5.Never lose hope, never give up on your faith, and never STOP believing in your dreams because miracles do happen; you just need to believe in yourself!!”
6.Self-motivation is the key of success. Always follow your mentor’s voice in you.
7.Success and failures are outcomes of action, and action is the outcome of mindset; therefore success is the outcome of mindset.
Finally I would like to say
Believe in yourself and you can do unbelievable things.”
And wish you all the very best.
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hi this is priyadarshan guys i have got material for forestry and for geology anybody intrested to get these can make a call to me on +91 9700439452
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IFoS Prelim and Main: UPSC SHOCKER
Click to access New%20Scheme_IFSE2013.pdf
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😦 😦 😦 completely against to freshers…..
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Specially for the core science graduates who are not opting Civils but just IFoS…Don’t know what the Core ppl are thinking rt now abt facing the maths based CS(P)….
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this means exam pattern will be like CSAT only 😦 …very short term notice by UPSC…absolutely unacceptable.
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for freshers it is shocking news…. what about lifesciences students … within short period how we will prepare for csat…
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really shocking news 😦 but hope till 9th march notification will come, will clear the doubt but as I think so as comparison to the previous one, this pattern will make our job more difficult and need more hard work …..and wat about the pre exam , its of objective type??? adn wat is the course for that??? new pattern will increases the seats for IFos or it remain same ???
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and I think so that level of IAS is very high as compare to IFoS…so the paper will be same for pre-exam. ..so i think it will make more difficult to prepare within 2 month time period …………..M really very confused wat to do not to do …….because time bahut fast ja raha hai aur age factor b hai
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NEW SCHEME OF EXAMINATION FOR INDIAN FOREST SERVICE
EXAMINATION, 2013
The salient features of the scheme are as under:-
(i) Indian Forest Service (IFoS) Exam will be of a two-tier examination similar to that
of the Civil Services Examination. The Civil Services (Preliminary) Examination
shall serve as the Screening Test for both the Civil Services as well as the Indian
Forest Service Examinations.
(ii) Notification of Indian Forest Service Examination will be done simultaneously with
the Civil Services Examination. The application form will be called as Combined
Online application Form for Civil Services and Indian Forest Service
Examinations. In the notifications for both Indian Forest Service Examination as
well as Civil Services Examination, candidates will be asked to exercise their
option to either choose Civil Services or Indian Forest Service or both, as per their
eligibility conditions.
(iii) There will be no change in the eligibility of the candidates in the Indian Forest
Service Examination.
(iv) The candidates who will be applying for Indian Forest Service, Civil Services or
both will be asked to appear in the Civil Services (Preliminary) Examination which
will be a Screening Test for short-listing the candidates for Indian Forest Service
and Civil Services (Main) Examinations. Otherwise these two examinations will be
separate in all respects.
(v) Based on the performance of the candidates in the CS(P) Examination, the
candidates for the Indian Forest Service as well as the Civil Services examinations,
will be short-listed separately for the IFS(Main) as well as the Civil Services (Main)
Examination. The same principle of short listing 12 to 13 times the number of posts
could be used at this stage. However, the criteria for selection of candidates for
Civil Services (Main) Examination and Indian Forest Service (Main) Examination
will be different – based on relevant functional matrices. The Indian Forest Service
(Main) Examination and the Civil Services (Main) Examination could then be
conducted on different dates in order to accommodate candidates who may be
short-listed separately for both the examinations. The interviews and merit list for
both these examinations could be drawn up separately.
2. The tentative schedule for IFoS Examination, 2013 is as under:-
(i) Date of Notification : 9th March, 2013
(ii) Last date of submission of online application form : 8th April, 2013
(iii) Date of Civil Services (Preliminary) Exam for
screening of candidates for IFoS (Main) Exam,2013 : 26th May, 2013
(iv) Date of commencement of IFoS (Main) Exam : 21st September, 2013
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This is really unfair ….UPSC should have given the notification atleast 6-8 months prior……
This isnt a fair game…
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this is shocking changes in exam pattern…..
anybody here preparing IFS exam from karnataka….?
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Tell me veer..Vijay here from Bangalore…
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if anybody knows ifs prelims syllabus please post it…..
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We(Life science graduates) dont even know what exactly is the syllabus..but we are forced to prepare for what we dont like from childhood 😦
@Sarayu:Its Not just IFS prelims….Its the Same CSAT exam of Civils which is the same for IFoS too..Please see below for syllabus.
The Syllabus for UPSC CSAT (Civil Services Aptitude Test):
Paper I – (200 marks) Duration: Two hours
– Current events of national and international importance
– History of India and Indian National Movement
– Indian and World Geography – Physical, Social, Economic geography of India and the World.
– Indian Polity and Governance – Constitution, Political System, Panchayati Raj, Public Policy, Rights Issues, etc.
– Economic and Social Development – Sustainable Development, Poverty, Inclusion, Demographics, Social Sector Initiatives, etc.
– General issues on Environmental ecology, Bio-diversity and Climate Change – that do not require subject specialization
– General Science.
Paper II- (200 marks) Duration: Two hours
– Comprehension
– Interpersonal skills including communication skills
– Logical reasoning and analytical ability
– Decision making and problem solving
– General mental ability
– Basic numeracy (numbers and their relations, orders of magnitude etc.) (Class X level), Data interpretation (charts, graphs, tables, data sufficiency etc. -Class X level)
– English Language Comprehension skills (Class X level).
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Civils ppl are trying for this CSAT from ages and most of the ppl must have been already completed their preparartion for CSAT and preparing for Mains…Completely fetching for them..as they will choose both Civils as well as IFoS while filling the application from now onwords…..The Most possible scenario for Serious Civils candidates is ‘If not civils….it is IFos’.
……..and waiting if there is any more update for change in civils pattern which may helps for IFoS aspirants…
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@Ravi, ypou are absolutely correct…for civils aspirants its two way benifit and only for IFos guys its a bit hard time
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i dont think we(ifs aspi) will get a tough compitetion frm csat candidates,,,,,,as the eligibility criteria has not been changed…….so…its just an elimination for non serious candidates…..and optionals are also different frm cs and ifs mains exams………so no worries….be positive thar we will becompeting wid less number of ppl in mains…….work hard.all the best
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@Priyadarshan:You may be correct but not 100% …..May be we will be facing to less number of Ppl in mains but facing horrible competition in Prelims with CS guys….And what ever i am saying here is by keeping Life science ppl in mind….
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Hello All,
Please let me know if there is any good crash course available or yet to start for CSAT in Hyd.Guys plz help and respond!
At the end of the day we can tell only one thing to ourselves….. Guys be positive and lets start preparing more just to enter into Gate(Prelims) which is there before the Main Door(IFoS mains) of the Dream House(IFoS).
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those who are eligible for ifos (includes engineers, science graduate) and their no will be around 1 lakh will obviously tick both ifs and ias option. this is serious setback for those candidates who are preparing only for ifs
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total mind blank…..absolute shock for veterinary,agriculture,forestry background people
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this is a surprise!!
1). The number of candidates to be selected for IFoS mains) will be 12 to 13 times that of the notified posts….say, around 1000 (85×12 or 85×13…the number of posts may increase or decrease).
2) i.e We have to be at least within 500-600 of the CS(pre) merit list in order to secure ourselves…coz many (well prepared) science background people would like to give it a chance!!!
Difficult job…but do not worry..prelims is very simple…and…will be made very simple (the thing is, we have to be at the top) …practice comprehension and GMA questions on a daily basis.
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@chandu
how was ur personality test?
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@chandu
most of the questions given in gs paper 1(from 2011 onwards) are 4TF type (that is four statements are given, we have to identify which one of the given statements is/are correct. like option(a) 1 and 2 only, option(b) 2 and 4 only, option(c) 1,3 and 4 and option (d) 1 and 3 only. this makes life very difficult as clarity of concepts is required in attempting most of these questions. such question needs to be read again and again, otherwise marking a wrong answer is guaranteed. same is the case with paper 2 which deals with the area of general comprehension(not english language comprehension), where most of the questions are of 4TF type. the weightage of marks for these passages has increased from 2011 to 2012 and the trend is expected to continue. almost half of the second paper is going to be dominated by these lengthy passages. the given options provide no help either. rest of the areas of paper 2 seems easy (considering paper 2 of gs of 2011 and 2012) but regular practice is needed in order to solve them within a limited time frame. paper 1 has always been unpredictable and weightage of marks given to various areas may change very year.
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the introduction of prelims should be the final change in ifs for years to come, last year they ban agri- forestry combinataion, this year prelims.
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please can someone here if has forestry as an option..please provide me the booklist
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This is totally wrong and seduced step that upsc has taken in hast for changing IFoS exam pattern 2013,,as upsc has not proclaimed earlier nor mention in their official site and upsc calender and cheated innocent guys who prepairing IFos exam from long time.Its really a shocking news for any student who prepairing for IFoS exam 2013,,,,,,,,,
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@virat Personality test was okay….it was IMG Khan’s panel for me…he asked many questions which were opinion-based. Members focused on biodata. Let’s see…
you are right. CSAT not only needs clarity of concepts, but also Speed…the speed with which you solve the questions matters a lot. ”Practice” everyday…key to success.
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when will the final result be out? anybody has any idea?
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walking test and medical test will be over by 8th…so most probably the result maybe on 8th March….or 15th march.
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Haunting feelings of failure ….
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when do we expect the result?
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suppose 2.5 lakh student sit for prelims 2013 and half of them are eligible for both ias and ifs( science graduate and engineers). now suppose there are 12000 (1000*12)seats and 960 (80*12) seats for ias and ifs respectively in prelims. considering every one out of two candidate has tick both ias and ifs option, for selection into ifs mains a candidate has to get 1920 arrank in the prelims. so it easier to crack ias prelims than ifs prelims—– its only my view
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@les miserable….Than i think people by this time has started to get their cast cerstificates…..bit difficult for GM candidates,,:)
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Guys & gals ifos 2013 notification is out on upsc website 🙂
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@everyone
thank god!!!. no minimum qualifying marks for gk in ifos 2013 mains exam from this year due to ifos prelims. non serious candidates will not waste an attempt this year since there are only 4 attempts available.
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@ virat but wat u think is not the level of Gk increases ??? IFos GK have the limits whereas the IAS Gk is limitless ..I think it make the exam more harder than the previous one
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problem is not exam , prob is competition. in IAS they qualify more than 5000 students may be half of them are science graduate mens they’ll be elligible for ifos. qualifying list will overlape for IAS and IFOs. it’s crazy. hee haa haa hee haa.
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@sandeep
if u see the pattern of last two years question years of ias prelims of gs paper 1, questions asked are more factual and not current events oriented to give rural candidates a level playing field. this trend is expected to continue for the coming years. the current events questions (which are the applied aspects of the concepts u studied during prelims) is tested during ur mains exam which ifos students need not prepare. kindly read the syllabus of gs paper 1 and understand the boundaries of the same. sort out the questions asked topic wise( in the last two years) from the syllabus given. you will find that entire syllabus is covered in the first paper and many questions have been asked from conventional areas such as history, geography , polity , economics, general science, public policy, demographics etc.
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@rushi
ifos prelims is a screening test only. ifos mains is going to be held on 21st september and ias mains from mid november. the ias mains syllabus has also changed from this year. it would to tedious for ias science aspirants to prepare for ifos and ias mains together after giving their prelims exam which have entirely different syllabi. so, instead of ruining an attempt for both the exams, they may seriously prepare for only one exam with single minded devotion.
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statistics shows that Out of 59,530 candidates who had applied for the Indian Forest Service Examination, 2010, 10,389 (17.5%) candidates appeared in the written examination held in July, 2010. On the basis of results of the written examination, 237 candidates were declared qualified for Personality Test. Of the 237 candidates, 236 candidates attended the Personality Test, of whom 85 candidates were recommended by the Commission for appointment to the Indian Forest Service 2010.
so, the real mess created by UPSC is this….how can you be so sure that all 1000 candidates screened-in in the IFoS (mains) would appear for the same? UPSC should think abt it.
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@chandu
since the 1000 or 1050 students who will be qualified for ifos mains are the serious candidates, therefore, most of them will be giving the written exam. even if few of them do not give the exam, still not a problem since the no of seats to be filled is 85 only and not 1050!!!.
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to clear ifs prelims, a candidate has to get around 2000 rank in prelims. this top talented chunk of candidates will most probably prepare for ias exam….ifs mains will have less competition…. but we have to secure a rank within 2000….herculean task
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actually statistics is not a issue and what upsc think is of no use to us… the thing which is of importance is that is it possible to clear prelims within this short time ? CSAT is not a big deal but the main problem is GK of 200 marks in prelims. because as for IFoS point of view for geography class 11th and 12th NCERT is sufficient is it same for IAS prelims ??? and is there any notes package available any where in market, which cover all the necessary aspects for prelims???
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@ virat yaa I see the pattern of previous years papers but its not necessary that this time the pattern will be same so, we have to do current portion also and mainly international issues which have their effect on India. which is of very minimum weightage in IFoS paper previously.
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How much min marks do we need to score in csp to be on safer side for ifs??
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I wanted to highlight the exceptionally low figure….only 17.5% of the applied candidates appeared for the exam! yes, the main issue is the preliminary exam.
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@sandeep
yes, the weightage of marks assigned to various areas may change but the gs paper 1 would be more factual than current events oriented to give equal chance to rural background candidates. it’s a fact.
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areeee man………!!! you are beating around bushes 🙂 now I asked you how we will clear it ??? you are the most eligible and near to the line of success chandu so tell us as per your experience ..because if I thinked that I clear the IAS then why i adopted IFoS 🙂 its above my level dear
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I have few points:
1. CSAT has been introduced to test the general aptitude of a candidate. This issue was raised by Kala committee. I don’t think we should differentiate between GS(pre) of civil service and that of IFoS. The question paper is very horizontal. It never goes deep into the concepts. You would find that in degree exams.
2. The main segregation shall be done in the mains exam. GS (mains) paper of IFoS and that of civil services will have totally different objectives.
3. So it is very wrong to say that IAS GS will be above or below our level. Yes, at the preliminary stage there shall be a fair balance, just to test the aptitude of a person. The main problem here will be the cut throat competition!
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we need to b in top 500 ranks in cs pre fr ifos … so i hope cutoff wud b above 270…
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chandru u are right dis time dere wud b no comptition in ifos mains… only 1000 who qualify wud b having just one optional in cs mains nd dey wud be definately nt risk cs fr ifos… nd mazority r choosing dere art subject in cs dis time… as v need to give a lot more time fr gs… its 1000 marks nw in cs….. upsc has really ruined its ifos exam… nd wud realise wen just 500 appearing fr it mains nd it selects 230 f it fr interview….
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yaa chandu your are right …….can anyone tell me the books for GK pre paper ???
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@ people who appeared in interview
anybody else signed the undertaking and do we need to submit the original certificate now?
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hi to all… i want to know that is a horticulture graduate eligible for IFoS exam? waiting for reply. Thanks
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@ritika… I hv also signed the undertaking for the submission of my masters degree certificate…we need to submit it if we happen to be in the list…the convocation is on 22nd March. If we are not able to produce the original cert, we hv to submit a letter from the concerned university that the convocation has not yet been carried out.
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@dipti I have a frnd who is B.Sc. Hort. We confirmed abt his eligibility. Unfortunately Hort graduates are not eligible coz they hv clearly mentioned the criteria….B.Sc Agri or B.Sc Forestry. But u can still confirm it given that the winds of ‘change’ are blowing in the UPSC nowadays!!
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@Chandu Thanks a lot. Cn u plz say me hw to confirm about this?
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Thanks chandu.
I hope they declare the results soon.
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Is there any scaling of marks for mathematics over other theory subjects??
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@dipti I am so sorry for the that piece of info. I confirmed it…B.Sc. Hort are eligible….last year’s AIR-5 rank holder is a B.Sc. Hort graduate. His name is Vivek Hoshing. I have his contact number too.
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Table-1: Year-wise Number of Vacancies and Number of Candidates :
Indian Forest Service Examinations
Year Vacancies Number of Candidates
Applied Appeared Qualified Attended PT Recommended
2007 40 31,887 7,696 129 128 40
2008 85 32,872 7,659 232* 230 85
2009 85 43,262 10,330* 231 226 85
2010 85 59,530 10,389* 237 236 85
2011 85 67,168 10,427 241 241 85
Note * Candidature of two candidates each were subsequently cancelled in the year 2008, 2009 and 2010 respectively.
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table does not appear correctly. Kindly see UPSC’S annual report
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@chandu Thank u so much. M so glad after knowing this. If u can plz gv me the contact no. of Mr.Vivek den it will be well and good.
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@ Chandu
I will be appearing for 2014 exam. Dont know whether they would change the format again in 2014 or not. Nowadays they are changing everything.
Well I will start preparing for CSAT 2014 anyhow. Could you recommend me good books for geology and forestry?
Thanks
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IS BSc biotechnology are also eligible for IFS??????? because when I was filling the form the biotech is not there in subject column..and we have botany and zoology only in our first year rest years we have different subjects of biotechnology
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@dipti I dnt know if it is correct to share his number here. You can contact me at tashildarchandu@gmail.com. He obtained M.Sc Agri from IARI…so ultimately he is an agri graduate!
@chan I dnt think this new scheme will change. Concentrate on CSAT. It is a game changer. I am so sorry, i dnt hv any idea abt geology and forestry. You can scroll up n see. Many friends hv shared useful info abt forestry n geology.
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@chandu sure i vl contact u dere Thanks
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@vijaykumar384: yr optional subjects??
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@ veer ….mine is Agri and Zoo…
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Can anybody please suggest a list of books for physics optional for ifos mains??? Thanks…
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@chandu
is there any statistical formula that UPSC uses to do justice with all optionals??
I mean to say does the ratio of no of aspirants appeared for particular optional to the no of aspirants qualified for interview remains same, for every optional?
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hi…..if anybody need forestry and geology material for ifos….contact Mr.Priyadarshan on +919700439452
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anyone please tell or anyone have any information that BSc botech candidates are eligible for IFos or not I call UPSC but no one is picking up the phone so please share this information if someone have it
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this one for u sudhesnu sir.. their is politics and coruruption evrywhere from academics to sports…how one should react when ur top level is corrupted and u want to remain clean to ur conscience???
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Some of you have asked about medical so am detailing the entire process below based on my medical exam (for men)-
Your height, weight will be checked and chest expansion also. Weight doesn’t really matter but if your under height then you won’t be cleared. Chest expansion is also necessary or you won’t be cleared. But try not to be overweight because you need to run also.
Then there is a detailed exam by a doctor. Blood pressure will be checked. Condition of teeth, throat and he puts a stethoscope and asks you to breathe heavily. Then jump for twenty seconds, lie on a table and he will measure pulse again. A urine test is also done.
Then an eye test. Colour bilndness is not acceptable.
Then there is a scrotum test and chest x ray. And that is it. There is no other test. So unless you have colour blindness or are under height, you should not worry.
All the best. I hope those who were having doubts regarding medical will now relax and prepare whole heartedly for this exam. In case of doubt, visit an eye specialist for colour blindness test. Height you can check yourself at home.
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@aniket… yes, the marks that we see are awarded after SCALING. I’hv heard that the formula for scaling is based on the skewness of the marks obtained by all candidates of that particular subject…I’m nt sure though…!
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Is failing in walking test enough to disqualify a candidate?
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If a person fails in the first walking test, will be given another chance; in case that person is recommended for selection. if one fails in the second walking test too, then that person will be disqualified.
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@Piyush
Though I asked this question in the blog before, I would like to ask yo again. What about flat feet . Did they check your foot ?
Thanks
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@ Piyush What does condition of teeth imply ..?? is it the min no of teeth one should have??is it the arrangement.?? is it fixation of tooth in socket?? the healthy gum.?
Do they count Body Mass Index?? is it very Important,..
well I am 5.55 by height and weight is 53Kg is that ok???
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what is scrotum test (as mentioned by piyush)
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@ Chan Yes, they do check for flat foot..scrotum check is just to analyse whether someone is having varicose problems n everything is functional..If someone is having serious problems of varicose they do give time to undergo a surgery. Bodymass index, condition of teeth are not that important..
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According to our sources (Undersecretary), Today is the final result of IFoS 2012
best of luck!
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All the best Guys…..
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my foot was not checked but they asked me to remove my shoes so maybe they looked at it. I don’t really know if they check for flat feet or not.
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this strange gut feeling…
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All the best everyone for the result
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Where is the final result according to your Undersecretary?? In every forum there will be someone who claims to be so close to undersecretary and creates panic..let the result come naturally when it is ready
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I second Shashi.
Don’t create false rumours people. Unless and until the result comes out in the upsc site, nobody can say when it will come out. If information from inside upsc could leak so easily, this exam would not remain so prestigious.
So guys don’t bother abut such people, just trust the upsc site only.
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@ Raj- teeth are simply checked. not very important. I have only 28 and not even 32.
overweight is not an issue but a person will face problems during the running test so it is advisable to be fit if you are preparing for IFos
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@Shashi, Piyush and others.
I beg your pardon. I am really very very sorry. I never intended to create panic. I only wanted to farward the information which i considered important for the concerned.
Piyush is right. UPSC is really an Unpredictable Public Service Commission. I must have trusted only the official website, and nothing else.
I deeply regret the inconvenience caused. My sincere apologies to all.
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@ Aristocrat-
It’s alright man. you don’t need to apologize. I can understand what you guys must be going through as I have gone through it all myself. Just trust the upsc site. Result is in confidential section so nobody can say for sure when it will be declared. All the best.
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@Piyush…Very true Sir-ji
Thanks for understanding.
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@all
students preparing for indian engineering services exam from electrical engg branch should refer previous years ies papers of both electrical and electronics and telecom engg (objective only) from 1999-2012 to get a more variety of questions asked, many of which are repeated. electrical and electronics and telecom engg have nearly 80% same syllabus, so it is imperative to solve the objective papers of both these branches. also solve ias prelims electrical engg papers (from 1993-2010) which was under old scheme of ias, since many questions from ias prelims are repeated in ies as well (even numericals are repeated without any modification at all). for written papers, refer ias mains electrical engg papers from 2008-2012 along with ies electrical papers from 1999-2012.
ias mains electrical engg syllabus was quite different before 2008. after syllabus change in 2008, the syllabus of ias electrical has been made similar to ies electrical syllabus.
i know this forum is for ifos only, nevertheless since many b tech graduates are preparing for ies as well, so i thought this would help.
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@Aristrocrat..It’s alright brother..no need to apologize..i’m also tensed..! hope UPSC will publish it soon..
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i am a student of maths hons 2nd year at BHU and i am really serious for ifos 2014 with optionals physics and maths.
i have no problems with maths but little worried about physics.
if anyone of you is preparing with phy or maths, plz contact at dhirajarya1@gmail.com for a serious and well-planned preparation.
IFS is not so hard.
LETS CRACK IT TOGETHER…….
DHIRAJ CHAUHAN
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I am a die hard lover of forests and wildlife.
my hometown is dehradun so i have visited the place manytimes where IFS probationers are trained( Indira gandhi national forest academy near FRI university).
its really awesome.
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@ Aristocrat, chandu
any body called upsc regarding final result??
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@Piyush
Can u plz tell me whether they chech for tar formation in lungs for smokers during chest x ray.
i’ll be thankful plz reply.
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@satish….No. As per one rumor, the final result is expected in the first week of April. You never know…
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hi…..if anybody need forestry and geology and mechanical engg material for ifos….contact Mr.Priyadarshan on +919700439452
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when will the result of ifos 2012 would be decleared ?
anyone have any idea ?
is the rumour of 1st week of april has some credibility?
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Friends I have started my studies for CSAT 2014. It’s a long journey but I hope it will be a fruitful one. Best of luck for your upcoming results and I hope I see a few of you as my seniors in 2015.
Jai Hind
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HELO SIR,
I M RAHUL SHRIVASTAVA,and 26 year old and now i m looking for IFS, and working as a PGT, Chemistry, i belongs to a small town, but i want became ifs.
it is heartly request to u please guide me sir, what to do?
Thanking you,,,
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Chandu bhai result kab aa raha hai?
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result 5th april tak aayega
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How do I know Mr. Sumit?
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happy holi to all to you
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@ Chandu…..this question could be answered by you only 🙂
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Hi sumit … I am PRADEEP MISHRA … we met in medical test and your senior from your college … How are you doing … Good to see you on blog …
Hi Chandu … I was just before you in interview …. Hopefully you remember me … What’s up … Any credible news of ifs result …
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@sumit sir, unlike you, I don’t have the wisdom to predict UPSC. So, you would know much better than me.
@pradeep…of course yaar..how would I forget you? How’re you doing? There is no credible news as such. We need to wait.
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What the hell is going on in UPSC!
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Less than 2 months left for CSAT. Dont those people realise that 66 % students are going to fail, and it is never that easy to start running for the marathon when you have been thrashed to ground by a last hurdle failure. We have wrote the exam in july 2012, still waiting for the judgement day. The rigmaroling UPSC’s selection process calling an immediate overhaul especially with respect to the time taken in declaring the results. This is not the way to test the patience of students. It is just a ridiculous way of wasting the precious time of students. The apex body must declare the tentative dates of results right on the day of notifying the advertisement of posts.
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@Chandu, we met during med test.
@Pradeep….nice to see you too. somehow i had lost your email add from my mind. mine is sumit.choudhary1712@gmail.com . please send me a test mail
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about results….nobody’s picking up call at UPSC. Fed up of trying
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Hi chandu…….
happy b’day..
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Notification bhi ek saath, Prelims bhi ek saath, interview bhi almost ek hi time pe, To Result bhi ek saath hi nikaalney ki tayyari hai. Jai ho UPSC Bhaba ki!
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@sadik.thank you yaar.
@sumit sir…yeah, we met during med test. Any news regarding final result?
@ritika did u receive any letter from UPSC regarding submission of degree certificate? if yes, kindly let me know coz i haven’t received any letter.
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@ Chandu-
No, did not receive any communication. it’ll be after the result is announced i think.
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nah….no news
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hello Chandu
I have started preparing IFS with forestry as one of optional. I am confused regarding selection of 2nd optional.
I had studied biology at +2 level.
So i am thinking of selecting either botany or zoology.
I just want 2 know which subject should be preferred considering length of syllabus as these days it is necessory 2 complete entire syllabus
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An Officer had went on leave. His signatures were pending, resulting in the unexpected delay in the declaration of result. Result has been already prepared. It will be out on or before 5 april.
I have no intention to spread rumours or present myself as an ivory-tower person having close affiliation with UPSC. I just want to assuage the ecstasy of people that have been kept on the tanterhooks by the UPSC.
Wish you All The Best!
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@Nilesh…it depends on several factors:
1. your interest in the subject
2. availability of the material
3. a group of friends preparing for the same (or a sincere timetable if u r preparing alone)
both botany and zoology fit in the above criteria (given that u had biology in +2 level, availability of the material and many candidates opting for the same). As per my opinion, you should go for botany coz both subjects relate with each other.
@aristocrat….finally !!
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for few minutes, upsc site was down.
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@Kapil…….badey Zulmi hai yeh, bachchon ki jaan le kay hi rahengay.
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ifos result will be decleared along with the civil service final result.this was conveyed by the upsc official on telephone today(1st April)
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What is going on. If result is result, why should they defer it. Hadd ho gayi!
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@bijay….that UPSC guy must hv been in ‘april fool’ mood!
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In UPSC,they are picking the phone but not replying when asked about IFS result date.
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It seems result will be further delayed.
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It seems UPSC people are delibrately forwarding wrong informations to leave people wondering about the exact date of the result.
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http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs?cmm=23492063&tid=5805316065544894358&na=2&npn=19&nid=
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Ist week of May tak to mar hi jayengay.
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hehe
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can we expect the result of ifos final result even in this week? as now upsc are refusing to say anything about the result when ask about it through phone?
can anyone tell one single reason for such a large delay in publishing the result ..becoz uspc dont have any have any answer for such a delay
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@Deepak….. 234 phool jaisey bachchey murjaa gaye hain. Kitney zalim hai yeh log. Kitney log lunch hi nahi kar rahey result ki pratikshaa kartey kartey. Desh kay bawishya ki lag rahi hai!
Angrezon kay zamanay kay loga chala rahey hai UPSC ko, halat kharab kardi apni to.
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hmm..UPSC people please put an end to this drama..!!
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@hmm78…… Lagta hai sarey paapi log IFoS 2012 exam diye they,……July se intizaar kar kar kay mar gaye yaar….. Result na huwa Amir Khan ki Film ho gayi, aa hi nahi rahi UPSC website kay pardey pe 🙂
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@hmm78…… Lagta hai sarey paapi log IFoS 2012 exam diye they,……July se intizaar kar kar kay mar gaye yaar….. Result na huwa Amir Khan ki Film ho gayi, aa hi nahi rahi UPSC website kay pardey pe 🙂
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Ek naya Rumour, “Result second week of April mein Ayega”
UPSC jab tak result declare nahi karta, nayi nayi khabrein sunnay ko milti raheingi, log aur pareshaan hottay rahengay.
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ye ifos ka result naa hua ……….birbal ki khichdi ho gayee hai ……….kab se ban rahee hai ……..aur kab tak ban kar ready hogi ……..kisi ko nahi pata hai …………
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Called UPSC today.
Result is in final stage.
They said It can come today itself but guaranteed by next week.
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Person who pick the phone is very humble,probably from south.
He is answering all queries related to IFS exam.
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UPSC site down again.
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Site was down for engg interview details i think
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@Pbisht
aap pushpa bisht ka naam bana kar lyon likh rahe hai …….when she is not evening respoding to our call……….
if u know anything abt the ifos final result then share with us…we are damned concern abt what is going on in upsc with the final result of ifos. …..no one of us can believe that result is still in the process of finalization when more than 36 days has passed………it is just a making a fool of us by saying that result is not still finalized.
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who is pushpa bisht?
agar mera naam pramila bisht hai to kuch aur likhu kya…
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Aao gay jab tum Oo Resultaaa
Anggna phool khilengay
Barsaaay ga sawan
Barsayyy ga sawan jhoom jhoom kay
do dil ❤ ❤ aisay milengay
🙂
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bijay- you are not the only one who has taken the exam. hum sabne bhi diya hai. you should have patience. once you get in job, then you will see what real pressure is. this wait is nothing compared to what beaurecrats have to go through everyday. result will come only when upsc wants it to come.
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@janmay
dont need your sermon ……………………
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@Janmay Sir……. We are not under pressure. we are curious to know our fate. It is like hatching a batch of eggs and not telling you whether you have produced the chicks or not. It seems foolishness to start hatching another batch of eggs when you have already tried your best for the batch whose result is not being declared to you. And please dont compare it with beaurocratic pressure. If your standings are clear not even President of India will be able to harm you. Only incapable and inefficient fellows have to fear the pressure mounted by higher echelons. Honesty and efficiency will make you shine even better in darkest cloaks of beaurocratic systems.
The case with competitive exams it totally different. Howsoever excellent you perform, you never know how many more excellents fellows are there competing with you.
It is sheer lack of concern to delay the declaration of result. Heavens are not going to fall if the declare it within a short period of time.
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mm25 sir how much can be final cutt off in this time general category
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relax…there may be some genuine reason.
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Its not about waiting for 30 days or 60 days, there are many people who write this exam patiently for years to get into the service..but the paradox is many a times their efforts remain in vain coz of the sheer lack of vision from the part of UPSC, every year 10-15 of the selected candidates do not join IFoS as they get selected for various other services like IAS IPS etc..but UPSC has not yet taken any initiatives to prevent this drop outs or the fill these seats. The efforts and fate of many deserving and passionate candidates are wasted every year. (Hope everyone must be remembering the 25km in four hours chase)..i’m one among the unfortunate who hit a century(25km X 4 years) In the case of IAS and allied civil service exam they are atleast maintaining a reserve list to fill the vacancies..Its high time to raise this issue before the authorities..!
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has anybody called UPSC
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UPSC eyy kya hei…???
@hmm78 well said that’s 100% true..good luck brother..
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shashi
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mm25- heavens will not fall even if the results are declared after sometime.
relax. nobody can say when the result will come.
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@ aristocrat- is the officer still on leave? 🙂
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@Ranga…….heavens fall when hell has been broken loose….delay in result is making heavens fall for those who are waiting for the outcome of their years of hardwork. Heaven needs not to searched in the skies. It is here on earth- in the solace of heart- which UPSC is disturbing persistently. If people are so much stoic, why are are they wasting their precious time in checking the blog updates?
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@ mm25- ha ha ha
you can take out your frustration but nothing will come of it.
issye kya result will come early. he he
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Now it is better to focus on CSAT despite waiting for result….
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Just for information, nothing else
Following are the stats for IFS result announcing dates
Year of Exam Final result Ann.
2008 27/03/2009
2009 05/03/2010
2010 21/02/2011
2011 30/03/2012
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hey… its a long journey n waiting fr results is also a part of it…. aur result aayega nhi to jaayega kaha 😛
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I think result will be declared on 9th april. check the dates posted earlier. Each time there is a delay of eight or nine days in the previous date. So, this year it should be on ninth april.
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@ranga
now you have started speculation ..yesterday some people including talking very big things……..but now just after 20 hours has passed u have forget your own words .
any way what makes it different for u whether the result come on 9th april or 9th may 2013?
ab aap kyon speculation start kar diye hai ………..kal to aap badi badi baatein kar rahe the .waise bhi 9th april yaa 9th May aapke liye kya
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i am using simple logic to pacify people like you.
i have not given exam this year so for me it’s pointless when the result comes out. aaye hi na tab bhi mujhe koi farak nahi padhta because i have not given, i will give next year. but see the dates and then see the logic which is simple.
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@ranga ..
aapki logic bhiaapki tarah subaan alah ……………21 feb aur 30 march me 9 din ka antar ………kya mathematical logic hai ….kaha se pade hai bhai……aap to kud ko hi pacify kar lijiye ………….humog ko jaise hai waise hi rahne de……waise aisa intezaar aap ko karna pade agle saal yehi dua hai humsab ki ………..jo is saal kar rahe hai ……….waise bhi aap apne mathemtical logic se apne gyan ka parichay de chuke hai
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@ranga- check for 2008 and 2009. am saying roughly.
and agle saal itna to mujhko malum hai ki aap logo ki tarah rota nahi firunga ki result nahi aa raha. agar upsc exam diye ho to itni patience honi chahiye.
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@ranga ……..
apna naam bata dijiye ..agle year sabse pehle hum log hi aapko congrats karenge …………..your name please ……………..
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naam hai ranga. lekin i don’t need your congrats. jo ifs ya ias ban raha hai, apne liye ban raha hai, doosre ke liye nahi. keep your congratulations with you.
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in other forums people are also saying same thing. that 9th april is the date.
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@mm25……. Bhai meray naam ka duplicate kyon bana raha hai….. 🙂
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you don’t have a name dear. mm25 is not a name.
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Does anyone know when result will be declared?
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very slim chance in this week……hopefully by next week ………….
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@hemu
Hi hemu
Yaar last week UPSC told me that result will be positively out by 12 april.
From where did you got above information .
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@kapil
i called today itself. they said probably by next week.
if u will also call today they will answer the same ……….(mean next week)
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yaar hemu, i called them now.
They are saying it can come today or tomorrow.
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@kapil
pata nahi yaar .kya problem hai upsc ke saath .sab ko differnt differnt news de rahe hai………waise phone no. kya hai jaha call laga rahe hai aap(mine was 01123098591)
i wish that ur info become true..and we expect the result come by today itself
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Wow, this post is pleasant, my younger sister is analyzing these kinds of
things, therefore I am going to inform her.
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Just now I called upsc … They are saying that result may come today or tomorrow … Best of luck !
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@hemu
same number
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011-23098591 (4389)
today there is paucity of time…so tom pakka se….
Disclaimer- its what they said….
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result will be decleared tomorrow
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@satish r u sure ??
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@Vpradesh
ye the result will be annouced today in 2nd half
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Just now called upsc ( my conversation )
Me: good afternoon sir! Yesterday, you said, ” Result will come today or tomorrow.” Should we expect result to come today ?
Upsc guy : yes I said, even I too, was expecting the same. But result has gone in the process so I have no idea about it’s current status. You may call me after lunch. In any case if result does not come today … Then it will come tomorrow..
Me: thank you sir…
Called at 011-23098591 (4389)
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mishra ji what is ur contact no
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now i understand ki kal kabhi nahi aata.
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ab nahi lag raha hai ki result is week aayega …phir se phone par ……. old fashioned reply dena start kar diye hai ki issue confidential(i don’t know the meaning at this point of time ) hai .how can i tell u?
pata nahi kyon kal hope dikha kar aaj phir hopeless kar diye …….ab jab aa jaaye tabhi samjhenge ki aa gaya .ab phone call karne ka koi bhi matlab nahi hai
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Just now I called UPSC…… they said that publishing of result is under process it may come today on or before 06:00 pm so keep watching UPSC website……. :):)
Called at 011-23098591 (4389)
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ranga becomes harry..
thanx ranga/harry.. for informing us a news which we are waiting for more than a month
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you all may end up in a heavy loss if you invest in stock market! 😀
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Maybe they can’t upload result because of the internet connectivity problem which is world over. Even I am facing disruptions repeatedly.
I called upsc today. They said it is under process and can be declared anytime. After it goes in process, they are not told when it will come out.
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Another day ends with so much of speculations and predictions..nothing happened..!
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@ harry
r u sure coz its nearly 6 n no results yet !!!
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@ shashi
exactly… i dont know y people give out wrong info !!
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Bloody hell with the people who tantalize candidates by creating mirages. We are patient enough to keep waiting for results without any haste. The problem arises when they make false promises, utter blatent lies, make you wait in anticipation and then backtrack with impunity. It doesn’t behove the apex Commission for Public Service to present a sordid face on its information counters.
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INDIAN FOREST SERVICE EXAMINATION 2012
S.NO. ROLL NO NAME
_________________________________________________________________________
1 003472 VASAVI PRAKASH
2 030234 DIVYA
3 002241 ANOOP A SHETTY
4 001732 PRADEEP MISHRA
5 029906 SHAVETA JANDIAL
6 005709 VIPIN KUMAR PATEL
7 015637 ANUPAM SHUKLA
8 053410 KELKAR NACHIKET SANJEEV
9 004222 RENU BALA
10 027200 SURYA SEN A V
11 072439 SAVITA DAHIYA
12 002199 CHAVAN TUSHAR RAMCHANDRA
13 019511 GAURAV OJHA
14 007163 HEMANT SINGH
15 045870 ISHA TIWARI
16 030960 PRERNA DIXIT
17 033570 GULSHAN KUMAR
18 059518 VINITA VYAS
19 039220 VINAY KANT MISRA
20 021824 DIKSHA BHANDARI
21 018442 MANISH KUMAR
22 032187 ANAMIKA
23 005496 BILAL MOHI UD DIN BHAT
24 030497 NANDANI SALARIA
25 049898 MUNDHE ARVIND DATTU
26 028533 DAYA SHANKAR
27 034201 RAVEENA TYAGI
28 020109 SHASHIKANT KUMAR
29 039733 JAGANNATH SINGH R
30 016769 SHANKARA NAND MISHRA
31 029864 AMLENDU PATHAK
32 002492 ABDUL QAYUM
33 046326 ARUNLAL P G
34 026793 ANANT SHANKAR
35 065377 SUDHA S
36 004362 WARKAD YOGESH NILKANTH
37 000353 ABHISHEK SINGH
38 017422 PRANAY MISRA
39 002405 BHARAT SINGH HADA
40 048557 JISS K VARKEY
41 009624 SOMNATH DAS
42 059253 TEJAS MARISWAMY
43 053418 RAHUL SINGH
44 046363 N VIJI
45 002605 ABDUL ALIM ANSARI
46 003340 ALOK NATH GUPTA
47 061109 PRIYANKA GAHLOT
48 061385 DILEEP KUMAR YADAV
49 048317 TERAKCHI K MARAK
50 025861 RINKU KUMARI
INDIAN FOREST SERVICE EXAMINATION 2012
S.NO. ROLL NO NAME
_________________________________________________________________________
51 030652 MANISH SINGH
52 005180 ABHISHEK KUMAR
53 001776 CHANDULAL BABALAL TASHILDAR
54 004269 SEKHAR BABU GEDDAM
55 041255 MONIKA DEVI YADAV
56 007682 SAKKIRA BEGUM R
57 045401 JAYARAMEGOWDA R
58 024822 MRITUNJAY MADHAV
59 011487 PATIL NITIN KUNDALIK
60 023437 SUSHANT KUMAR
61 022809 KALUNGE GORAKH WAMAN
62 005607 C ZUPENI TSANGLAI
63 052742 VIKAS V
64 001272 SAMUEL VANLALNGHETA PACHUAU
65 007411 AJIT UCHOI
66 039372 NISHA GOSWAMI
67 026210 ABHARNA K M
68 040994 NEERAJ KUMAR CHANCHAL
69 074564 ANSHU YADAV
70 002586 RAJESH A M
71 045612 NARESH BABU N
72 004012 RAJESH KUMAR
73 024131 JAYARAJ N
74 073523 SUNDARESHA
75 040605 JAYASHREE NAIDING
76 002565 SENBAGAPRIYA S
77 042939 GANVEER DHAMMSHIL SAMPAT
78 010271 PRADIP BAURI
79 022529 S BALASUBRAMANIAM
80 070707 PRABHAT KUMAR
81 044280 SUMAN SHIVASHANKAR SIVACHAR WM
82 026426 NEELIMA SHAH
83 004580 JYOTSANA
84 043081 SHUBHAM SINGH
85 045680 MICHI KOYANG
CONCLUDED
UNION PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
_______________________________________________
NEW DELHI – 110 069 – April 09, 2013 / Chaitra 19, 1935 (Saka)
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result is out
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A Big Congrats to all ! and i can see more ppl from ICAR…and from Life science Bkground…
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Congrats for all….
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congratulations…..pradeep, vipin, tushar, abdul…..see u all in Dehradun!
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first of all ! congratulations to chandu,pradeep,vipin,tushar,abdul andall recommended candidate in IFoS 2012 .
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Can anybody post the subject-wise marks obtained for the sucessfull candidates?
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plz share your experience with us .its humble request to all selected candidate.
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Congrats to those who have cleared .
A friend of mine who is undergoing training told me ,that a senior officer mentioned that there is a consideration of creating a reserve list in IFS from this year (like what has been done in civil service exam) .
I am planing to talk to the authorities directly and find out.
Anyone with similar interests, pleases let me know.
@hmm78 seems that u r in a similar kind of situation. Let me know if a combined effort can be made..
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@ VIK what reserve list ?? e kya naya problem hey yar.????? well if something is sure plz keep updated….losing hopes 1 by 1….
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hi…..if anybody need forestry and geology and mechanical engg material for ifos….contact Mr.Priyadarshan on +919700439452
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@ vijay. Reserve list is not a problem. There would be a merit list of candidates who have attended the interview but would have missed to make it through. When someone from the selected list do not appear for the training, the vacancies are filled up from the reserve list.. This seems to have been started in civil service exams from last year
I will try to get more info on the same..but since I don’t live anywhere near Delhi , would b glad if others try to get some info directly too…
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Chandu and all other successful candidates..please take an hour from your schedule and publish your interview on this blog..you should appreciate that it will be of great help to other aspirants..
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congrts to all 🙂
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@ Vik- can we not file an RTI about the reserve list? I think we can file it both UPSC and Moef for I am not sure who decides about the reserve list.
In any case, I am filing an RTI about cut off marks. will post here soon.
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Thanks Ramesh …
Congrats to all selected candidates …
With god grace I have secured 4th rank …
Thanks to all member of this blog …
Special thanks to Mr. Shudhanshu …
Soon I will share my interview …
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congrats 2 all……..
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congrats 2 all
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@ ifs aspirant … Sure we can file an RTI for the reserve list, But I would prefer to wait till the scores are out ( may be there might be some kind move from them by then) .. I am trying to meet a couple of them within the dept and confirm first whether the info is authentic..
I find in a discussion thread in another site that there are several of those who have cleared IFS and have attended the civil service interview as well. Doesn’t seem good when they vacate their seats here when they get civil service ranks , while others who r waiting are deprived of a rank!
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@VIK
yaar RTI mai whoh kah denge ki IFS ki reserve list prepare nahi ki jati,
further senior officers ke kahne mai aur baat implement hone mai kaafi time lag jayega,shayad next year.RTI file karne se shayad isi saal ho jaye.
But Please start preparing for your next attempt.
Meri taraf se best wishes hai apke liye.
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My personality Test for IFS
NAME: PRADEEP MISHRA
ROLL NO. 001732
RANK: 4
OPTIONALS: MATHEMATICS AND CHEMISTRY
My interview was on 26th February 2013 in the morning session. I got IMG Khan Board. There were five members including chairman. I was the second candidate in a queue to be interviewed.
Me: May I come in sir?
Chairman: yes, yes please come.
Me: Good morning sir (to chairman) and good morning (four times to rest of members).
(There was a silence for a few seconds…)
Me: May I sit sir?
Chairman: please take your seat.
(They were going through my resume …) suddenly …
Chairman: you are an IIT product…
Me: yes sir! (I said confidently)
Chairman: your name is Pradeep Mishra … by the way, what is meaning of “pradeep”?
Me (with pleasant smile): sir, pradeep means “someone who enlightens others”.
Chairman: your name carries big responsibility on you… do you understand ?
Me: yes sir.
Chair man: you did Metallurgical Engineering and then you move to IT sector? I think India does need good Metallurgists. Then why did you move to IT sector?
Me: sir, during my college, apart from Metallurgy I had interest in software programming also. As per my college campus placement rule—once you get a job, you can’t sit for another job until rest of students are placed. Then the second job placement would start. In the beginning all big IT companies such as TCS, IBM, and INFY etc. come and they are also bulk recruiters. I tried for IBM that was the first company in the row and I got through.
Chairman: IBM is a big name as all of us know. Did you join IBM for its name?
Me. No sir, it’s primarily because of my interest in software programming.
Chairman: Currently you are working in some other company. Why did you leave IBM?
Me: Sir, I left IBM for my preparation. I took a break of approximately two and half years. Sir, due to this break in career, I had to again start with small IT Company. Also, I was not getting good opportunity in big companies.
Chairman: So, what are your current role and responsibility and nature of work?
Me: My role is technical lead and my designation is Senior Software Engineer. I am leading a small project of four people. My project name is SIS. My project based on Legacy Migration Application. Basically, I am working on Mainframe Platform.
Chairman: how do you think that your background—metallurgy and IT is going to help in forest conservation?
Me: Sir, I would like to start with IT… the most visible impact the IT has created is that it have made the World paperless and it is still in the process..on technical front, IT based application such as GIS is immensely helping in planning and policy making that in turn helping in forest conservation. Further… (Chairman intervened)
Chairman : what is GIS?
Me: GIS stands for Geographical Information System. It is an integration of software, hardware and database. It works as an inventory management and resource management tool in which we feed various input information and get customized output.
Chairman: what are inputs you provide?
Me: Inputs such as types of forest, soil, biomass weight and volume etc. (I stopped)
Chairman: no… continue … tell me some more inputs…
Me: climatic information such as temperature and humidity …
(Chairman was smiling… I was not sure whether he was convinces or not)
Chairman: have you heard the name of forest survey of India?
Me: yes sir.
Chairman: where is it’s headquarter located?
( I knew it is in Dehradoon but I was little confused with Kolkata I was thinking… then suddenly …)
Chairman: where is your forest training institute located?
Me: sir, it is in Dehradoon!
Chairman: yes!
(Then, chairman passed it to the next member)
M1: you are a metallurgist, can you name any Aluminum plant ?
Me: it is Hindalco located at Renukoot in UP.
M1 : who owns Hindalco?
Me : I don’t know sir.
M1: form which material you obtain aluminum?
Me: pardon sir, could you repeat your question? (Since, his voice was not audible)
M1 : form which ore, you obtain aluminum?
Me : sir, it is bauxite.
M1 : yes.
M1: what are byproducts of aluninium ore processing?
Me : sir, I have forgotten.
M1: have you heard the name of Red Mud ?
Me: I must have read about it but it’s now tough to recall.
M1: are you working on GIS?
Me : no sir, I am working in mainframe technology.
M1: okay…you talked about GIS, from where you get those inputs which you said you feed in GIS?
Me : data collected from Remote Sensing and Ground based survey.
M1: what is remote sensing?
Me: remote sensing is a technique through which various relevant data are obtained without being in actual physical touch.
M1: do you know some more detail about Remote Sensing?
Me: no sir I just know the basics.
(He is done. He passed to another member M2)
(I pointed myself to M2. I could easily see that he was going through my summary sheet underlining with a pen in his right hand)
M2: Your hobby is “watching documentary movie on Nature and Ecology”
Me: yes sir.
M2: how long have you been following this hobby?
Me: for last six to seven months…
M2: is it that you kept the hobby keeping IFS in back of your mind?
Me: yes sir (I admitted it confidently)… I thought I was preparing for such a coveted IFS exam so I should know some basics about nature, ecology, wildlife etc. I should have some genuine inclination towards it…once I went deep into it I started enjoying it. Now, I can call it as my full-fledged hobby.
M2: which documentry movie did you watch recently?
Me: I watched “An Inconvenient Truth” by Al Gore…
M2: that’s fine… did you watch some movie on wildlife also?
Me: yes, I watched documentaries on Olive Redly turtle, crocodile…
M2: where is olive redly turtles found in India?
Me: Gahirmata in Odissa and rest of easter coastal plane and in kerala and up to goa in western coastal plane.
(Members were silent for a few seconds…)
Me: if honorable board allows me then I would like to share a small activity related to conservation of Olive Redly turtle… in which I took part…
Chairman: please go ahead…
Me: when I was in fourth year of engineering in Chennai, I participated in an activity call TURTLE WALK organized by local environmentalist group. In which, we are suppose to go to nearby beach in night. I got opportunity to actually see how turtles were coming and laying eggs. We collected those eggs and put it in the hatched region for its safety. After fifty five days, we took out the small hatchlings and drop it into ocean. This was the first time when I felt connected to nature. It was a very unique experience and very satisfying too.
M2: okay Pradeep…it is really good to know all this. Board would like to know that what inspires you for all this.
(It was a tough question. I didn’t have any good answer. I was about to blank. I closed my eyes so that I could think of some good answer. First time during my interview I felt little pressure. I opened my eyes I saw all five people were looking at me in hope of some good answers. Then I started …)
Me: in whole universe, the most beautiful thing which I see is life. Life is beautiful. And it is worth living…all forms of life are deeply intertwined with each other into a highly interrelated and highly complex integrated matrix. And when I see how we humans are disrupting and degrading our ecosystem, wildlife habitats, and that in a long run threatening our own existence. Then I feel hurt. And I really want to do something for it…
M2: This the only reason for which you want to join IFS?
Me: no sir, this is my philosophical theme, I want to join IFS because primarily because of my interest in forest conservation, the challenging career it provides, the diversity of opportunity present in this job and most importantly rare opportunity to work with diverse kind of people belonging to different backgrounds. I know sir, this is something that IFS offers me.
But there are many things that I think I can contribute. Through my corporate experience, I came to know that I firmly believe in team work, I am person who can create a positive, motivating and encouraging environment for my team to pursue a collective purpose and at the end of day, I can ensure all of us in my team can share a sense of ownership with a kind of work we are doing.
M2: that’s nice pradeep … do you read some book also … I mean you must be reading books related to your field (IT) do read books apart from that also.
Me: recently, I have read a famous book named “MAN EATERS OF KUMAON”.
M2: who is author of this book?
Me: sir, Jim Corbett
M2: who was jim Corbett?
Me: he was a hunter who used to hunt man eaters tigers and leopards in KUMAON region. Later on, by seeing plight of tigers, he became tiger conservationist.
M2: for what else jim Corbett is also known for?
Me: jim Corbett is India’s first national park
M2: where is it located?
Me: it is located in nainital district in uttrakhand.
M2: have you ever visited jim Corbett?
Me : no sir … once I tried to go there with my friends … while reaching near Rampur (UP), we came to know that road condition is really bad so we diverted towards nainital hill station. But sir I have visited sariska national park.
M2: pradeep do play some games also?
Me: sir during college days, I used to play cricket, but now I don’t get enough time as my job is very demanding. But I manage regular jogging.
M2: jogging for reducing your weight?
Me: sir, reduction of weight is one small aspect of jogging. Jogging is more than that. It is a cardiovascular exercise. It ensures over all fitness. Sir I enjoy jogging and in fact I am so fond of it that I would like to pursue it for my rest of life.
M2: yes .. I see … you have mentioned it into your summary sheet also..
Me: yes sir.
M2: what are other wildlife documentary movies you have watched?
Me: I have also watched movie on tiger, lion, elephant …
(He didn’t say anything he passed it to M3)
M3: suppose you are a forest officer, there is a forest fire in the forest. You have plants, animals and humans. You have to save only one among them. Whom you will save and why?
Me: I will save human life.
M3: why?
Me: sir, forest fire is a common occurrence throughout the world. In which plants destroys and periodically regenerates, animals run away from the forest when they sense there is a forest fire and even if they are killed, still they can be regenerated with concerted effort through conservation program as we are doing in case of tiger. But sir human life is the most precious once lost they cannot be regenerated. So I will save human life at every cost.
M3: given an option between tribal people and animals, which you will save?
Me : sir… tribal people
M3: consider a situation, there is flood in forest, there is cave in cliffs at some height where naxals are conducting their meetings if naxals are not there, then animals can go there and take shelter. Now as a forest officer, what will you do ?
Me: sorry sir, this scenario is not clear to me.
M3: give your opinion based on whatever you have understood.
Me: I am really sorry sir. It’s really tough for me express any opinion when I have not understood the whole scenario properly.
M3: okay no problem, next question, suppose you are a metallurgist, in the forest two projects are being proposed that is mining and dam building. Which one you will choose?
(again scenario is not clear to me, but this time I am forced to say something as I thought not taking stand may cause dishonor to M3 member)
Me: sir mining.
M3: why?
Me: as a metallurgist I know the criticality of metallurgical engineering for ore requirement. Further, ore mining can be done in phase wise manner as per recent directives of moef. Such phase wise approach could actually cause least impact to forest.
M3: don’t you think dam building can have more impact on forest?
Me: yes sir, you are right dam building indeed, can cause more impact on forest. But sir please appreciates my point that I was thinking from metallurgist point of view.
M3: don’t you think metallurgists are environment sensitive people?
(I really could not understand what M3 sir was talking about)
(Before I could answer chairman intervened into it)
Chairman: please forget about metallurgist, consider you as forest officer, now between mining and dam building which project will concern you more?
Me: sir dam project.
Chairman: why?
Because a dam project causes huge submergence of a very large area that in turn causes immense loss of flora and fauna and other form of biodiversity, habitat loss, and very high impact on environment and ecology as a whole.
Chairman (with pleasant smile): yes pradeep … we wanted to listen this from you.
(M3 passed it to M4)
M4: pradeep I won’t ask you many questions from you. You said something called motivating environment. What do you understand by motivation?
Me: theoretically, I have read motivation from Maslow and Herzberg theory. But sir I would like to share my understanding of motivation through my day to day experience in my current job as a team lead in IT company.
It’s all about finding dreams and aspiration among people and relating it to a definite purpose and making them realize that once they achieved it they will be fulfilled and satisfied. This realization drives them to achieve their purpose. I call this driving force as motivation.
M4: okay… you said lead … who is leader … I mean …pradeep what are characteristics of a leader?
Me: sir, leader is a person who has good communication skills, good interpersonal skills, should be person of high integrity, should have high moral character, who knows the basic values of society and most importantly, people who are being led should be able to identify themselves with the personality of leader.
M4: you are a jogger you must know Fauza Singh?
Me: yes Sir, he is the oldest person in the planet who having completed marathon at the age of 101. He announced his retirement recently. That is why he was in news.
M4: he conveyed some message to us. What is that message?
Me: sir, I saw an article on him in the newspaper just two days back. I just had a cursory look on that. Sorry sir, I can’t tell you the exact message but I can share the theme of his message.
M4 : please go ahead …
Me: according to him if a person maintains proper diet, regular exercise, mange his stress level and has ‘will’ to live long he may also lead a fit 100 years life.
(Chairman intervened suddenly)
Chairman: pradeep don’t you think that fauza singh is genetically superior?
Me: sir, I don’t think so.
Chairman: then what you believe in …?
Me : I believe if a person maintains a good dietary habit, regular exercise, good stress level, simplified outlook of life and above all if there is god grace then he can also live 100 years of fit life.
M4: what is so special about jogging?
Me : in my opinion, jogging is the most convenient and the most inexpensive form of exercise which an average person can do. Especially, country like India, where people having different kind of cardiac problems, paying heavily on their medical expenses. For them, jogging is some sort of panacea.
Chairman: you said IT is making the world paperless. Don’t you think that with the uses of various IT gadgets such as printers we are taking more and more printouts?
(I had enough points to refute his concerns. But before I could say any thing …)
Chairman: please don’t take it otherwise pradeep, it was just my concern, I think pradeep, probably you are correct.
Chairman: have you heard that recently, ministry has given directives regarding some projects … where we are not consulting gram panchyat…
(Luckily I knew this issue and out of excitement I said)
Me: Sir, I think you are talking about Linear Projects?
Chairman (with a great smile): yes yes yes … pradeep I am talking about the linear projects only… so pradeep, what is your opinion?
Me : we are leaving in democratic country and democratic set up. It is always desirable that we should get wider opinion on any issue. In a democracy, the process of consensus building becomes really tough and delayed on some issues that involve large number of stake holders. Linear projects such as electric wires, roads railway track passes through several villages. So process of consensus building becomes cumbersome. But at the same time, we can’t wait for development. Because, development is linked with lives of more than billion of people in our country.
In this situation, I think if some public utility projects which can provide immediate benefit to people, and have limited repercussions then the consultation process can be skipped for some time. Thus, I support ministry decision in this regard.
Chairman: don’t you think that we should take opinion of people?
Me: sir, it is always desirable to take opinion of people. Because they are better aware of local problems. Their opinion can serve as a valuable input for the policy making and planning.
Chairman (with a pleasant smile): Pradeep Your interview is over. You may go now.
Me: thank you sir (to chairman and also to everyone one by one)
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Congrats to successful candidates!!
And all the best for all aspirants.
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thank you pradeep for sharing your interview with us .really its the best .
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Thank you Ramesh …
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Thanks a lot Pradeep.. its really an inspiring interview for all the aspirants like us :).
Can you also share the marks obtained?
Thanks again and best regards
Hem
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Thanks …Hem … Marks will be disclosed within two weeks from now … Then only, I will be able to share it …
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Thanks a lot Pradeep….
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Date of Ifs mains 2013 October 3
As per reply from UPSC CSP 11 cut off for general was 198.
As first 500 will be allowed from genral , cut off for ifs may be very high as compared to ias
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@vik : pls keep posted abt reserve list possibillity . this is a narrow chance .still we should try.upsc should do something abt the posts that fall vacant each year in ifs .
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@ priya..sure will update on developments. But might need a group effort in case we need to request them to do something in this regards.
@ kapil. Completely agree with u bro. Running behind UPSC with RTI isn’t the game plan that works at all..may be a simple letter to the department & upsc to consider our concern or inform us if they intend to create a list is better.. And this shouldnt stand in way of our preparation for this years exam….and Of course a group effort is required. I am grateful for ur wishes. ..thanks..
And if anyone knows people in the dept , please try getting more info on the same.
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@vik :certainly a letter may prompt them to address this issue and people who lost n margin will benefit fm such a move .lets wait for the mark publication
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guyz..i have applied for ias in d form..i just wanna knw dat can i change it afterwards….i mean after cse prelims…..
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@Sahil:If you have applied only for Civils but not IFS…I don’t think you will get a choice of changing it after prelims…
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@ Pradeep- which attempt you got through in man
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once again congrats everyone…thank you Sudhanshu Sir.
I secured AIR 53 rank. My interview was not that good. It was IMG Khan’s panel (Pradeep and me were in the same group) for me. I was the 4th candidate to be interviewed in the morning session on 26th Feb.
I knocked the door and asked for the permission to come in. As soon as I entered, the chairman started talking …did not even give me enough time to wish them. And the interview began.
Chairman: Please please be seated…your name is chandulal tashildar (looking at DAF)
Me: Yes Sir.
Chairman: You have done masters in agriculture in plant pathology from dharwad… (looking at DAF)
Me: Yes sir.
Chairman: That was way back in 2011…what have you been doing after 2011…?
Me: Sir, I have been preparing for civil services…
Chairman: You did not do anything other than preparing for civil services?
Me: No Sir.
Chairman: Have you cleared civil services exam this time…?
Me: No Sir…unfortunately I could not get through.
Chairman: Ok. So finally you have decided not to be a scientist…what do you want to be then?
Me: Sir, I want to be an administrator.
Chairman: Ok. In IFoS, one must have a scientific outlook. What is scientific outlook?
Me: (did not know what to say…took a pause) Sir, scientific outlook requires one to be focused and well organised. We have to follow some steps…like.. we must observe the things, then draw some hypothesis, then experiment those hypothesis…and finally we conclude…these steps must be followed Sir…
Chairman: This is very idealistic…sometimes we have to be rational while taking decisions…
Me: Yes Sir.
Chairman: What is being rational?
Me: (did not know what to say…took a pause)
Chairman: I give you a situation. In a forest there is one big rock which is worshipped by tribal people…someone wants you to remove that rock and plant trees…what will you do?
Me: Sir, I will not remove that rock, because it is not only important for tribal people but many plant and animal species may also be living there. I would not like to disturb it.
Chairman: Yes…this is what I mean by rational thinking.
Me: (smiling and nodding)
HERE I REALISED THAT I WAS NOT RESTING MY BACK ON THE CHAIR. I QUICKLY PUT MYSELF BEHIND.
Chairman signalled the first member to take over…
1st member: I see that you are from agriculture educational background…
Me: Yes Sir.
1st member: Tell me what hydrology is…I want to know it.
Me: Sir, I don’t know the exact meaning…but it is deals with water science technology…watershed….
1st member: What is soil porosity?
Me: Sir it is the presence of air space in the soil…
1st member: What is soil permeability?
Me: Sir it is the ability of the soil to allow the passage of water through itself….
1st member: Ok. Tell me what remote sensing technology is and how we can use it?
Me: It is the technology through which we can conduct aerial surveys….of water resources…soils…forest cover…( I was not confident with this one).
1st member: Suppose I have an aerial photograph of agricultural land and forest cover. How will you differentiate between the two?
Me: (totally clueless) I am sorry Sir. I don’t know.
1st member: (giving a broad smile, signalled the second member to take over)
2nd member: Ok. I see that you have a very interesting hobby…insect rearing…what is it exactly? How do you do it?
Me: Sir, when I roam around, I collect eggs, larvae, pupae of insects… I rear them in my room by providing them their natural food…they grow into adult insects…
2nd member: Don’t you release them? Have you reared butterflies…you should release them…
Me: Yes Sir, I do release them. Butterflies have a short life…so I study their life cycle…and when they are dead, I give them as a gift to my friends…especially to girls, I gift earrings made of beetles, which have shiny body…
2nd: oh….you must be doing this on valentine’s day…isn’t it? (started laughing…other members also joined him..I could hear one member saying ‘’nice hobby”).
2nd member: Reading…what have you been reading recently?
Me: Sir I have been reading a book written by Japanese author …. stupid guy goes to India.
2nd : What what..? I didn’t get you.
Me: Sir I have been reading a book written by Japanese author Yukuchi…the title of the book is ‘stupid guy goes to India’. It is a graphical book.
2nd member: What does he say in that book?
Me: Sir, the Japanese author comes to India for selling his books…written graphically…wherein he describes how India really is…it is a bitter explanation of India. We say that India is doing really good…but he has explained the difficulties he faced in India in a graphical way.
2nd member: Do you know any Indian author who received booker prize?
Me: (paused) Yes Sir… I do know but I am not able to recollect it right now.
2nd member: Do you know Arundhati Roy?
Me: Yes Sir…author of the book ‘God of small things’.
2nd member: Good. Which things do you think have been harming the environment?
Me: Sir, the most important thing harming the environment is deforestation…all other things have resulted out of deforestation….
2nd member: Are there no other things?
Me: Yes Sir…industrialisation, agriculture…we have been doing agriculture since 10000 years..we have cleared forests for agriculture…
2nd member: And…? Any other thing very seriously happening?
Me: Yes Sir. Global warming.
2nd member: Yes. What is it and why is it happening?
Me: Sir it is rise in the temperature……(member interrupts..)
2nd member: Why is it happening?
Me: Sir the main reason apart from the deforestation is release of green house gases…released from industries….and agriculture..like rice plants…
2nd member (smiled and signalled the third member to take over).
3rd member: You mentioned before that man has been doing agriculture since 10000 years…What is the name of the culture followed before this period?
Me (this time totally clueless): I am sorry Sir…I don’t know.
3rd member: What is neolithics?
Me: Sir, I will not be able to tell the exact meaning but I would like to split the word…
3rd member: Go ahead.
Me: Sir, the word neo means ‘new’ and ‘lithics’ is something related to rocks…
3rd member: Yes…it is ‘new stone age’…it is the culture before agriculture came into existence..
Me: (nodding and giving a helpless smile)
3rd member: Some people say that horse was not present in India in ancient times….some people say (looking at my worried face)…why do they think so?
Me: (paused) Maybe Sir…in the Indus valley civilisation, we have discovered some artifacts wherein we can find pictures of bull…but there is no horse…
3rd member: Ok. What is dendroclinology?
Me: Sorry Sir, I don’t know.
3rd member: Ok. Have you heard of a place known as …………(some place in Tamil Nadu which I don’t remember).
Me: No Sir. I haven’t heard.
3rd member: Ok. This is where some evidences of horse were found….and that is why people are now saying that horses were there in India.
Me: (nodding, smiling)
Chairman interrupted…
Chairman: Yes…after that some Arabians might have brought horses in India…
3rd member: What is the difference between wild and domesticated?
Me: Sir, domesticated is something which stays with human beings and wild is something which doesn’t stay with human beings…
3rd member: Ok. Tell me one example of an animal which is still wild but stays with human beings.
Me: (thought for 4-5 seconds…scanned every animal in my memory, but could not think of such example…and somehow came with this one) Sir, there are several insects which stay on human body..like body lice…they stay with us but are still wild…they have not been domesticated…
3rd member (clueless..I guess he was expecting something else but not this one)
Chairman: Oh…he means those insects staying in our hair…haha…good example (started laughing…others also joined)
3rd member (smiled and signalled 4th member to take over)
4th member: Ok. What do you know about AADHAR?
Me: (paused) Sir, it is basically…a number…which is given to every citizen…based on biometric things (I tried to avoid this word a lot…THINGS) like retina scan…thumb impression…(looked at Chairman…he was nodding).
4th member: Yes. What is the use of such a number?
Me: (paused…I knew everything but believe me, I could not think of anything) Sir, it has several uses…like ..it can be used for opening bank accounts…..(I stopped after this)
4th member: Just bank account? are there any other uses?
Me: (paused…I cursed my memory) Sir, give me a minute to think…(the member did not seem to listen to my request)
Chairman (interrupted) : He wants a minute to think.
4th member: Of course…take a minute.
Me: Sir, it can also be used to transfer funds… like subsidies…
4th member: Yes..I wanted you to tell this. Now tell me…why to go for distributing subsidy through such methods? What do you think?
Me: Sir…because the funds are getting directly transferred in the account of the beneficiary…
4th member: So?
Me: Sir, Unfortunately in India, funds don’t reach the beneficiary…the system is like that…funds don’t reach…
Chairman interrupts…
Chairman: He is being very sincere and shy….come on, you can use the word ‘corruption’…there is rampant corruption in the system…(started laughing…members smiling)
Me: (gave a big smile)
4th member: So…don’t you think this method can be misutilised? like…I can use your aadhar number to transfer funds in your account…so why to have such a method?
Me: Yes Sir…it can be misutilised….but we cannot simply assume the things…sometimes we have to be positive.
4th member (smiling) signalled Chairman to take over.
Chairman: I see that you studied in Sainink School…
Me: Yes Sir.
Chairman: Discipline should have been there…
Me: Yes Sir…discipline was the most important.
Chairman: Ok. Tell me, how does discipline matter in administrative services?
Me: Sir, discipline is something which should not only be physical, but we have to be mentally disciplined as well…it is not a thing to tried occasionally….but it should be a daily practice…we must inculcate good morals….(I realised that I was giving a vague answer)
Chairman: Fine. How will you use it in the services?
Me: Sir, I will set an example in front of other people..my friends..my juniors…citizens..
Chairman: That means you will lead by example…
Me: Yes Sir, I will lead by example.
Chairman: Ok. Thank you. You may leave.
Me: Thank you Sir
walked out.
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this was my second attempt…interview is the most important part of the exam…many questions were opinion-based.
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Thanks chandu…
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@chandu
congrats for ur great success!!
if possible then plz let me know that how did u prepare for gk and english paper???
which magazines or newspaper are best for a better preparation??
however ur interview was really mindblowing……
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when does the walking test for ifs takes place?
before interview or after?
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thank you vijay, dhiraj…
@dhiraj…for gk i referred standard ncert textbooks and vajiram notes….newspapers= the hindu and indian express
for better preparation i think you should keep revising the textbooks and be in touch with current affairs.
@raj walking test is conducted 2 days after the interview
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@chandu
thank u sir ji.
as u r going yo b an officer now n start a new “Golden” chapter of ur life,
all the best !!!
but please ,if possible, dont forget to guide the future aspirants like Sudhanshu sir, as u r aware of the difficulties they face in preparation.
and however
“fal lagne par ped aur jyada jhuk jaate hain”.
khair,
thanks again.
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@ dhiraj…thank u for ur nice words..
mr. vipin patel…kindly share ur experiences…
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@ Sudhanshu Sir: Hello sir, I have qualified for IFoS with 26th rank and also qualified in civil services 2012. in CSE i might be getting IRS (C&CE).
Please guide me whether i should join IFoS or IRS (C&CE).
I am very confused.
Thanks and regards
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Marks of IFoS qualified people are up in UPSC website..please share your marks friends….
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i ve scored in interview 180 but not qualified just becoz of i ve a dentistry background
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b. pharma graduate eligible r not????? any one can confirm???
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Cut off for Gen. Category is 731
Here is the marksheet of that lucky guy.
Roll No. : 053418
Name : RAHUL SINGH
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 081
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 063
MECHANICAL ENGINEERING PAPER I 200 102
MECHANICAL ENGINEERING PAPER II 200 083
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 148
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 089
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 566
Interview Marks 300 165
Final Total 1700 731 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-43
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Roll No. : 049898
Name : MUNDHE ARVIND DATTU
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
BOTANY PAPER I 200 120
BOTANY PAPER II 200 071
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 083
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 117
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 110
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 086
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 587
Interview Marks 300 177
Final Total 1700 764 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-25
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Roll No. : 026793
Name : ANANT SHANKAR
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 064
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 065
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 092
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 063
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 152
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 114
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 550
Interview Marks 300 195
Final Total 1700 745 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-34
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Roll No. : 017422
Name : PRANAY MISRA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 200 081
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 200 074
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 111
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 066
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 134
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 080
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 546
Interview Marks 300 195
Final Total 1700 741 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-38
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Roll No. : 002405
Name : BHARAT SINGH HADA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 096
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 066
BOTANY PAPER I 200 115
BOTANY PAPER II 200 116
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 109
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 093
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 595
Interview Marks 300 144
Final Total 1700 739 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-39
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Roll No. : 005496
Name : BILAL MOHI UD DIN BHAT
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 200 074
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 200 080
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 091
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 090
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 123
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 112
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 570
Interview Marks 300 195
Final Total 1700 765 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-23
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Guyzz ..any idea abt marksheets of unqualified candidates……
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Roll No. : 002199
Name : CHAVAN TUSHAR RAMCHANDRA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE ENGG PAPER I 200 156
AGRICULTURE ENGG PAPER II 200 091
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 102
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 070
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 109
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 093
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 621
Interview Marks 300 170
Final Total 1700 791 Remarks : Recommended.
AIR-12
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@ jyoti….Dentistry background….can u explain it plz…..bcz. im having some problem too..
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@ jyoti..Can u just tell me is it with the arrangement of teeth or..the mini. no. of teeth one should have..bcz i have got 28…:P
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@Chandu and Pradeep
Please post your marks
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Roll No. : 002432
Name : SUMIT KUMAR CHOUDHARY
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
MATHEMATICS PAPER I 200 094
MATHEMATICS PAPER II 200 090
PHYSICS PAPER I 200 081
PHYSICS PAPER II 200 095
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 107
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 085
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 552
Interview Marks 300 156
Final Total 1700 708
Remarks : Not Recommended.
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hi everybody i have got 6 rank in ifs 2012,
my marks are-
Roll No. : 005709
Name : VIPIN KUMAR PATEL
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
BOTANY PAPER I 200 070
BOTANY PAPER II 200 091
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 090
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 116
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 141
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 120
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 628
Interview Marks 300 174
Final Total 1700 802
Remarks : Recommended.
rank-6
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My Marksheet
Roll No. : 027887
Name : TARIQ AHMAD WANI
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 200 061
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 200 071
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 090
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 085
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 163
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 087
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 557
Interview Marks 300 165
Final Total 1700 722
Remarks : Not Recommended.
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Roll No. : 001776
Name : CHANDULAL BABALAL TASHILDAR
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 114
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 052
BOTANY PAPER I 200 062
BOTANY PAPER II 200 096
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 105
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 074
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 503
Interview Marks 300 218
Final Total 1700 721
Remarks : Recommended.
low marks in english and gk! interview saved me!!
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chandu you belongs to which community group
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last year i got 432 marks without any preparation , this year i was hoping 670-690, but can’t pass written , i thought cut-off will be very high but when saw these marks , I really shocked what happened with my answer sheets , this year was a disaster one for me , similarly i hoped better in CS(mains) , but same result there.
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I appeared for the personality test my marksheet
ROLLNO-029744
BOARD-PK MISHRA
BOTANYI =63
BOTANY II=74
ZOOLOGYI=59
ZOOLOGY=111
ENGLISH =108
GENERAL STUDIES=105
PENALTY-0
WRITTEN TOTAL=520
INTERVIEW MARKS 135
GRAND TOTAL 655
REMARK-NOT RECOMMENDED
this time my written has gone very well,last time my marks in gs were 141 and in english128 this time Gs went exceptionalyy well and the situation is this……I couldnt believe that these are my marks…lst time without prep my written total was 590 and this time with coaching of optionals ..its a disaster…disappointing
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@ Sumit and Tariq Ahamad…Juts would like to know on what basis u guys where disqualified..Plz let me know…
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@Vijay……. Cut off for gen. Category is 731. We didn’t cross this mark.
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@Vijay…. *Correction* Gen Category cut off= 731
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@ Aristocrat,,Thanks..I saw that Jyoti has mentioned about some dentistry problem..so just what to know what kind of problem could be serious …so that candidate will be disqualified??
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for obc the cut-off is 681,as I filed an RTI the very next day of declaration of result
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@Vijay….. She is not talking about the medical test. It is the problem with her bachelors degree. Bachelor of Dental Surgery (BDS) and MBBS students are not eligible for IFoS.
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@VIK
hi,
do you have any information regarding reserve list of IFS.
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I belong to minority+obc category. UPSC has opted for rigorous evaluation of answer papers…disheartened to see english and gk marks! Well, thanks a lot to IMG Khan’s board for considering me suitable for the services!!
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@Aristrocrate- Bharath, @vipin27030- vipin kumar
Hello, my name is shashank, I need to talk to you regarding preparation, kindly give your contact number, if u cannot write here, please message me on my number 9894974946 or email me at shashankpansari16@hotmail.com.
I am starting preparing for IFS 2014 and I need guidance.
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my friend Tushar Chavan (AIR 12) has shared tips for cracking IFS ….his optional subjects were agri. engineering and forestry….here is the link to the pdf file
http://www.4shared.com/office/p84h53Zi/Tips__Books_for_IFoS_by_TUSHAR.html
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My marksheet ( didnt get through the interview)
Roll No. : 015650
Name : PREETHA SKARIA
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 076
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 078
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 068
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 061
GENERAL ENGLISH 164
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 127
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 574
Interview Marks 135
Final Total 709
Remarks : Not Recommended.
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@Saawra
I too am very much disappointed with this year’s paper evaluation. When I wrote this exam in 2010, I got 798/1700 without reading a single line. This year, with a little bit of preparations I expected at least 50 points extra. But alas! I didn’t qualify the written even. God knows who checked my papers. I am starting to believe in luck and destiny…..
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in ifs notification they have mentioned that mbbs r not eligible, they ve not specified about bds, homoepathic, ayurvedic background.just think about if bds r not allowed then why upsc selected for mains and interview.
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@ shreya marks of written non-qualified posted, ENGLISH destroyed me , last year i correctly attempted of 180 marks got 097 , this year 265 was correctly & very well attempted got only 057 , on other hand in GK i got 119 marks very good.
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Hi All,
As we are speaking about Marks & Evaluation, I have a small doubt. Suppose, there is a numerical question in Sap Physics, maths, Statistics or mechanical Engineering paper for Say 15 marks. Suppose we start answering to it. After Solving the anwsere, by mistake you miscalculate & final answere goes wrong.
So my question is: Do you get partial credit for this? or we get no marks for the perticualr question?
Bcoz i had a similar experience in State Service Exam Forest Exam of maharashtra!
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Guyzz….can we get our answer sheets through rti…does any1 knws……..plzzz reply
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Well UPSC is wierd i would say…………..I saw my written marks(written not qualified)….it shows me as ABSENT while I was present……….SHOCKING!
Can any one tell me what was the cutoff for interview/written qualified for Gen category?.not the final cutoff…………is it around 500-510?
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any idea about GK cut-off
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wat
ll b the min. marks to get fr qualifying IFS mains……….
guess…|
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@vijay…..I dont get what kind of basis are you talking about?
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@Shikha & Shreya……every year the style of evaluation changes. The model answers and the marks to be awarded on every step of the answers are specified by the UPSC to its examiners. In any case, if the level of marks are low, it is for every candidate. This time everyone got low level of marks as we can predict from the cut-off. Dont think there is any discrimination about it from UPSC’s part. But I agree that there is a little bit of subjectivity in evaluating the answers by examiners, but its only a minor one.
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@priya i m also preparing with veterinary sc. and zoology. can i contact u.
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Hi shikha,
I get what ur sayin..it went the same for me.In 2010 I wrote the exam on a whim,got so bored writing bot-1 that I didnt appear for second paper,even then I had scored more than 35.This score is beyond credibility to me.I am putting down my marks here.
IMG KHAN board
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
BOTANY PAPER I 034
BOTANY PAPER II 090
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 099
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 081
GENERAL ENGLISH 146
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 072
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 522
Interview Marks 200
Final Total 1700 722
Remarks : Not Recommended.
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@chandu Bhai: Aapka link kaam nahi kar raha hai..I mean document doesn get downloaded :(.
Can you upload the same doument to Scribd.com after registering once with the same file name?
Thanks a lot 🙂
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@@sahil kesar…wellI filed anRTI to see my evaluated answer sheets..but I got a reply that the matter is sub-judice in the honourable supereme court of india so this request cant be allowed..so iamactually in the process of verifying the same…..if not ,then CAT is there…..
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@shikha bt supreme court already gave a ruling dat in aug 2011 dat students can obtain their evaluated answr sheets as it comes under rti…so m goin to file an rti regarding my answr sheets nd letz c …wt hppn
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Friends,
I should not say this, but I think there was something very wrong with last year exam’s paper evaluation. I can’t believe that I got only 49 in G.K. I definitely didn’t do that much bad. Now UPSC won’t respond to RTI. What is this happening? Should we write this exam now onward by believing on our lucks???
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@ Shreya
Were your other papers evaluated?
I got 23 and mine wasn’t?
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@shreya nd @abhitesh….guyzz same case wid me…got only 52 in gk..nd remarks were ur other papers were nt evaluated as u havnt crossed d cut off…waz d hell goin on….i havent done so bad……….infact i calculated abt 120-130 marks in gk……….wat shud we do guyzzz…..
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karam karo phal ki chinta mat karo….
prelims ki kitni cut off ja sakti hai for ifs
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koi statistics ki coaching hai kya delhi mein..
please reply very urgent..
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@Abhitesh
Rest of my papers were not evaluated as expected as I didn’t cross the cut off…It seems that the strictest professor of India checked our papers..Never mind…Tragedies keep on happening in lives…Lets prepare for the next…We have to only work…Results are not in our hands as already said…
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@ les miserables….ifos ki koi alag cut off nhi hogi …it will b common 4 both ias n ifos….i guess between 205-210
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please someone tell cut-off for the written exam this year…..I am being shown as absent by mistake in one paper by UPSC…because of which it seems I did not get call….
Roll No. : 025363
Name : SANJAY SHARMA
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 087
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 097
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 061
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 ABS
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 108
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 107
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 460
Remarks : Written NOT Qualified.
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@@shruti the procedure for filing the RTI is mentioned in the RTI section of UPSC website …first chart out what do u wNT TO KNOW….then write a application to the CIPO in a convincing language under section 8 of the RTI act 2005….with a 10RS stamp available in the post offce located near the facilitation counter…then submit at the facilitation counter,they will give U the reciept along wid the number(RTI)..U will get the reply within 30 days of filing the RTI..surely.
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@sanju
cut off issi ke aaspaas hai.
per kuch bhi ho apka case genuine hai.
UPSC essko jarrur adress karegi.
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Thanks Kapil…..isi ke aaspaas matlab around 460-480 for general category?
I dont know whether to file RTI first or a court case directly?
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you need to create an account in http://www.4shared.com to download the file.
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@sanju
yaar tumhara ek paper ke number hi count nahin hue hai.
aur jaldi kuch karo nahi to upsc as per rule sari copy destroy kar degi.
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Any1 having subjects bot. N zoology…can catch me on fb…..sahil kesar….nd ma e.mail.id-sahilkesar92@gmail..com
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sd
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n marks sheet of unlucky me.
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 100
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 084
BOTANY PAPER I 200 016
BOTANY PAPER II 200 071
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 112
GENERAL Knowldg 300 078
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 461
Remarks : Written NOT Qualified
i wish i cud get revaluation done for Botany paper..it wud hv made a big diff in final score..i din do it tht bad…
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@shil
it too low in Botany…………r u aware of the cut-off?…is it close to 461-480?…then u may try filing RTI
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@ sanju
ya..will have to..am nt aware of the cutoff..but clearly it looks smwhr near..provided i get my Botany paper 1 revalued..
BTW u hv a fair gud chance once u get ur ABS paper valued..gud luck.Go for it
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@ Chandu: bhai do u have any idea that where to send original B.Sc. certi in case of condiional candidature… UPSC or Ministry of Env & Forest…. I have received a letter from ministry regarding this issue…. the letter shows 25 candidates having conditional candidature…
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I am a chemical engineering graduate (b.tech).
Am i eligible to write IFoS exam?
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hey guys those who have passed , will anyone please tell what is the paper work after result. i mean till what time one can continue paid job before joining ifs. is there any legal paper work which stops doing job between 4-5 months time between result and actual joining.
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Can anyone put up the cut off marks of SC candidate in IFS- 2012…
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anybody applying for rechecking?
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anybody applying for rechecking?
If any body knows the procedure Please let me know.
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@kapil
do it fast…coz as per the record retention schedule of UPSC they will destroy your mains answer sheet 45 days after marks have been displayed on their website… unless u file any RTI/Court Case in that period
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@sanju.
I know the procedure to file RTI but not for revaluation.
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I love your blog.. very nice colors & theme. Did you create this website yourself
or did you hire someone to do it for you? Plz answer back
as I’m looking to create my own blog and would like to know where u got this from. cheers
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to those all successful candidates who clear this year ifos exam with zoology and botany as a subject please share your sources of preparations like book list which you have followed for each subject,any coaching if you have joined and the way how you studied each paper.
it will be great help for us as these optional papers strategies are not available easily on net.
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Hi All….adding to the above asks…Did Any one had any exp of coaching @Evolution? Plz share! or planning to join the same this summer?Just shocked by looking at the mains coaching fee (approx of 1.3 L) 😦 😦 😦
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any body knows about sc, st, obc and general cut off marks
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Hey:-) ….
Everybody,,!
I m going to appear ifos exam in 2014 with zooogy and botany as optionals,,,,ll try to get with AIR 1,,,,,,
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general cut off 731 hai.
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kapil sir tell me the mains cut off marks
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@ daya shankar sir…can u plz mail me geology study material ,ebooks to padathaki_sudhir@yahoo.com.i shall be thankful to u sir…
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RTI Reply :-
Category Written Cut offs Final Cutoffs Gs paper Cut offs
General 497 731 70
OBC 471 681 65
SC 416 653 64
ST 416 668 65
PH-2 282 464 32
PH-3 287 626 32
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hii friends…….
is there any chance of waiting or reserve list in IFS this year ????
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Aristocrat: Tariq Wani — How did you get the marksheets of all the successful candidates? please share the knowledge.
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@All IFoS Aspirants…. Will there be seperate cut offs for CSE and IFoS, or it will be one and the same for both. If the cut offs are separate, then the cut off for IFoS prelims will be much higher than that of CSE Prelims. Because, just 450 cadidates from general category will be selected. CSE 2012 Prelims cut off was 209. This year it is likely to surge by another 10 marks. Means 220 is relatively safe for qualifying CSE Prelims. Does this mean that IFoS Prelims cut off will be above 230? Your views???
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@Harry..u got the RTI reply so soon….that is great!
Thanks for sharing!
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@harry
I have filed RTI for reserve list.let us see what reply comes.
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@ harry thank u for sharing the cut off marks..
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Roll No. : 001394
Name : JYOTI GAUTAM
Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 061
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 021
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 081
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 083
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 114
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 090
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 450
Interview Marks 300 180
Final Total 1700 630
Remarks : Not Recommended
she is sc category
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just see http://ifs.nic.in/
too many candidates have been disqualified in medical part 2.
medical should be conducted earlier as it is causing too much sufferring to selected candidates.
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@kapil. i couldnot find the list of disqualified candidates in the site
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candidates are rejected on basis of substandard vision, height measurement, substandard chest measurement, hydrocele etc in medical examination part 1
what is substandard visison
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power greater than 8 dioptre,squint
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anybody have any information about reserve list.
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please confirm this…in prelims form (ifos)whether we filled the optionals for mains or not???
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@satish yes, we filled the optionals for mains in prelims form
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physical standards .
http://envfor.nic.in/legis/ifs/exam.html
see appendix 3.
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Written csc prelims yesterday….hows exam,,any idea about cutoff and difficulty level?
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cut off of ifs will depend on no. of candiadates who have tick ifs option. if ias cut off be around 210, then ifs cutoff will be around 230.
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very good post
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i am getting 220 marks in cse prelims…what say guys ..am i in IFS list??
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anybody preparing with statistics as optional ???????????
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There will be separate cut off for IFoS Prelims. Just 85 x 13 = 1105 candidates will qualify for mains. For general category candidates, only top 550 will qualify for mains- a herculean task. Hence the cut off for IFoS is expected to be much higher than CSE.
CSE Prelims Cut off trends:
2011 = 198
2012 = 198 + 11 = 209
2013(Expected)= 209 + 11= 220
For IFoS-2013 (expected), 220+10= 230
Infact, it can be even greater than 230.
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One major factor that will be responsible for the sky-rocketing of cut off, is the common exam for CSE and IFos. A large no. Of students preparing for cse with humanities as there optional, will increase the level of competition. Also, there was no separate fee to be deposited, thereby attracting many nonserious students into writing the exam.
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sir my pre marks r 190 to 200 from diff ans keys… n m preparing for ifs… will d cutoff marks for ifs b lower than ias…. will i prepare for mains or not???? plz a quick reply sir.. thankyou
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candidates are rejected on basis of substandard vision, height measurement, substandard chest measurement, hydrocele etc in medical examination part 1 in ifs 2012, even 1 ranker is rejected on basis of substandard vision.now these candidates has applied for second medical board. what are the chances that these candidates appeal will be considered.
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candidates with substandard height and vision will not be considered eligible for service on medical ground.
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please go for medical check up before startng preparation or esle you would prepare, get selection with 1 rank and then get disqualified on medical grounds. extreme miserable condition (les miserables)
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@ all,
friends im gonna prepare BOTANY as optional, im graduated in B.Tech Biotechnology, I cant find any resources, strategy or books required for BOTANY, Kindly help me friends,
PLEASE SUGGEST BOOKS REQ. FOR BOTANY IN MAINS
if u can mail me d book details @ malli90@ymail.com
Thanks in advance
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any body preparing with geology as optional in delhi???
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i am preparing with geology as option…i am expecting 200 in cse…i have doubt whether qualify or not
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@les miserables r u in delhi too.
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@ anant, yes i am in delhi. just started the marathon with geology but economic geology is creating hurdle in my race.
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@vijay ,hw ws exam?
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Any Idea about IFoS Cutoff for this year -CSAT-2013.?
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is actually water tank easily obtainable and not cramped for pouring liquid into?
is actually the pot alone simple to slip into and additionally
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are really the parts that really want exclusively infrequent scrubbing very easy to reach?
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@Sameer: How can u calculate the cutoff of IFoS as 230..?
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@jacklyn. kya baat hai dost
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@les miserables from where you r doing geology?
coaching? books?
name of the books?
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chk dis out fr tips n guidance http://vasaviprakash.wordpress.com/
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@don, i am preparing from brilliant tutorial notes and internet.
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@ kapil
I wrote to upsc asking if i can get my answer sheets recheked i got the reply yestday.very conveniently upsc wrote that there is no provision however they have rescrutinized my sheets and there is no totalling error,answr sheets are intact..blah blah blah……so no use bro.
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@marsilea
I have filed RTI on 18 may and haven’t got any reply till now.how much time they take to reply in your case.
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kapil
I did not file an RTI, I simply wrote a letter asking for an authentic copy of my marksheet and mentioning that I wasn’t satisfied with my marks in bot1 n zoo2 so wanted to know the provision for revaluation of my answer sheets.
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@marsilea
Did you asked about reserve list for IFoS.
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there is no provision of reserve list if case of ifos (RTI reply from Moef)
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can we change optional while filling the mains form for ifs???
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@ Satish yes you can change your optional at time of filling Main form
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@ satish.
Candidates are advised to correctly indicate their graduate stream as required on the form using the dropdown menu. It may be noted that to be eligible for the Indian Forest Sevice (Main) Examination the candidate must hold a Bachelor’s degree with at least one of the subjects namely Animal Husbandry & Veterinary Science, Botany, Chemistry, Geology, Mathematics, Physics, Statistics and Zoology or a Bachelor’s degree in Agriculture, Forestry or in Engineering. Hence the option to be considered for the Forest Service (Main) examination would be shown only to candidates who indicate their graduation in any of these streams/subjects . In case the candidate is eligible for IFS, he is required to select Optional Subjects available on third page only for statistical purposes. The candidate will, however, be permitted to change his Optional Subjects at time of filling of Detailed Application Form . If a candidate is a graduate from any other stream other than the subjects mentioned above ,the candidate is required to select “OTHERS” or “Literature” (as the case may be) in the relevant dropdown menu . In such a case he would be eligible to be considered for the Civil Services (Main) examination only. It may be noted that a candidate graduating in any of the streams which make him eligible for the Indian Forest Service examination, is also eligible to apply for the Civil Service examination.
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@les miserables,
Hii, I have completed M.tech in mechanical engineering, but i want to give Ifs with forestry and geology optional, can you please tell me about geology as an optional and will it be wise to take these two optionals.. Kindly reply
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@shashank
geology paper 1 is easy, general geology, geomorphology etc can be easily prepared from internet.
geology paper 2 is very lenghty and technical. it will take around 2 months to prepare economic geology alone according to my calculations. book list which i have prepared fron indian university websites for paper 2 is
mining by RNP AROGYSWAMY
IGNEOUS AND METAMORPHIC PETROLOGY – JOHN D WINTER
ORE DEPOSITS OF INDIA GOKHALE AND RAO
Economic Mineral Deposits,” Bateman A.M John Wiley and sons, 2nd Ed.
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@ Ies miserable: I am curious to know why despite of being completing PG from Mech. engg. that too from very reputed institutes, you are choosing goeloy & not Mech engg. : Would you like to share your experience..may i can learn from your experience.
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on IFS website (ifs.nic.in) mains exam date is 21 september
on UPSC website it’s 3rd october.
which is the actual?
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hi….if anybody want FORESTRY, GEOLOGY AND MECHANICAL ENGG materials for IFOS . please contact Mr.Priyadarshan 0n +91-9700439452. geology and mechanical engg are from brilliant tutorials delhi……forestry is from an institute in dehradun. cash on delivery option is available contact for further details. bye
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@rushi 3 oct is actual date.
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is there any reserve list for ifs.
entire my dreams were spoiled. i spent 8 years preparation but with in 20 minute interview i was disqualified.
i dont know what kind of analysis is it.i lost everything
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@eg
yaar got reply from upsc that there is no provision for reserve list in ifs exam.
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@kapil /eg : so the vacancies that remain unfilled will remain so? that is a stupid provision .
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@ eg. nothing is lost. after preparing for 8 years, you have become master in your subjects. prepare for NET and become lecturer
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trueman elementary biology 1
trueman elementary biology 2
ncert biology 11,12
textbook of botany AC Dutta
pmt coaching notes
is it enough for botany optional—–please reply
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les misrable i am also preparimg for ifs with geology and forestry….
Just want 2 know brilliant tutorial notes are totally reliable?
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@ranveer no they are not, geology paper 2 is very vast and has not shown repetition of questions. brilliant tutorial notes doesnot cover whole economic geology, igneous and metamorphic petrology and mining. you have to read standard books for these subjects. for geology 1 they are sufficient
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what about Forestry notes of Brilliant?
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Sir, I have a question for you. You were selected in IRS and then in IFS. What were your reasons for giving up IRS, and opting for IFS?
I have cleared CSE and would be getting a Group-A service. Different people give different priority for different services. Although I have talked to a few people, I am yet to get clear idea about the services…So it would be useful for people like me, who do not have proper idea about various services, nature of job, etc if you could kindly tell us your reasons for switching from IRS to IFS.
Thank you, Sir.
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How much to write for 8 marks que in botany,10 marks,15 marks……plz suggest
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Kavita
In general for one mark you have to write 15 words.
So accordingly u have to write for 8,10, 15 Marks.
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can anyone tell me , is there any GK cutoff for mains this time like it was in previous year?
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Can someone guide me for starting preparing for CSAT Paper I and Paper II. kindly guide me I dont have any Idea I want to give IFS 2014….
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hi all…anyone from agriculture optional in delhi…
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Hi anyone needing forestry notes of dehradun, Evolution botany notes and vajiram notes can contact me 8375975986
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any idea about when prelims result for ifos will be declared?
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@ rushi
result will be declared around 31st july…what r ur optionals rushi??
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NEWS CIRCULATING IN THE MARKET ——RESULT TO BE DECLARED ON 27 JULY 2013
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BREAKING NEWS
IFS 2014 PRELIMS ON 24-08-2014
IFS MAIN 2014 STARTS ON 22-11-2014(10 DAYS)
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RESULT IS OUT!!!!!!!!!!
All the best friends…
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How many here cleared prelims?
I am in , writing with Maths and Geology . Anyone else?
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@ Don
I m preparing for ifs 14. How much u expect in prelims?
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IFS: Gen:250, IAS: Gen: 240.
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@don
i have qualified for IFoS mains, writing mains examination with chemistry and forestry
@Yateesh M :my lowest possible score was 245 and highest possible score was around 280 depending upon various keys.
and i was expecting around 265. and second thing worth mention that
IFoS cut off is higher than cse this year.
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@all
What r the cut-off’s…………..for various category?
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hello frnds…i m writing mains with maths and agriculture..anyone else with similar optionals?
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Please post your expected marks in prelims and your result to get a better view of the cut off. Around 1070 are selected for ifs mains
After going through both the list (ias and ifs), i found out that ifs list is completely overlapping ias list. ifs cut off will be higher and ifs list will definitely include serious ias (and non serious ifs) aspirant those who will concentrate more on GS and their only sole optional. so all those who are selected for IFS and are serious only about IFS have a great chance. Ifs now is only about clearing prelims.
I will write ifs 2014 exam with botany and forestry as optional. I allocate 80% of my time in preparing optional and rest for gs, but now i have to reverse my strategy.
Introduction of prelims have completely change IFS exam. It is not only about preparing chapters of optional but smart intelligent study
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Hi ER(endoplasmic reticulum), could you please help regarding Botany as optional, Please suggest books for Botany and your preparation strategy if you wish to share,im graduated in B.Tech,Biotechnology,preparing Botany and forestry as optional,plz help
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@ yatish I was expecting 275-285 ( according to various keys)
I think cut off may be 260+ as many friends having that score is only selected for CS not IFS
@ Kamal We can coordinate/ discuss our Maths optional, I also know a few friends who will write CSM( not IFS) with Maths.
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@mallika
for botany i am referring to trueman elementary biology 1
trueman elementary biology 2
ncert biology 11,12
textbook of botany AC Dutta
pmt coaching notes
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@Don, nitish
Congrats and all the best for mains!
Will u please share book List for prelims?
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hey guys, congrats to all who have passed.
upsc declared prelim of IFS about only two months in advance. so i tried but couldn’t crack it. so i’ll give try next year.
so i want to know that those who are qualified , you were preparing for prelims after announcement for IFS or even before that.
if anyone cracked it in just two months than can you please share the preparation strategy , books etc.
any advice would be helpful to me and others.
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@Yateesh M
i am preparing for civil services examination with chemistry optional that’s why i have opted IFoS also and i have prepared for pre exam with main focus on civil service examination and followed standards books only, name of those books you can get from topper’s blog if you still want to know my booklist then provide your email id i will mail you.
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@ER: I am completely agree with you. I am also doing the same thing just concentrating on Prelims, because there is no such or more weight age on mains optional papers.
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@ER:: Thanks for sharing booklist
Could you please suggest me standard book for Cell biology(Mains) syllabus
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@mallika, i have no idea about standard book for cell biology.
from now on please concentrate on gk and aptitude as cut off for ifs is around 275.
it means you have to score around 115 in gk and 160 in aptitude. scoring 160 in aptitude requires practice and for those who are new to aptitude( botany , zoology, veterinary, forestry students, mendel lovers) scoring 160 in aptitude requires complete metamorphosis of mind and soul.
any biology graduate selected this year for mains?????????
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HELLO NITISH ,
Congratulations for success in Pre. I read your post.please suggest me booklist for pre and which blog you follow for preparation.my email is (vcontactbpl@yahoo.in)
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HELLO Don,
Congratulations for success in Pre. as you mention that in your post ,(one optional is GEOLOGY. i am preparing for CS-14 with GEOLOGY . please suggest me your books and strategy.my email is (vcontactbpl@yahoo.in)
(THANKS),
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hi nitish,
i’m also apperaring with chemistry and forestry in IFoS and chemistry as optional in cse. can u guide me regarding books or coaching material for IFoS which are short and crisp. bcoz i don’t want to give too much time on forestry so i want to avoid reading text books. thanx in advance
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@james
you can get forestry material from jawahar book depo ber sarai,delhi,
use internet for topic wise study and solve previous paper.
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@BOB
http://mrunal.org/category/motivation
here you will get strategy of various topper, choose strategy any one which suits you and follow it strictly.
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@nitish
congrates,dear for u r success in pre ,i am also preparing for ifos with physics and forestry ,can u please refers me some useful books for prelims my email id is (marioquanta@gmail.com),all the best for mains and make us proud…………
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@nitish
bhai thanx for ur prompt reply. can u help me in filling up cadre preference .i mean what should be criteria while filling up state preferences like less political interferences, promotion avenues as we see for cadre preference in ias and ips.
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ifs seats should be now merged with ias exam. no point conducting different mains for ias and ifs
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@james:I am also new to this area,don’t know much about cadre preference,someone who is in service is the best person to contact for this issue,if i get anything useful for you i will share it or if you will get anything please share with me.
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@mario
@All
my suggestion for prelims is that you should prepare it like serious civil services aspirants(IAS/IPS) and going by current situation you need to do more hard work as cut of marks of IFoS is higher.
for strategy related advice: visit link given below
http://mrunal.org/category/motivation
here you will get strategy of various topper, choose strategy of any one which suits you and follow it strictly.
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@nitish
i found this useful ( copied from orkut community for interv prep for ias)
madhya pradesh is the best state…highest forest area, less politics and good respect for forest officers….other preferences can be maharashtra, gujrat , uttarakhand , karnataka and others depending on ur personal choice…
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Hello there! Do you use Twitter? I’d like to follow you if that would be ok. I’m undoubtedly enjoying your
blog and look forward to new updates.
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@james
this is the book list by Tushar Chavan (All India Rank 12 IFoS 2012)
Optional :- Forestry
Main Books
1. Handbook of Forestry part I & II by Khanna and Chaturvedi (for basic understanding)
2. Indian Forestry by K.Manikandan & S. Prabhu ( mug up each and every line in the book )
3. IFS Forestry by Surendra Kumar (for supplementary reading not for answer writing)
Detail Books
i) Principle and Practices of Silviculture by L S Khanna
ii) Theory and Practices of Silvicultural System by Ram Prakash and L S Khanna
iii) Ecology and Environment by P D Sharma
iv) Text book for Agroforestry by Chundawat Singh
v) Forest tree Breeding – ICAR Publication (out of print so obtain old edition)
vi) Forest Management by Ram Prakash
vii) Forest Mensuration by Chaturvedi and Khanna
viii) Handbook of Forest utilization by Tribhowan & Mehta
ix) Forest Policy and Law by A.N. Chaturvedi
x) Forest Protection by Khanna
xi) Forest Surveying by Ramprakash
xii) Forest Engineering by S.S. Negi
xiii) An introduction to Forest Pathology by S.S.Negi
xiv) Hand book of Social Forestry by S.S.Negi
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someone please suggest books / notes for geology in IFOS . will be highly grateful.
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hi….if anybody are intrested in buying geology(from brilliant) and forestry material (from dehradoon institute). please mail me at priya.mech36@gmail.com for further details.
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Thanks Nitish for useful info..will publish your comment as separate post..
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INDIAN FOREST SERVICE IS (IFS) NOT IFoS.. THOUGH UPSC SOMETIMES MAKE USE OF THIS ABBREVIATION AS IFoS FOR COMMUNICATION PURPOSES, OFFICIALLY IT IS IFS
1.It is one of the three All India Services of the Government of India OTHER TWO ARE (IAS AND IPS).
2.IT IS THE OLDEST SERVICE IN THE COUNTRY.. PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS THE IMPERIAL FOREST SERVICE..
3.Officers appointed from 1867 to 1885 were trained in Germany and France, and from 1885 to 1905 at Cooper’s Hill, London, a noted professional college of forestry. From 1905 to 1926, the University of Oxford University of Cambridge, and University of Edinburgh had undertaken the task of training Imperial Forestry Service officers.
4.The modern Indian Forest Service(IFS) was established in 1966, after independence, under the All India Services Act 1951.
IT WOULD BE WORTH KNOWING THE HISTORY AND IMPORTANCE OF THIS SERVICE BEFORE START PREPARING FOR THE EXAM..GOOD WISHES TO EVERYONE..
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@nitiish
thanx for ur information
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plz clarify me this doubt….. is it new development ???
as it is mentioned in ifos notice
25. Candidates should note that instead of separate
Question Paper and answer book, a consolidated Question
Paper-Cum Answerbook, having space below each part/sub
part of a question shall be provided to them for writing the
answers. Candidates shall be required to attempt answer to
the part/sub part of a question strictly within the pre-defined
space. Any attempt outside the pre-defined space shall not
be evaluated
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@James yes this in a new concept applied this year only
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at least 15 friends of mine are not going to appear for ifs mains..in spite of being qualified..!!
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@chandu
sir your friends graduation subject. are they all preparing for ias
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@chandu
i think your all juniors in ignfa will be engineers and mathematics graduate.
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yes E.R……2 of them are agricultural engineers, 1 of them is an agri. graduate and rest all r engineers (non-serious for ifs)
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yes…maybe this is what the ministry wants…
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@ chandu
hi..i m giving IFS mains..could u suggest something for GS about the current portion?? or anything i should take care of before the exams..
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Hello,
Anybody who cleared IFoS exam with GEOLOGY optional .Please share atleast books name .
Thanks
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hi….if anybody are intrested in buying geology and forestry material for ifos….pls mail me at priya.mech36@gmail.com
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hello…. could anybody suggest book list for zoology optional.
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hi..anybody here knows about having the GS cut off as was last year,,this yr too?? plz reply soon
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@ kamal no explicit mention of cut off for GK in this year’s notification.
So in all probability there will not be cut off.
Only reason UPSC brought cut off provision to lighten the load of examiners on account of non serious candidates ( out of 10000 appearing/40000 applied only 3000 have written all the papers.)
But this time they already have their workload reduce as only 1000 copies needs to be checked.
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@kamal
I think you should take care of the presentation of the answers within given word limit. It matters a lot. Pay more attention to the geography-ecology-science n tech part. Don’t miss any 2 markers or map questions. All the best.
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@chandu
thanku for the prompt reply …could u suggest where should i prepare those one or two markers of current affairs in the last days of my preparation like personality in news etc..
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@ chandu
plz share ur mobile no. here or at lucky086@gmail.com ..i just found out that u had the agriculture optional and..i really need some tips of agri..thanks
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HI….IF ANYBODY ARE INTRESTED IN BUYING GEOLOGY (FROM BRILLIANT) FORESTRY AND MECHANICAL ENGG OPTIONALS FOR IFOS .MAIL M EAT
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HI….IF ANYBODY ARE INTRESTED IN BUYING GEOLOGY (FROM BRILLIANT) FORESTRY AND MECHANICAL ENGG OPTIONALS FOR IFOS .MAIL ME AT priya.mech36@gmail.com
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Hi,
Anyone attempting IFos with Maths option this year??
please reply
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@ sandeep
yes..i m with maths optional
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@kamal
What all units r u planning to cover in Paper-1 and 2??
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weather beacon light on vehicle is given to
DFO ??? also about the perks and priviledges
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HI….IF ANYBODY ARE INTRESTED IN BUYING GEOLOGY (FROM BRILLIANT) FORESTRY AND MECHANICAL ENGG OPTIONALS FOR IFOS .MAIL ME AT priya.mech36@gmail.com…………….
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Do we have any non-engineer here? Till last year, there used to be hardly 10% engineer but it seems trend has reversed this year.
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Hi All,
I am working as an engineer. Planning to quit and prepare for IFS. Need some guidance on selecting optional subjects. I did electronics in my UG. So maths is the only subject I have covered more. Little confused about choosing the second optional subject.
1> I would like to know about agriculture. How tough is it?? compared to physics and agricultural engineering.
2>Is It a good idea to choose an optional which I have never studied? If some one had chosen an optional which they have never studied, please share your experience.
3> Physics is in my list for the second optional subject. I would like to know advantages of choosing agriculture over physics and physics over agriculture.
Kindly share your experience
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pls somebody help me in forestry paper..notes / printed material anything ????
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kisi ko market ki khabar pata hai ki kitne candidate out of 1050 are appearing in mains
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@er only upsc will tell 🙂
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@les miserables & don,
I am from engineering background… Can I choose geology as my optional subjects?? Can you tell me the coaching centers available for geology?? I need guidance…. Kindly help.
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@varnam. i am biology graduate and started preparation with forestry and geology optional in july 2012. but afterward realise it was a mistake taking geology optional. and switch to botany and forestry. geology syllabus seems easy but it is a very tough and technical optional subject for freshers.
geology paper 1 is relatively easy and can be prepared with brilliant tutorial notes and internet.(but topics like paleontology and stratigraphy requires time for preparation)
geology paper 2 is very very tough and requires in depth knowledge. you will have to go beyond brilliant tutorial notes, and read standard books like
1. mining by RNP AROGYSWAMY
2. IGNEOUS AND METAMORPHIC PETROLOGY – JOHN D WINTER
3. ORE DEPOSITS OF INDIA GOKHALE AND RAO
4. Economic Mineral Deposits,” Bateman A.M John Wiley and sons, 2nd Ed.
i think this subject is appropriate for those candidates those who have previous knowledge in geology. i wasted 6 months and strongly recommned to go through previous year question paper ( especially paper 2 ) before taking geology.
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@les miserables
Thank you so much bro… I will definitely go through the Q papers…
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FROM UPSC ANNUAL REPORT
Qualification-wise Distribution of Candidates: Indian Forest Service Examination, 2011
Attended the Personality Test Recommended
I. Bachelor Degrees 96 36
(i) Bachelor degree in Agriculture or Forestry 35 12
(ii) Bachelor degree in Animal Husbandry and Veterinary
Science/MBBS 17 4
(iii) Bachelor degree in Physics, Chemistry, Botany, Zoology,
Mathematics, Statistics or Geology 17 10
(iv) Bachelor degree in Engineering 27 10
II. Higher Degrees 145 49
(i) Master degree in Agriculture or Forestry 74 29
(ii) Master degree in Animal Husbandry and Veterinary Science 11 3
(iii) Master degree in Engineering 8 1
(iv) Master degree in other subjects 48 15
(v) Ph.D. 4 1
Total 241 85
OUT OF 241 CALLED FOR INTERVIEW 137 WERE AGRICULTURE AND FORESTRY ANIMAL HUSBANDRY STUDENT.
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WHEN UPSC WILL PREPARE THE ABOVE TABLE FROM 2013 ONWARD. THE NO OF STUDENT WITH AGRICULTURE , FORESTRY ANIMAL HUSBANDRY STUDENT WILL BE 5%( PREVIOUSLY IT WAS 60%).
AFTER PREPARING THIS TABLE, UPSC MIGHT AGAIN GO FOR SOME CHANGES…
KYA PADHE KYA NAA PADHE KUCH SAMAJH MEIN NAHI AA RAHA ????
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best of luck to all those appearing in mains ifs 2013.
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Hi guys…I’m a engg. graduate(Computer Science) this year. Now I’m presently in an IT company. I planned to appear for IFS 2015. I chose my optionals as agricultural engg. and forestry. Since I’m a non-biology student, I find it difficult to study forestry subject.
what optionals would be best for me?
Are there probability of taking persons from engineering graduates for IFS or they take more of Agriculture graduates?
If I take Maths or Physics as my optionals, will it affect my selection?
Are the selection for IFS is more from forestry and agriculture optionals?
pls someone help me out. I’m confused.
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DO WELL IN MAINS…..
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i have recently given my ifos mains with maths -physics optionals. poor attendence in my centre. some are saying that more than 50 percent students did not attend the exam. atleast this case is true in my centre.
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Hi Saanuj,
Can you please upload maths papers?
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@rohit
here is the link – https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxRGHS2dFSw-QWRGbXJFLXNDQzg&usp=sharing.
copy paste this link in your browser.
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@rohit
r u an ias aspirant or ifos aspirant or both? did u give this year’s prelims?what are your optionals?
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@saanuj
Im preparing for both ias as well as ifos for next yr with maths and forestry optional
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@saanuj,
How many questions could you attempt in maths and GK?
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@rohit
gk was easy, though lengthy. i could attempt 250 marks questions without much difficulty, though i feel now that i could have improved the quality of my answers if given more time.
for maths, as u can see upsc has mixed questions from various topics under a single main question in paper 1. this trend has started from last year in paper 1 and is expected to continue. i studied linear algebra, calculus and analytic geometry from section A completely so that i could attempt all questions from section A. questions from section A are relatively easier than section B. for section B, i skipped statics, dynamics and hydrostatics completely due to lack of time and preparing this area is too taxing. i prepared only ordinary differential equations and vector calculus for section B.
this year’s maths paper 1 was easy. i attempted Q1 (compulsory), Q2 and Q4 from section A ( worth 120 marks) and Q5 (compulsory) parts a and c and Q8 (parts a and b). in such a way i was able to attempt questions worth 163 marks. all of them are correct.
for paper 2 i did not prepare modern algebra at all. also i prepared mechanics and fluid dynamics at a very basic level. i attempted Q.1,4,5,6 and 8. for Q1, i did not attempt the second part. for Q5 , i am not sure of the first part, though i attempted it . rest all are correct. my attempt was of nearly 180 marks.
are u an engineering graduate or bachelor/master in maths. in either case opting forestry seems doubtful. go for subjects that u have some background in. forestry or geology may seem easy but appearances are often deceptive. i have seen students getting single digit marks in these subjects. students having a bachelor’s degree in these subjects usually opt it. opting wrong optional without proper thinking can be suicidal. changing optional subject midway while preparing can be de-motivating and stressful. i hope u won’t mind my suggestion.
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gud attempt..saanul and thnx for ur suggestion..ill think over it.By the way im a engg grad
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@rohit
if u are an engg graduate, then go for physics. it is relatively easier than maths or chemistry. physics has a better success rate than other science optionals even in civil services. so if u opt physics as an ias and ifos optional, then u will be spared from taking a new optional for civil services.
taking maths as an optional in ias can be risky.
nowadays questions asked in physics papers in ias and ifos are quite repetitive and straightforward. this year’s physics paper was one of the easiest in ifos. last year too physics ias and ifos papers were very easy and on expected grounds. if u practice from previous years physics ias and ifos papers from the year 2000 to 2013, then your 80 percent task is over. the syllabus of physics is shorter than maths or chemistry and physics paper 2 is quite easy.
For ias/ ifos prelims, try to score full marks in gs paper 2. for gs paper 1, refer mrunal’s blog. he has given detailed strategy for gs paper 1 and many relevant study material for both the papers. remember, ifos cut off is much higher than ias cut off. so, try to score 300 out of 400 in next year prelims to get through the prelims exam comfortably.
here is the link for ifos 2013 mains physics paper
IFoS Physics Paper
Paper 1
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFAVGJVbzROa3pOXzg/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFAMGxzbzBFR3hXdGM/edit?usp=sharing
Paper 2
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFASWhaSkljUUNIdVE/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFASWY2NnRuV2dVNTg/edit?usp=sharing
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@saanuj thanks for the update……
why not merge indian forest service with indian engineering service.
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@biology
only engineers are eligible to write indian engineering services exam and all ifos aspirants are not engineers. then how can one merge these two exams?
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can anyone answer my question above pls
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@saanuj
you attended gk, maths and physics paper… was attendance same for all the papers, 50%
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The objective of prelim exam is to filter serious students from non serious ones. now only 50% are appearing in mains exam. what kind of selection process is this??????
ministry thinks that a person with good aptitude( mainly numerical ability) will be able to conserve (say) tigers better than a person possessing knowledge of habitat, physiology, breeding etc of the animal(zoology, vet science graduate)…..
KAR CHALE HUM PHIDA JAANO TAN SATHIYO
AB TUMHARE HAWALE WATAN SATHIYO
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hey saanuj how was your second optional paper…….
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@saanuj,
How much did u score in prelims?
Is the space given in the answer sheet sufficient to answer maths problems(jus had a doubt what if the problem goes wrong midway n we got to strike and rewrite it again, is it sufficient to answer)
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@biology
attendence was nearly 60 percent in case of english and gk paper. 40 percent in physics and below 40 percent in maths paper. rest optionals i don’t know.
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@saanuj your information is immensely valuable, you will definitely get through… start preparing for your interview… best of luck bro
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@biology
what u r saying is absolutely true. to be very frank, i am an ias aspirant only and not ifos. but still due to common prelims paper for both ias and ifos, i ticked both the options. after clearing the prelims, i thought of not filling the ifos mains form but my parents asked me to attend the exam.
i had already prepared for maths physics optionals for ias mains( before the syllabus changed), so i decided to opt the same optionals for ifos as well. ifos english is easy and ifos gk is much easier and straight forward than ias gs. so, i didn’t have to prepare much for ifos mains.
i don’t have much interest in ifos and don’t intend to join it. i may get selected in ifos this year itself but i really don’t plan to become an ifos officer. i had appeared in indian engineering service exam this year and hoping to clear it this year itself . so, if don’t clear ias mains, i will join indian railway service for engineers( through ies) and not ifos.
many of my friends who got selected in ifos prelims, didn’t fill the exam form!!!.some filled the form but didn’t give the exam!!!. some appeared for the first two papers only!!!. some appeared for all the papers but don’t want to join the service!!!. some are hopeful of clearing ias and ies exams!!!. i hope aspirants don’t commit such blunder next year and only select the service which they genuinely want to join in their prelims form!!!.
i regret my decision of ticking both the options in my prelims form!!!. feeling sorry for students who truly wanted to become forest service officers and serve the country by conserving our natural heritage of flora and fauna.
UPSC too is to be blamed for this folly. changing the ifos exam format all of a sudden was a sheer stupidity and will make a mockery of this public service commission after the results are announced, when most of the ifos posts may remain vacant due to no takers even in general category!!!.
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@vipin
physics was easier than maths and on expected lines. no shocker this time!!!.
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@rohit
i attempted 90+ marks questions correctly in ifos prelims paper 1 and 190+ marks questions correctly for paper 2. i don’t know my exact marks. it will be revealed by upsc next year only after the completion of this year’s exam.
space provided was sufficient for a few questions. i felt there was a paucity of space in lengthier questions, so it’s better to avoid unnecessary steps in them. last few pages were given for rough work but i didn’t use it due to lack of time!!!. u should think before u write as if u strike down an answer, u won’t be getting any extra sheet for the same or an extra question cum answer booklet!!!.
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@biology
thanks. r u preparing for next year ias or ifos prelims???
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@saanuj, bro i am preparing for next year ifos prelims (only ifos aspirant)
got 250 this year, ticked only ifs option…was shocked, with the cut off around 280… my options are botany and forestry.
bro can you give me any advice on how to proceed with my preparation…do you think is there any need to prepare for mains exam.. i think only clearing prelims would be sufficient… because this year ifos cut off will be around 300 as ifos aspirants are only preparing for prelims now
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@biology
don’t take any stage of the exam lightly. the scenario may change next year. as per upsc academic calendar for 2014, ias mains 2014 is just 15 days after ifos 2014 mains. therefore, only serious ifos aspirants
may only apply for the exam since preparing for two upsc exams within a month could be tedious. upsc may also apply a minimum cut off for gs paper 1 from next year. so, next year more students may come to write ifos mains exam with a thorough preparation (since they are the serious ones and preparing only for ifos and not ias). the competition will again intensify in ifos mains then. however, if u are fully prepared then it doesn’t matter.
for gs paper 2, practice,practice and practice!!!. enjoy doing it and give as many mock tests as possible. refer previous years question papers of cisf and capf (both these exams are conducted by upsc) and practice questions asked on logical reasoning, analytical ability, numeric analysis and data interpretation from them. some questions asked have been repeated in gs paper 2 as well.
for gs paper 1, read ncert books (not once but atleast five times) followed by nios material and then refer mrunal’s blog. read all his articles from geography, environment and ecology, science and tech, polity, economics etc. the best thing would be to read everything written in his blog relevant for ifos exam. though it is a time consuming process but worth it. read the editorials of hindu and current event updates from pratiyogita darpan.
if u study in this way, u will definitely sail through the hurdle of prelims.
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@biology
also solve relevant areas of syllabus from previous years question papers of other exams conducted by upsc such as ias, cds, na/nda, scra, ies(general studies portion only), cms(only the general ability part), stenographers exam(only the general studies portion)etc. this will provide sufficient practice for gs paper 1. best of luck!!!.
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Dear Saanuj,
I read your comment ,Please share, what is your possible pre. score in IFS and IAS 2013 exam .all the best for IFS and coming IAS exam.
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@bob
my possible pre score for ifos prelims is nearly 295. my ifos mains exam is already over. anyways thanks.
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@ Saanuj
hey saanuj what is your optional for ias main examination…. ??
mine is mathematics if yours is same we can discuss our doubts and
strategy…..
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@vipin
sorry dear!!!. my optional is physics for ias mains since i have a firmer hold on the subject compared to maths. maths is my ifos second optional.
since, i was preparing for maths only for ifos mains and not ias mains, therefore i skipped certain topics mentioned in the syllabus which i have mentioned in my earlier posts which cost me a few marks. nevertheless, best of luck and try to cover the entire maths syllabus for ias mains since nowadays upsc question papers cover the entire syllabus.
refer prakash rajpurohit’s blog for the detailed strategy for maths. did u qualify for ifos prelims? what are your ifos optionals?
were u able to solve ifos mains 2013 maths paper completely?? how was the paper- easy, average or difficult??. some questions from this paper can be repeated in ias mains as well. so, practice them. also refer mrunal’s blog for ias mains gs papers preparation tips.
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@all
aspirants with physics as ias mains optional refer abhijeet agarwal’s blog for detailed strategy and tips. his blog is extremely useful!!!
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@saanuj …. everyone who is eligible for the service will tick both option….
so that they can have a feel of ias mains by giving ifs gk paper, only for practice. i dont think there is need to study for mains from now. prelims cut off will be very very high
the notification date is 17 may 2014 so any change in the exam would be out by this date which would be too late…. so i think serious ifs aspirant should prepare only for prelims……..
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ifs aspirant ( general category) target should be 300 (120 + 180).
hahahaha .. i donot know what a biology student is thinking right now who has hated solving numerical ability question throughout his life…now getting 180 in numerical ability paper….
“”NO COUNTRY FOR BIO MAN””
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@saanuj
i m preparing for next year……your attempt in maths paper is really very good…… how was your physics optional paper how much correct u have attempted in physics paper this time…….
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can anyobe please upload PHYSICS & CHEMISTRY PAPER OF THIS YEAR MAINS thanks
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@biology
few of my friends with agriculture and geology optionals said that the attendence was nearly 80 and 90 percent respectively in case of these optionals. chemistry fared worse than maths and physics with only 30 percent attendence. seems subjects generally opted by engineering graduates have recorded much lower attendence than biology allied subjects. so, please don’t be overconfident and prepare for mains too!!!.
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@ indianforestservice
maths and physics ifos mains papers have already been uploaded in previous posts. no idea about chemistry!!!.
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@vipin
my attempt was of nearly 184 and 192 marks respectively in physics paper 1 and 2.
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@saanuj i think you will be this year ifos topper
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@all …given the low turnout in the mains exam..and the fact that there has been an initial filtering through prelims this time….what are the possible impact on cut off this year? can it be expected to be lower than earlier?…i am a SC candidate primarily a civil service aspirant and have written the IFS exam first time with geology and agriculture as optional
1) The english and GS paper seems to be quite well
2) Agriculture paper 1 seems well…wrote on basis of Geography option
3) Agriculture paper 2 was a disaster
4) Geology …was below par…on the basis of my Geography option
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@indianforestservice
chemistry paper https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B8nGUz_toPnfRWFMSWhMczllbmM
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@james: Thanks alot
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Sudhanshu Shekhar….. wrote:
> ** > james commented: “@indianforestservice chemistry paper > https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B8nGUz_toPnfRWFMSWhMczllbmM” >
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Please share the link of IFoS 2013 PHYSICS paper.. i looked up in above discussion but couldn’t find it. Thanks
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@ indianforestservice
here is the link
IFoS Physics Paper
Paper 1
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFAVGJVbzROa3pOXzg/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFAMGxzbzBFR3hXdGM/edit?usp=sharing
Paper 2
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFASWhaSkljUUNIdVE/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFASWY2NnRuV2dVNTg/edit?usp=sharing
ifos maths paper link
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxRGHS2dFSw-QWRGbXJFLXNDQzg&usp=sharing
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Link to english paper please On Oct 19, 2013 8:55 AM, “Sudhanshu Shekhar…..” wrote:
> ** > saanuj commented: “@ indianforestservice here is the link IFoS Physics > Paper Paper 1 > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFAVGJVbzROa3pOXzg/edit?usp=sharing > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFAMGxzbzBFR3hXdGM/edit?usp=sharingPaper 2 > https://docs.googl“
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@indianforestservice
i have provided the link and someone deleted it. here it is,
IFoS Physics Paper
Paper 1
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFAVGJVbzROa3pOXzg/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFAMGxzbzBFR3hXdGM/edit?usp=sharing
Paper 2
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFASWhaSkljUUNIdVE/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B35TcEzy3pFASWY2NnRuV2dVNTg/edit?usp=sharing
ifos maths paper link
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxRGHS2dFSw-QWRGbXJFLXNDQzg&usp=sharing
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got through this link . u will get it.
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs?cmm=23492063&tid=5931334984435242746
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thanks a ton
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Sudhanshu Shekhar….. wrote:
> ** > james commented: “got through this link . u will get it. > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs?cmm=23492063&tid=5931334984435242746” >
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guys how was forestry papers?? please post the link..thanks
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@saanuj …sabse bade stud tum hi ho lagta hai..maths bhi..physics bhi.aur engineering services bhi…
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fekne mein kya jata hai………..jupiter ke escape velocity ko paar karna hain ki nahin?????????
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@james
that’s your perception dear!. anyways, i am not going to get anything by impressing you or others over here!. i was asked a few queries, so i replied it. if u think it’s arrogance, then that’s your call. i won’t give any justification for this. anyhow, best of luck for your future endeavours.
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@saanuj ……. chill man
can you make a wild guess on how many candidates attended all the exams out of 1050
a) 300
b) 400
c) 500
d) 85
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85
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@biology
most probaby in the range of 300-400. i can’t say the exact number.
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@biology
i mean most probably in the range of 300-400.
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@biology
may be even below 300. it’s very uncertain.
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@saanuj.. so all those who attended all the exam will be facing interview
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@saanuj bhai aapne to dil par le liya. maine to just apne upar comment ko hawa dene ke liye likh diya tha.. sorry if it offended you.
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@biology… That wud be wonderful to think so.. that all who attended all exams will be called interview. 🙂 But the possibility is almost ZERO…
Out of 1000 odd candidates, around 550 would have attended all exam… I’m saying this based on the attendance in Chennai centre alone.. Around 75-80 people out of total 123 have appeared for all exams. Delhi centre will have highest headcount.. Based on other forum discussions, Delhi should have 350 people who appeared for all.. The other centres put together around 100.. Approx 550..
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So out of this 550 odd people a min of 400 would have written with some level of preparation.. Out of this number around 200-220 may be shortlisted for interview.. A min of 100 people would have been serious contenders who have common optional, who are punters in gs/eng etc., So in the rest 100 odd people the competition may be high because of not much difference in the content. same level of preparation etc., So ideally we can expect neck to neck competition here too..
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saanuj bhai this mexican (dan joh pri) is saying 550 attended, your estimate is 300.
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@james: Please upload English paper of IFoS 2013. Thanks in advance
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Sudhanshu Shekhar….. wrote:
> ** > biology commented: “saanuj bhai this mexican (dan joh pri) is saying > 550 attended, your estimate is 300.” >
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plz upload zoology, forestry, botany paper of 2013…..
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can any one confirm to me that whether B.PHARMA graduate are eligible for IFS exam r not?????plzzz
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if b.pharm students bring equivalent certificate then they are eligible
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@ babu…
dear, can u elaborate the process, authority by which i can get equivalant certificate..plzzzz
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contact your university they will check criteria and will provide nthe equivalent certificate.
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thnx dear….
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no..b.pharma is not eligible
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dear satish
r u sure about it?
as i know some of the graduate in microbiology,biochemistry,industrial microbiology, are selected for IFS. how this possible?
as B. Pharma graduate we read organic chemistry in 2-3 semester, and as per UPSC notification for IFS eligibility u sud have any one of the subjact in your graduation like chemistry,zoology…..etc?????
plzzzz justufy and give your openion….
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dear SHUDHANSHU SIR…
can u confirm plz B. PHARMA graduate are eligiblr for IFS or not????plz sir…i am in great trouble…even UPSC is not give any clear answer through RTI, their reply was just simple….as plz follow notification….
plzz sir giv your view???????????????
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I will check and let you know!
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THANX SIR…I WILL WAIT FOR YOUR OPINION….PLZZZZ
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dear sir…plz check my eligibility….if u can…i will be highly oblize….
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dear sudhanshu sir….plz confirm about b. pharma graduate eligiblity for ifos exam????
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@ dharmendra,, no b.pharma is not eligible..just having 1-2 subjects at graduation is not sufficient..u need to have a graduation degree in any of these subjects..even bio technology is not eligible..
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DEAR SATISH,
plz refer this notice by UPSC, and concentrate on ”one of the subject,, what dose it mean? ? also concentrate on last line ” or as equivalant to……..
plz give your idea..as i am preparing for it from more then 6 month …m i wasting my time? going at wrong path?? plzzz may i know r u ifs aspirant or selected IFS???? plz dear
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(iii) MINIMUM EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS:
The candidate must hold a Bachelor’s degree with at least one of the subjects namely
Animal Husbandry & Veterinary Science, Botany, Chemistry, Geology, Mathematics,
Physics, Statistics and Zoology or a Bachelor’s degree in Agriculture, Forestry or in
Engineering of any of Universities incorporated by an Act of the Central or State
Legislature in India or other educational institutions established by an Act of
Parliament or declared to be deemed as a University Under Section 3 of the University
Grants Commission Act, 1956, or possess an equivalent qualification.
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Dear satish…my degree is basicaly extension of chemistry. and i am sure that i personaly know a gyz having graduation in INDUSTRIAL MICROBIOLOGY…. got top 10 rank in 2010 IFS EXAM…
u dont think that UPSC notification indicate toward that u sud hav a science background…plz also read this…
UPSC notice –
Note III : In exceptional cases the Union Public Service Commission may treat a
candidate who has not any of the foregoing qualifications as a qualified candidate
provided that he/she has passed examination conducted by the other Institutions, the
standard of which in the opinion of the Commission justifies his/her admission to the
examination.
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English paper link….please
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Dear Friends,
My question is, there are any filter in Civil Services Preliminary Examination stage which stops the those candidates who don’t have IFoS educational qualification.If it is not,then any candidate mark the both option (IAS and IFS).then after the pre he/she gives the IAS mains and saying I am IAS guy , don’t serious for IFoS… IN this situation serious IFoS aspirant never attend the IFoS mains, because of high cutoff marks in pre.
( anyone have answers this que. Please share your views)
Thanks
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@ BOB,
dear bob..at the time of form filling thr was option for IFoS ( having one of the subject at graduation level) and those subject were 100% science background….so all b.tech, B.Sc (math, bio,…xyz) were eligible…except art and commerce…but for IAS all are welcome as u know…
apart from this i think UPSC will try their stratgy specialy when about 30-40 % aspirant attend IFoS mains exam this time…
i think thr sud be separate pre exam with specific syllabus suitable for forest service…..
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@dharmendra …..persons like satish are those peoples who do not have any knowledge about anything their main aim is to make rumour ….satish abe I am preparing form last one year ….I am BSC biotechnology and one of friend was selected in 2010 she is presently posted in Pali district.. so I have already cleared from UPSC that we all are eligible but In case of B. pharma they do not have any of the mention subject so satish beta hawa me teer mat chala ,,ata hai to he bola kar …
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@ SANDEEP
dear am 1000% agree with you….dear we had chemistry in 4 semester even in one sem we also hav env & ecology….y d way plz elaborate your openion on my issue….that b. pharma eligible r not??? equivalent to which degree….or can u confirm frm any frnd r source….so plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz dear…..
even Dr. abhishek ( director of EVOLUTION coaching ( brand name in IFS coaching) make sure me that b. pharma are eligible….wat u say???? plz confirm with ur BIOTECH FRND (IFS)……plzz dear
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@ Dharmendra You are eligible . I have seen people with B.pharma attended IFoS interview with me this year. The staff at UPSC at time of interview was only checking degree and in case of unusual degree ( as yours) , marksheet also and you have to show them that you have studied chemistry ( or whatever applicable) during your graduation.
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@ don,
ohh realy…thnx bro….!!!!
i was so worried about it. gud luck!!!!
plz give ur mob no r email id…..wanna somthing discuss wid u..plzzz
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@ don…
dear plz giv your mail id and mob no….itz urgent for me..
dsingh1202@gmail.com
09560539040
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zoology, botany, forestry paper 2013…any link?????
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english paper
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HI….IF ANYBODY ARE INTRESTED IN BUYING GEOLOGY (FROM BRILLIANT) FORESTRY AND MECHANICAL ENGG OPTIONALS FOR IFOS .MAIL ME AT priya.mech36@gmail.com…………….
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sample plz????
dsingh1202@gmail.com
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sample for forestry notes….
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@dharmendra go sometime in UPSC delhi and there clear your doubts this will be good for you,,,As per my information your are eligible and come in the equivalent degree. …so firstly confirm it with a liable person and then start preparing 🙂 best of luck
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@ sandeep..
thnx lottz bro…i mt UPSC personally IFS department..even also contact MoEF …but they ddnt reply clearly and always say go for notification and finly we will consider at the time of final result by equivalent criteria…even tehy ddnt reply by RTI…..
well thnx for ur valuable suggestion…gud luck to u also!!!
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@dharmendra : clear your doubt only from reliable source( upsc, moef, ignfa) …. mbbs and bds are not eligible as upsc consider it as a professional course. i think b pharma is a professional course…
if you know anyone who is b pharma graduate and is ifs or you have cleared your doubt from a reliable source mentioned above.. then only start preparation,…
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@biology,
dear..b. pharma is not a professional course,as mbbs,bds,bpt(physiotherapy), Bsc (nurshing, medical lab technology,) even b. pharma is not a paramedical course….itz just extension of chemistry…even b. tech also are profsnl course…thn y b .tech eligible???
y d way m just trying to explain…may be i m wrong….
dear..i hv contact UPSC, Moef..personally n RTI…but they always say only one thing plz go to notification..and in case of any doubt we look at the time of interview during check the document..as your degree fall under our consideration and equivalent criteria or not…so ultimatly they ask to me through an arrow in dark…in this situation i cnt giv my 100% to preparation……
sitttttttttttttttttttttttt………………………………………………..!
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HELLOOO…….IS THEIR ANYONE ….WHICH CAN JUSTIFY MY ELIGIBILITY…??????????? PLZZZZ HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP…
KYA WIDAMBANA HAI….100 LOG 100 BAATEIN………!!!!
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SUDHANSU SIR…WHERE R U????PLZZZZ HELP
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dharmendra yaar when they are taking about the notification then record it or if someone is telling you that we will check it at the time of interview then also record it and send it to the news reporter ..and usko batao ke ye log keh rahe hai k complete mehnaat kar ke pass ho jao fir bataege k tume naukari denge ya nai ………..try this within 4-5 days UpSC clear your daubt personally
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@saneep …hmmm dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@DHARMENDRA you can file an appeal within 30 day of reply that you are not satisfied with the reply of the RTI
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@ biology…
i hav done it already…in reply of appeal they(UPSC) provide me a xerox copy of gazzete of india (IFS NOTIFICATION IFS ELIGIBILTY)…….damin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@dharmendra………………hahahahahahahahaha.
contact any student undergoing ifs training in ignfa or go through the qualification of ifs selected students in previous year( it is given in annual report of upsc). if you find anyone with bpharma degree. then only start prep……..
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since the attendance percentage is only 35% in mains.. upsc might change the exam pattern. following are the options
1. introducing new prelims for ifs..( upsc would not introduce new prelims as it has introduced mains to reduce workload and upsc will not increase its workload by introducing prelims)
2. merge it with upsc ias (can happen)
3. increase in percentage of intake in prelims, (may take 30-40% instead of 12-13% presently) (can happen)
4. go back to previous format ( no way, it will be against j c kala committee report of introducing aptitude in selection process)
5 lottery system ( hehehe)
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6. wait up to 17 may 2014…lol
jokes apart….i think thr sud be separate prelims with revise and update syllabus according to need of forest service need…
7.for writ ifs mains u sud score 260+…in pre …wat dose it means your apptitude level n mental ability sud be higher thn an IAS …or this is only mathematical propogandaaaaaa…………..LOL UPSC.
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really I dont know wat UPSC wants from the candidate…..As there are so many students who prepare for the CAT examination having a remarkable grip on maths reasoning and english ….If they appear in that CSAT exam they will definately clear it with a good margins from those who are only preparing for civil service …so they all Quailified and after that unko ye pata nai lagta wat to do in MAINS because mostly do not prepares for subjects GS.. So, the persons who are eligible, who are having attitude who are very eligible for post are not selected even in prelims…
2. @ Dharmendra before 2010 the pattern for IFos was different from IAS and As per my experince the level of examination is also very much below than IAS…So, everyone knows his level if someone is preparing for IFos means he knows that I have such a claiber to clear it …..But how such person going to give the IAS exam (now prelims both for is common)..
ARE…!!!! yadi IAS he dena HOTa to hum pehle nai de dete …….but dont know wat UPSC want
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IFS mains is taken in english only.
so for those who select IFoS in prelims should get prelims papers only in english. so that many people who are preparing for IAS in hindi won’t select IFS otherwise they’ll have to give prelims in english. such people pass prelims with reading hindi questions and then they can’t even appear in mains because it’s in english only.
even though only 35-40% attended mains , if there is vacancy of 80-85 in ifs this year and if that gets filled anyhow then i think UPSC will not bother to change any pattern. why will they put stress on their mind if their work is done.
so if those 80-85 vacancies don’t get filled then upsc will go for change in pattern.
most probably they’ll increse qualification quota or they’ll take IAS cutoff same for IFS.
and If upsc gets more upset then in worst case they’ll merge IAS and IFos. they’ll merge optionals subject with IAS. only difference they’ll keep is eligibility criteria of science background for IFoS. hope that they don’t take worst case.
last year for IAS upsc took small change that those who graduate in english medium will have to give exam in english.(declared 8 months before exam) and there was massive opposition to the change. issue was even discussed in parliament. and eventually UPSC take back the change.
for the IFoS , upsc declared prelims only two months before exam. how can one prepare for prelims in two months without even any classes. and compete with those who have prepared for years in classes.
but since people who are passionate for forest and wildlife and giving only IFoS and not interested in IAS are very few , upsc is playing with them without thinking much.
even though I’m passionate for wildlife and for conservation want to be in IFS only , for next year i’m thinking to prepare for both IFS and IAS. i don’t want to take any service from CS but if upsc merge both then next time i don’t wanna get cheated at last minute by upsc.
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yuppp rushi………….!!!!
cant predict upto notification cm…..so continue …continue….
m also hardcore ifs aspirant……..!but upsc ne kahi ka nahi chhoda is baar…IFS likhne ka mauka nahi dia…and IAS mains k liye proper time nahi dia……hhehheheh
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i didn’t even ticked for ias. are u selected for ias mains nd not for ifos? is that so?
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@ rushi….ya got selected unfortunatly for ias mains….but not for ifs……bcz of low pt score….230+….for ifs need this time 260+………………wat about u..
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anyone preparing in delhi
with physics as optional??
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please anybody upload zoology mains question paper…….
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@dharmendra
i met a guy during ifos mains paper( first day), during lunch break and he was a b.pharma graduate. so, u are very much eligible. god bless u and work hard!!!. you will definitely achieve success. best of luck!!!.
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Hi Saanuj
In maths, though you have physics optional, why have u left out statics, hydrodynamics part?
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target 300/400 in prelims 2014
completed laxmikanth
now starting indian culture
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@BIOLOGY GUD JOKE DEAR why are you not trying to go in “COmedy night wiith kapil”
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i am not joking
The cut off for general category student is 275 this year. this is when upsc introduced changes in the eleventh hour. this year everybody knows that only clearing prelims will book them a shot at the interview, so cut off will be around 300.
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from mrunal website :
rti filled on how many candidates appeared for ifos mains, following is the reply;
gk 515
english 511
No. of candidates appeared in subject with
subject code paper I paper II
6. Chemical Engineering 5 5
13. Statistics 5 5
3. Animal Husbandry & Veterinary Science 12 11
2. Agricultural Engineering 18 18
7. Civil Engineering 18 18
11. Mechanical Engineering 20 19
5. Chemistry 24 23
14. Zoology 33 32
4. Botany 51 51
12. Physics 69 65
10. Mathematics 74 71
1. Agriculture 78 77
9. Geology 168 167
8. Forestry 176 175
so only 369 candidates appeared in all the exams out of 1061
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breaking news:
breaking news
only 370 appeared in ifos mains out of 1061
its official
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What the hell they have done. I think serious IFoS aspirants have a very genuine grievance and judiciary will surely favour us.
What should be our demand to MoEF and UPSC?
1.Delink prelims of IAS and IFoS
2.call at least 2000 for main exam
3. Give extra attempt and age relaxation
Give your view guys.
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i don’t care what change upsc makes. we’ll prepare anything. but if upsc makes change then declare it at least year before so we get time.
surprise change one or two months before exam is what i hate. bcaz for entire year you don’t know what to read and then you get shitty surprise that what you read isn’t useful.
since this time only 370 came for mains upsc might change pattern again. but what change? who the f knows. wait for the f surprise notification.
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wat a joke by upsc …serious ifs aspirant have been throw out…i think thr sud be separate prelims for ifs as having special ifs syllabus…..but it sud b clear atleast 6 month ago…not just 2 month ago….UPSC ki dada giri….
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the easiest way to get out of this mess is to merge ifs seats with ias exam.
upsc would not take the trouble to introduce new prelim exam or increase the intake for ifs mains as it would increase their burden.
the no of serious aspirants for ifs exam is not more than 3000. they dont care.
mein to chala videsh phd karne… yahan raha to pagal hui jaunga
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@ biology
Merging with IAS will create bigger problems.
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@biology
indian civil services and indian forest services are both class A services. but, civil services are more prestigious compared to forest services. the optional subject papers in civil services are comparatively lengthier and tougher than ifos. even gk of ifos is much simpler and factual than analytical in case of ias gs. so, merging ias mains with ifos mains would be highly unfair and would cause hue and cry!!!.
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@venugopal
first of all IFS is an All India Service and definitely more presitigious than group A Allied services…….IRS and IFS may be on equal footing personal opinion matters……
and it is also not easy to prepare two science optional and IFS (MAIN) exam is also very tough we can rank it as the 2nd toughest exam after CSE….
Job requirement is that u must have a science background as scientific training is provided …….so merging is not an easy option……
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First go to a district and meet with IAS,IPS and IFS and then it will be more clear……..
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qualified in ies and ifos mains 2013 written exam. personality tests of both these exams are to be held in december. they should have given some gap between these two personality tests as ias mains is also going to be held in december. why so much hurry in conducting the personality tests?. written results of both these exams have been declared so quickly!!!.
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i have not prepared anything for ies and ifos personality tests since i was busy preparing for ias mains exam to be held next month. now, filling detailed application form for these two exams is again a headache!!!. i thought they would declare the results next year, so i concentrated on my ias mains preparation only but the results came as a shock for me!. giving ias mains itself is soaking all my energy and giving two personality tests simultaneously next month will drain me out completely. i think of filling ies application form only for personality test since i am not intending to join ifos even if i clear it. or should i give ifos personality test without any preparation for the sake of practice? . help me out!
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@saanuj Bhai if u r not intended to join u shouldn’t appear in the interview. aap ek needy bande ki jagah kyo khana chahte ho ; only for fun??
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@james
you are right dear!. but i am not the only one doing so!. every year few posts of ifos remain vacant and this year the cases may be a lot more.
salute upsc for this!!!. most probably i won’t be giving ifos personality test but have to convince my parents for this!. or may be i will fill the DAF but not give the personality test. really all this is increasing my blood pressure!.
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@saanuj tell ur parents confidently that don’t worry mom/daddy i’m going to make in cse final result this year n i’m not interested in this junglee job. also i don’t want to deny a needy aspirant his seat. hope this reasoning helps!!!!!!!!!
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hummmmmmmmmm right james and anyone knows that the pattern is again going to be changed ??? or not ?? please confirm it
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out of 370 225 are selected for inerview:-) haaad hai UPSC ke jai
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hello friends,
Anybody selected from madhya pradesh for interview. (my opinion- es bar mains me kuch bhe likh kar copy bharne vale IFS ban jayege because Geo. and For. are not easy )
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@james
how can i say that to my parents that i will definitely get a good rank in CSE whose mains exam is not over yet!. the competition is more fierce in CSE compared to ies or ifos. nevertheless, ies is my back up and rest i leave in the hands of GOD!. it is pointless in giving ifos personality test and my parents are convinced. thanks.
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plz upload zoology, botany, forestry paper…any link???????
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i do not think pattern will change this year..
why would upsc change the pattern when their life has been made simpler by introduction of prelims… only 500 copies to check instead of 10000…
saving paper( environmental friendly pattern). declaration of results within one month..
i am starting to like the new pattern.. just clear prelims….one week study in mains….. interview call…. and then ……
now the catch is about clearing prelims. target should be around 300 for general category
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Hello biology,
I agree with you .according to you possible cutoffs for SC , ST and OBC in pre 2014.
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if u see the trend cut off difference between UR and OBC was 23 marks in 2011 cse pre and 19 marks in cse pre 2012. so if ifos UR cut off for pre 2014 would be 300 then for obc it should be arnd 280
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any body here who is going to appear ifos interview this year with forestry as optional?????? plz share some question related to this subject which can be asked in interview .
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@saanuj … give the personality test. the way you have attended the paper you might be the topper in ifos.
dont worry about the poor candidates who will be at loss when you will leave the seat.. THE POOR CANDIDATES ARE ALREADY DEAD
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I am starting to like the new pattern. To all biology candidates, please do not think its over. we just have to clear one goddamn objective test.
Practice aptitude( its just 10 class maths stuff) every day and gs is all mugging up facts. Mugging is in our genes.
i gave this year prelims and scored 250(160+90). now with dedicated practice it could go up to 180 and 120 can be scored in gs with one year of serious gs study.
There is no point crying that upsc has changed the pattern. they have changed the pattern 3 months before the exam which was totally unacceptable this year. But we do not have any excuse next year.
……and they dont care, their life has been made easy.. so waiting for the notification would be the stupid.
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gs
polity- laxmikanth
geography — NCERT
history–NCERT
indian culture– national open school
economics–mrunal website
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@biology
i am not giving ifos personality test because i have already cleared ies written exam. the personality test of ies is only of 200 marks and rarely anyone gets below 100 in it. so, i am confident of clearly ies exam this year itself with a good rank. so, what’s the point of taking an additional burden?. if upsc had announced ifos written result in the month of jan or feb, i would have thought of giving the personality test since i would be free from any exam at that time but now the scenario is different. in the worst case, even if i fail to qualify to have my name in ies final merit list or CSE, i would give both the exams again but not join ifos. so, u tell me would it be worthwhile to give ifos personality test?.
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few of my friends who have qualified in ifos written exam this year are not interested in giving the personality test. they are saying that they will not fill the DAF. what’s going on??. i don’t know whether even 100 students will attend the personality test. this year’s ifos exam has become a joke!.
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@james
congrats for clearing ifos written exam. why didn’t u inform us that u cleared the exam?
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@james
congratulations buddy. chhupe rustam ho tum!. best of luck for personality test.
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MY IFoS 2014 CHECK LIST
PRELIMS : ?????????
MAINS : DONE
INTERVIEW : DONE
PERSONALITY TEST : DONE
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IN IFS INTERVIEW 2013 (IT MIGHT HAPPEN)
INTERVIEWER : Why you want to become ifs
STUDENT : sir by ifs you mean indian foreign service or indian forest service
INTERVIEWER : be serious ??? do you think some joke is going on here
STUDENT : yes
INTERVIEWER : ok leave it ???? how many types of forest are found in india
STUDENT : sir please dont ask forestry ques.. my optional is political science
INTERVIEWER : but you have taken forestry as your optional in ifs mains
STUDENT : forestry liya tha par kuch likh ke thodi na aaya tha. aap sir mera time kharab kar rahe ho mein jaa raha hoon IAS ki taiyari karne
bura mat manna…
bahut ho gayi vela panti.. mein jaa raha hoon padhne
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@Saanuj thanx buddy.. best of luck for cse mains.
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@ravesh thanx buddy……… but i think this is your first post here from this name on this blog. i never saw your before . how could have i informed you??? ha ha ha.
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@james
you are very true. i never posted anything on this blog though i used to read each and every post everyday. many aspirants who used to post on this blog have already entered the coveted forest services. you are the next one!.
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Saanuj and James, congrats to both of you and best of luck for your interviews. Do well.. Could you please share what are all the books and other materials you referred for GS in the prelims? Your guidance will help future aspirants like me. Please help.
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thanx. apart from what saanuj have suggested, u should go thourgh moef website, annual report of moef etc as there used to be atleast 10-12 question on environment,ecology in civil prelims. follow laxmikant for polity, modern history from ncert and vipan chandra, geography and eco from ncert .u should have much more focus on basic understanding of these subjects. to get the idea of questions; take the questions of last 3 years prelims (11,12,13) and try to solve it.
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@shreya
i am not giving ifos personality test since i am not interested in joining the service. refer mrunal’s website for detailed strategy of ifos/ias prelims and the required books. his notes related to economy, geography, environment and ecology, science-tech, aptitude etc are just remarkable. mrunal sir’s website is useful for other competitive exams also. just go through it and all your queries will be sorted. even then if u have any problem, kindly tell us.
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Thanks Saanuj. I shall go through the website. Hope you will be there to clear any of my future doubts. If you don’t have any interest in IFoS I also believe that there is no point in giving interview. You have a very high chance of getting selected and that too with a good rank. But without any interest even an attractive and challenging job becomes mentally torturous.. Prepare well for IAS mains. I am sure you will qualify. All the best.
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@saanuj
can i know your date of birth if u don’t mind. i am only asking this because nowadays aspirants in their early 20’s prepare for civil services. what is your mother tongue? have u opted hindi for your compulsory indian language paper? i guess you are an electrical engineer, right!. why didn’t u opt electrical engg. as your ias mains optional since u have a graduation degree in it. you also gave your ies exam from electrical branch, right!. then if u would have opted electrical engg. as your ias mains optional also, u would have been spared from an additional subject (physics) preparation. please tell me the reason for the same.
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@saanuj
is this your first attempt for ias? are u not interested in doing your m.tech from an iit? did u give GATE exam for admission into the prestigious iit? if u gave it, what was your GATE score out of 100?
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@saanuj
please reply!. i am also an electrical engineer preparing for ifos. i gave GATE exam this year but scored just 20 marks!. what books should i refer for GATE preparation to pursue my dream to get admission in iit mumbai? i will give ifos exam after completing my m.tech from iit.
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@all
i know this blog is for ifos aspirants only but still i hope u won’t mind if i ask a few questions related to some other exams in this forum!.
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hi all….m selected for IFS interview…guys plz tell me how should i prepare the personality test
..who else here are going to appear in the personality test???
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plz some one suggest books for forestry, as my optional is forestry…………
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from which date in December is the personality test of IFS starting…any idea??
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some one upload zoology, forestry pper for 2013…plzzzz
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Hi friends , I have qualified for IFoS interview .
I received a letter regarding submission of proof of passing graduation . i submitted my marks-sheet of graduation and concerned university have not issued degree of graduation till date . I am given only ‘7’ days for submission of this document from issuing date of letter , i received letter after ‘ 4’ days of issuing now , i have ‘3’ days ‘2’ are holidays . please ,suggest what to do.Is graduation is cannot be taken as proof of passing graduation ?
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bro, don’t worry. just do send the document. don’t worry about time limit. upsc is very liberal in all these aspect . here u have already qualified for interview so they will show much more leniency.
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take provisional degree frm university…very easy …..
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Hello Dharmendra,
For forestry books you must read the comment by CHANDU(NOW IFoS) by the date of MAY 10th 2013 in this blog.
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thnx bro….
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@ravesh
my date of birth is 23rd march 1990. it’s a wrong notion that students in their early twenties prepare for civil services. aspirants from their late twenties or early thirties (here i refer the reserved category) have also tasted success in civil services while working in a PSU or a private company or other government services. my mother tongue is telugu and my compulsory indian language is hindi. your guess is right – i am an electrical engineer. electrical engg syllabus of ies is shorter than that of civil services. question papers of electrical engg have a clear cut pattern and fixed allotted marks for various topics in ies compared to ias where question papers are extremely lengthy and highly unpredictable. syllabus of ias electrical engg has become unmanageable over the years and questions asked at times are beyond any reasonable standard. physics on the other hand is a much safer bet.
this is my second attempt for civil services. last year, i couldn’t even clear the prelims due to low marks in gs paper 1. i am not interested in doing m.tech from iit, so i didn’t give the GATE exam. for GATE exam, refer kanodia books of electrical engg (all three volumes). kanodia books are considered the best books for gate preparation according to GATE toppers.
these books are neither available in market nor flipkart, so directly order them from noida publications website. best of luck!!!
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@saanuj
thanks. are kanodia books sufficient for GATE preparation? kindly give me your adopted strategy for ies electrical engg in detail. please help me out!
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@saanuj
please reply!. i can’t wait!!!
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Any idea about the date of interview?
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@ravesh
first use standard textbooks for each topic and then refer kanodia books.
practicing only from kanodia books is not enough. detailed strategy for ies will be posted after 8th december since i am very busy in ias mains preparation. hope u understand!.
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@saanuj
not a problem dear! best of luck for ias mains.
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@all
question papers of all subjects of ifos mains 2013 has been uploaded on the upsc website.
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interview detail out on upsc website. mine first day after noon session
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@all
today’s essay paper topics:
Write an essay on any of the following topics in not more than 2500 words
1. “Be The Change You Want To See In Others” – Gandhiji
2. Is The Colonial Mentality Hindering India’s Success?
3. GDP (Gross Domestic Product) Along with GDH (Gross Domestic Happiness) Would Be The Right Indices For Judging The Well-being Of A Country
4. Science and Technology Is The Panacea For The Growth and Security Of The Nation.
i attempted the 4th one. wrote it in about 2450 words. english paper was on expected lines, though i felt it lengthier and tougher than previous years.
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plz some guide me books for zoology…..for ifs exam….
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@all
in compulsory english paper this year, 2 essays of 50 marks each, 2 precis was a shock for many hindi medium students. topics asked were also not easy and many students were dissatisfied with their performance in the english paper!
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did anyone get any official communication from upsc regarding ifos interview
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@all
best quality pdf of cse mains essay, english, gs paper 1 and 2 is given in the following link-
http://www.iasrepertoire.com/upsc-csm-2013-question-papers.html
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Hey Folks
Did anyone get IFoS 2013 personalty test call letters hard Copy? I need enclosures of viz. TA Form, Attestation Form, Certificate Proforma. I can’t get mine due to few changes in my communication address.
will be grate if anyone can upload the same on receiving.
regards
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attestation form from upsc website http://www.upsc.gov.in/recruitment/proforma/2013/Attestation%20form.pdf
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thanks james
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plz some one give idea and book list for foretry as optional for ifs…
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@rahul
go for forestry if u have a graduation degree in it. forestry graduates have also agreed that the syllabus of forestry is very lengthy and takes atleast one year for solid preparation. few of my friends have taken forestry as an optional last year thinking it to be easy and now regretting it. they have scored very low marks in forestry paper 1 and 2 even though they attempted all the questions!. now, this year they have changed their optional subject. most of the students who have cracked ifs exam with forestry or agriculture have a graduation degree in it. always go for subjects you have some background in, even though u may feel it’s tough!. rest your wish.
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@sanuj….
thx bro …..but i m b. pharma graduate…so i choos zoology,,,,as i hav good command on zoology…
but for forestry….i hav lot f intrest in it…and as i see d syllabus itz easy and managable….thnx for your support…plz giv some idea about books for forestry…..
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@rahul
syllabus only provides an outline of the topics to be prepared but does not indicate the sub-topics linked to the main topic. nevertheless, if you have confidence in yourself, then continue with it. no idea about books on forestry. let me ask my friends and see. why are u not going for botany?
many say nearly 50 percent of their topics overlap with zoology though the orientation may be different. botany is easier than zoology, i suppose. many say botany papers are predictable and easier than zoology even in civil services. think about it.
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@saanuj…ur ideas are really welcomz…..m just thinking about botan…forestry….letz c…i wll tell u aftr som day…thnx lotz bro
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@ Saanuj,
How did your civils exam go?
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@saanuj
Your posts are highly valuable
“please guide me how to prepare for ifs 2014”
what are the market sentiments?? is there any need to prepare for mains or only one week study in mains is sufficient??? do you think upsc will change ifs pattern since only 35% candidate appeared in mains???
how many out of 226 may appear in interview (if you have any idea)????
i am biology graduate, my optional are botany and forestry, general category, got 250 in prelims this year(1st attempt). how much i should aim in prelims given that upsc does not change the ifs examination pattern?????
i am working as manager in govt. organisation and preparing by myself, so unaware of market sentiments
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@biology…dear which books u r following for forestry????plz suggest
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MATERIAL FROM BER SARAI, JAWAHAR book depot, new delhi…. it contains extracts from important forestry books( photo copies) and internet
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Hey Saanuj ur actual name is saanuj or it is just ur nick name…….??
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@rahul
you seem to misunderstand.
i am asking you to take botany with zoology and not botany with forestry, due to considerable overlapping of syllabus. though it’s only a suggestion.
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@biology
i have read all your previous posts and it suggests that you are a very intelligent person. you know everything related to the exam and have proposed strategy for success in ifos prelims. then, what are you asking me? it will be like repeating the same things you already know.
anyways, here are the answers to your queries -try to score more than 100 in gs paper 1 and more than 190 in gs paper 2 to be on the safer side. all stages of the exam should be taken seriously since the scenario of the exam may change next year, so u should definitely prepare for the mains. upsc may not change the pattern though it could double or triple or even quadraple the intake for ifos mains. no idea about number of students appearing for personality test this year. try to score in the range of 290-300 to secure a place in ifos mains. also, try for civil services. you have potential to even crack it. just go for it!
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sorry shaktiman
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@rohit
my civil service mains exam was just average. couldn’t attempt many questions in gs paper 1, 2 and 3 due to lack of time. my handwriting went bad to worse in last few answers. hindi compulsory paper was horrible. just expecting a pass mark! this is the case with many. keeping my fingers crossed but don’t think will clear mains this time. let’s hope for the best!
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@Saanuj
true I heard same thing from many.
Having finished ur mains, are you attending the IFoS Interview?
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@saanuj
don’t worry. i have heard that many aspirants couldn’t even complete 18 questions out of 25 in gs papers. those who attempted more than 20, their answer quality was pathetic! also, since it’s gs paper, u don’t have readymade answers to each and every question asked. you will definitely get through, i believe that. how was your physics optional paper? were the questions repetitive or was it lengthy? what were the questions asked? how was ias maths paper? did you see the question paper? was it tougher than ifos maths 2013 paper?
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@rohit
i am not giving ifos personality test. i have already mentioned about it in my previous posts.
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@ravesh
thanks. my physics paper went off quite well. all questions in paper 2 was repeated from previous years. paper 1 was lengthy, though not very tough. yes, i have seen ias maths paper. it was obviously tougher than ifos maths.
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guys , what should be dress-up while facing interview in this winter period of delhi , please suggest.
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BEST OF LUCK FOR THE INTERVIEWS…….
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best of luck to all d candidate for ifs interview…….plz share ur interw experiance….
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are how was intrvw…?????? koi to share karo….plzzz
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16 december 2013 david sir board
why do you want to join IFS ?
what is forest right act 2006??
asked some specific provision.
what is PESA ? how is it different from panchayti raj?
what will you do improve the condition of tribal utilising your previous job experience ?
how will you use previous job experience in forest if you are appointed as DFO.
what are mangroves ? what are their importance?
what are NTFP ? what will you do as DFO to increase its marketablity?
what are the problem of scheduled areas? Tell me 2 important step would you take to remove those problems.
apart from thses most of questions were related to my previous job experience , home town and hobbies.
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gud luck dear….whay was ur optional for ifs mains??? n ya wat about attandnce thier???? for intrvw???
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thanx
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@ james bond.. bro, attendance in the interview??????
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@biology and rahul
there was 100% attendance in interview on 17 th afternoon
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@all
so i think out of 226 candidates called , 225 will appear in interview
(226-saanuj). so only 1/3 will make it to the final list. still cut throat competition is there
since UPSC is still getting considerable no of candidates willing to join the service, it wont change the exam format
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@biology
how are u so sure that all 225 students filled the DAF?
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@ravesh.. i have gone through interview schedule on upsc website. They have called all 226 candidates for interview between 16-20 december. now james stated that 100% attendance was there in his slot and saanuj ( our hero) is not appearing in interview. extrapolating all these information i came to the conclusion that 225 candidates may appear in interview.
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@rahul
my optionals were chemistry and forestry
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@ james..ok dear.. plz suggest books , notes, for forestry??? can u provide me some notes,xerox???? gud luck for ur future…thnx lotzzz
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u guys are asking a wrong person all these questions.i’m as novice as you in respect of forestry except i’ve appeared this year interview.actually i’m a serious civil service aspirant with chemistry as my optional. i just appeared in forestry paper with 2 days preparation from book written by manik nandan and prabhu.
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just two day…for forestry…n u got call for intrvw…my god….wat z talent u have dear….howzzz it possible???? plz share
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bro you must be knowing this year prelims was disaster for people who were preparing for only ifos due to very high cut off of around 270.n u will be more surprised to know that who appeared in this year interview prepares cse with humaity subject. at least for me one optional was common.
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prelims is there to filter out non serious candidates. but for ifos prelims filters out all serious candidates of ifos.
anyone interested in writing to moef and upsc that what changes in prelims they are thinking, as only 750 filled DAF for mains out of 1300 and only 500 appeared in GK and english paper and even less wrote optional subject paper. what will upsc do about this little attendance. is anyone writing to upsc and moef? bcaz if this year also upsc announce sudden changes at last moment then same disaster will repeat.
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exactly….
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how to handle forestry???….to achieve gud marks….plz suggest some books…notes????? i wll be really thank full of u…pla share ur mail id, contact no….
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u guys are asking a wrong person all these questions.i’m as novice as you in respect of forestry except i’ve appeared this year interview.actually i’m a serious civil service aspirant with chemistry as my optional. i just appeared in forestry paper with 2 days preparation from book written by manik nandan and prabhu.
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cse mains chemistry paper https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B8nGUz_toPnfMjZpRXNxRC1xWDg
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@all
upsc has uploaded cse mains 2013 papers of all subjects on it’s website. so quick!
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@all
just 10 days over after the mains exam and upsc has uploaded the question papers!. results too will come quickly!
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@biology
you said that 225 students may appear for the personality test. that means you are not sure that all 225 students will appear for interview!
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aree sab kaha gaye…koi to intrw exp share karo…plzzzz
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@saanuj
please post detailed strategy for ies electrical engg as you had promised earlier!. please start with general ability part first. waiting for your posts!
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@saanuj
i have heard that it is difficult to crack ies exam without coaching or average students cannot crack it. i am 27, you are just 23. will i be at a disadvantage in interview?
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ifs 2014 aspirants, dont wait for UPSC announcement. the only change they might do is increase intake in prelims. such information will only be out by may 2014 (with notification). waiting would be suicidal.
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i think so ….plz eleborate disscussion…
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WHAT IS THERE TO ELABORATE. PADHAI KARO…. PRELIMS KI… MAINS TO DO DIN KI PADHAI MEIN NIKAL JAYEGA
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heheheh….dude…yaar giv ur mob no r mail id…
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Can anybody share the strategy for Prelims Paper-II? specially for those who come from not so good background like engineering?
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@JAMES
YOU SAID that you have read maniknandan and prabhu. is it a good book. and where did you get this book
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May be here you get that…
http://www.flipkart.com/indian-forestry-breakthrough-approach-forest-service/p/itmd5y6zxj9etnre?pid=9788183601740&otracker=from-search&srno=t_1&query=Indian+Forestry+by+K.Manikandan+%26+S.+Prabhu+&ref=03f1b0cd-7a7b-4f6e-bdf8-a48a8f00d142
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@all
wish u all happy new year …in adv
dont wait for upsc notification, start preparing for prilims
……
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wish you all happy new year
go go go… dont wait
no matter what upsc changes in ifs. history, geography polity and one science optional subject will always remain. so finish them till the notification date( may 2014)…..
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Happy new year…friends…
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Dear friends,
WISH YOU A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR,
@ biology,
what kind of changes ,you think UPSC will be done in IFS 2014 .I don’t think they change in exam process .current exam process favour them in terms of low copy check burden .
I suggest a very good site for buying books and price comparison
http://www.indiabookstore.net/
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@BOB.
1. they can increase intake in mains
2. merge ias and ifs
3. no change ( in that case the cut off for prelims might even touch 320/400) as everybody knows on this earth that by just clearing prelims they will get an all india service seat)
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There is demand of extra three attempts by IAS aspirants. the govt. negated the demands stating that the changes are minor.
but there should be extra three attempts in indian forest service as they have completely turn the exam upside down. those who were rejected in interview last year could not even crack the prelims. which agency in india is auditing these results ??? Is UPSC free to take any decision and get away easily in case of a wrong decision?????
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@biology
merge ias with ifos. are u serious? you may now say merge state public service exam with upsc! civil service exams are one of the toughest exam not only in india but the whole world. ifos exam is much easier than ias exam. please don’t say that it’s equally tough. i am not saying that ifos is an easy exam. none of the exam conducted by upsc is easy! but compared to ias exam, it’s easy. compare ifos gk with gs paper 1, 2 or 3. u will get the answer! compare ifos english with ias english compulsory( which is said to be of 10th standard!). in ias no options in essay, both compulsory. topics were also not so easy! two boring ,lengthy precis on dry topics( reading the precis even once was torchorus), comprehension again was on a vague topic, not at all easy! and more grammar. in ifos, essays were on general topics, only one essay out of four to be written, easier comprehension, precis on a interesting topic, letter and reports again were on a very general topic and less grammar. the irony is ifos english was of graduate level but was easier than ias english which was of class 10th level! even ifos optional subject papers are shorter and easier than ias mains optionals! just compare ifos mains maths , chemistry , physics, statistics etc. paper with ias mains papers of these subjects of 2013. u will see in ifos optionals, questions are more straight forward and short compared to ias mains optionals. even subparts of a question are less in ifos optionals compared to ias! so, it will be highly unlikely to merge these two exams which require different set of skills and thinking!
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but they have merged prelims.. this country doesnt run on logic
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@biology:Hi,I am also from biology background….and have chosen forestry as one optional..can i have u r mail id so that i can ask some queries?
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Mine is ravi.rise123@gmail.com
Thanks
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May I know what different set of skills and thinking? I have attended the IFoS interview and beg to differ.
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Mr. vivek. can you throw some light on this year ifs interview, like attendance, ques asked, background of students who appeared in the interview. any information that you can share
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Attendance for the session was fu. I will come out with the complete transcript after result. Background of the people was great mostly IITs NITs forestry college etc. People here who did not qualify talk as though UPSC did a blunder and passing the exam a cakewalk, but I feel that its not so.
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@ravi
ifs.biology@yahoo.com
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@vivek
first of all go through the question papers of state public service exams and compare it’s difficulty level with civil services exam. you will find that the difficulty level of papers of state public service commission is not even 50% of that of upsc. this is at least true with mppsc. questions asked in state psc are mainly factual and less analytical. so rote memorization is required even in gs papers of state psc. many questions are repeated from previous years or same type of question is repeated, which makes the papers predictable to a certain extent. here i am referring gs papers only. for optional subjects, repetition of questions is much higher. a lot of options are also provided in gs papers even in simple questions! mppsc mains papers are usually short, still they give 3 hours! if a student had not even touched the newspapers or any magazine, still he could answer most of the questions. in gs paper 1, this year, they asked short notes on RTI, right to education, tides, aquarium,income tax, TRAI, line of control, aadhaar card and virat kohli! questions were also asked from presidential election procedure, democracy and republic, article 370, president pardoning power, caste based politics, centre state economic relations, mixed economy, food security, disaster management, collective responsibility of cabinet,poverty line, fundamental rights in constitution, foreign policy of india , economic survey, state reorganisation process etc. with lots of options!
gs paper 2 seemed to be of 10 standard! such simple questions are not even asked in ifos gk also! again lots of options! difference between absorption and adsorption, biodiversity and species diversity, latitute and longtitude, reserved and protected forest, gram sabha and gram panchayat, mixed framing and mixed cropping, atmosphere-biosphere, dna and rna,vidhan sabha and lok sabha ,agro and social forestry etc.
they also asked questions from operation flood, green house gases, wildlife sancturies and national parks use, pollution and its types, conventional and non conventional energy sources and their development. mp state specific questions were strictly from the syllabus and students those who had prepared short notes for mp specific questions as per the syllabus could have benefitted the most. serious ifos aspirants reading my post could have answered most of these questions now itself without much preparation. this does not mean aspirants writing mppsc are fools or have a low IQ!
here what i mean to say is, difficulty level of papers vary for group a, group b or group c services. all cannot be given paper with the same difficulty! it’s a fact that ias, ies or ifos are all group a category services, but the nature of the services are different. cds or capf exam papers have many defence related MCQs but such questions are never asked in ias or ies or ifos exam. even in personality test for ifos, at least a few questions are generally aked from environment and forest related issues but such questions are rarely asked in ies pesonality test. even in ias personality tests, there is no guarantee that they will ask questions on environmental issues. this is the main reason ifos aspirants have to appear for gk compulsory, which requires basic knowlege of general issues rather than ias gs which requires analysis and multi dimensional viewpoints confronting indian politics and society with a solution apt for the public as well as the administrator!
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so if attendance was full in interview , students are willing to join the service. upsc are getting enough candidates.
i dont think they will change anything. stop speculating about the change– my dear ifs 2014 aspirants. prepare for prelims, target should be 400/400. mains can be prepared in 2 weeks.
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My dear biology graduates
Dont think its over : join some aptitude coaching..CL,TIME, BYJU..paper 2 is very easy. only 10 class maths stuff. if you cant solve 10 class maths ques quickly, then dont cry, you dont deserve an all india service seat.
paper 1 is general. just mugging up
Lets give our engineer brothers a good fight.
This year injustice was there..2 months short notice is completely unacceptable. but there is no excuse this year.
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I am more addicted to sudhanshu sir blog than FACEBOOK. lets give this blog some name —–“”FORESTBOOK””
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@biology true hai boss…
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@biology
there won’t be any change in pattern of ifos 2014 as the next year academic calendar indicates “ias preliminary exam for selecting candidates for ifos mains”. one more misunderstanding is that students who could not qualify in ifos prelims this time was due to the fact that they were from non maths background! i assure u that even without any preparation, one could have solved most of the questions asked in the aptitude section this year. the only problem was time constraint! if given more time,more than 90 percent of the students who gave this year’s prelims, irrespective of their background, could have scored at least 180+ marks in gs paper 2. so practice is very essential for paper 2, since completing the entire paper in time is a challenge and speed is of extreme importance.
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Any info about result friends?
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@biology
why are u ignoring comprehension? in 2011, total questions from comprehension including english language comprehension and decision making was 47 worth 117.5 marks, that is more than half the paper. in 2012, 44 questions were asked worth 110 marks, again more than half the paper. in 2013, 37 questions were asked worth 92.5 marks. the number of questions in aptitude increased in 2013 but their difficulty level decreased!. books suggested in mrunal’s blog need to be referred. no need to go for any coaching atleast for gs paper 2. no point in wasting hard earned money for a screening test! if it was CAT, XAT or some other exam, then taking coaching is understandable but taking coaching for gs paper 2 is unacceptable. even coaching is not required for gs paper 1!. most of the questions asked in gs paper 1 are factual, since analytical questions are to be dealt in mains papers only, that also if u are an ias aspirant and not ifos aspirant. then what’s the point of coaching? nowadays, even questions asked in ias mains gs papers are quite unpredictable to keep coaching walas and senior players at bay. things are easier for ifos than ias. difficulty level of mains papers for ifos are comparatively lower. in any case, one should avoid coaching institutes for prelims or mains or both!. read the required books( suggested by mrunal sir) and practice for paper 2! i have seen many students going to coaching for various subjects for different exams and then regretting the decision later.
thousands of students attend various coaching institutes for various exams. do all get selected? or will the coaching walas return back the money if an aspirant is not selected? if your answer is yes, then i am ready to go for coaching! even in ies exam, most of the toppers have cleared the exam without any coaching! made easy coaching institute( coaching institute for ies, gate and other psu exams) bribe them with lakhs of rupees, cars, laptops, motorcycles etc. to use their name. nobody is saint here! i have joined the institute but even couldn’t clear gate exam. take the example of saanuj. he is much younger than me. he didn’t attend any coaching and cleared ies written exam which is much tougher than gs paper 2!. this is the bitter truth of these coaching walas whose sole aim is to suck our entire money till the aspirant becomes a beggar! no surprise, these coaching institute teachers are paid Rs. 2000 per hour!. if he teaches three hours daily (excluding sundays), he can earn 1,44,000 in a month( four weeks)!. better to become a coaching instructor!
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i am ignoring comprehension because i am practising it by reading mr. ravesh post.
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this message is especially to dharmendar and pharmacy students…..
i am pharmacy student and i gave this year interview …….so friends i can say u all confidently if i get selected and if i get appointment letter that pharmacy students are eligible or not….so dont loose hope and continue with your preaparation so that it can be useful for both civils and ifs…..
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Mr. x . can you share any information about the interview.
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@ mr. x
ohh thnx lottz dear….y d way my best wishez for ur intrvw …plz share inrw exp….also provide ur cont no or mail id…mine dsingh1202@gmail.com
09560539040
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dear…may i know ur name plzz….wannat talk to u…itz urgent…so plzz mail me r call me….
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say me whats the urgent matter…
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dear,
r u sur about b. pharma eligibility for ifos??? what was your optional …..? plz share fullfill streatgy about preparation…how to handle pt as score going beyond 270 cross….plz also giv intrvw details….if possible…ur name plzz
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i will make you a call
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@biology
really! but my posts will give u practice for english language comprehension only! what about general comprehension? next year, it may happen that ifos aspirants could attempt all the questions from general aptitute section but due to higher difficulty level of comprehension, made grave errors in it which led to high negative marking! 4TF questions dominate the general comprehension passages which makes eliminating the incorrect options difficult! better to practice from some quantatative aptitute book rather than my posts! not take risk of leaving this area!
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Hi friends..i cant understand why u all ifs aspirant are doing nothing against upsc’s new patern of combine pt which has proved as fiasco….if we do nothing they might not bring change!! Nd its really injustice to ifs apirants who are screened out at prelims!
Any one has called to upsc or anithong else?
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@aspirant
why do u want a change? concentrate on paper 2 and for paper 1 refer tamil nadu public service commission books along with ncerts and nios textbooks. u will get through! after all ifos aspirants from general category have four attempts for the exam and not one. if u didn’t get through this year’s prelims, not a problem! you are left with three more attempts! prepare well for ifos 2014 which is scheduled to be held in august. blaming the commission for everything won’t help! upsc changed the prelims pattern in 2011, mains pattern in 2013, excluded pali and all foreign languages from mains exam, introduced question cum answer booklets which was a setback especially for students with science optionals since cutting short answers as per the space given was tough since these optionals have definite answers!. aspirants agitated and shouted slogans near parliament demanding increase in number of attempts and age relaxation due to pattern change, but upsc said that the changes were minor and weightage of optional subjects have reduced from 1200 to 500, so students are at gain! really upsc ka jawaab nahin!
always have justification for all of it’s acts!
in 2012 mains a girl named stuti charan scored 247 marks out of 300 in botany paper 2 and a guy scored 1 mark in public administration paper 1.
in 2008, 238 students opted maths as mains optional and marks of maths paper 2 was shocking.
Marks Range(out of 300) ——— No. of Candidates
0(zero)——————————30(every 1 in 8 got zero)
1-10———————————15
11-50——————————–70
51-100——————————-86
101+(max. =160)——————37
average score of the subject was just 54.8/300.
as u can see, out of 238, 30 candidates got a zero and maximum marks obtained was just 160. only 37 students could score above 100. many unlucky guys who had performed well in other subjects, couldn’t get an interview call due to maths disaster! every other optional average score was more than double of maths in 2008. all these aspirants were from iit or were M.Sc in maths, otherwise they were not fools to opt this subject! upsc generally apply heavy scaling in maths paper 1 due to its easy nature compared to paper 2. but that time, it applied heavy scaling in paper 2 too even though the maximum marks scored by a candidate was just 160. there was hue and cry from many aspirants who couldn’t believe they got a zero in paper 2, even after attempting many questions correctly! but upsc didn’t listen. one should thank God that upsc didn’t give marks in negative in maths! maths is one of the subjects where aspirants frequently get a zero compared to other subjects but believe me, the aspirant didn’t leave his page blank to deserve a zero!. seems public administration has also joined hands with maths in the competition to get maximum 1’s and 0’s. what type of scaling technique is this? why are students in other optionals not getting zero similar to maths? and somebody is getting 247 marks in another optional, really funny! many students asked upsc for rechecking their maths papers and even approached court accusing upsc of faulty scaling technique and constant bias in science optionals (especially maths), but what was the result? we all know that! better to keep quiet and study rather than wasting time, money and energy against this undemocratic public service commission(upsc) !
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man, we are not afraid of pattern change. we are passionate for wildlife and we can prepare for any syllabus. but in prelims 10,000 candidates are selected for mains in civil service. but for ifos only 1200 are selected. do you know difference between 10,000 nd 1200. this time ifos cutoff is expected 270. might be even more. people are targeting 300 for safe. now in paper 2 with hard work we might get 180. then also do you know how tuff it is to go beyond 100 in paper one.? that is problem.
ifos mains is compulsory in english language. many civil service ranker prepare their exam in hindi or regional language. after passing prelim with high marks they dont know how to write ifos mains in english. not to mention rankers with humanity subject write science subjects in ifos in poor maner.
again. we are not afraid of pattern change. we are not afraid of syllabus. but there should be equality. if for civil service they qualify 10,000 then for ifos they should select atleast 5000. so that prelim cut off decrease and actual competition, like civil service, happens in mains.
so yes, i also think that some ifos aspirants who are in delhi should write to upsc. but it’ll be better if we write to moef or any ifos secretary. they’ll be able to understand and then represent it to upsc.
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You are too concerned with what was and what will be. There’s a saying: “Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called a “present”.
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@ravesh
I am not afraid
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@ravesh
I am not afraid of this new change of combine pt. i can score 280+. But i am afraid of deteriorating status of officer of IFS as non serious candidates will become ifs without having any intrest in IFS Just because prelims is common. This year out of appx 1070 candidates of ifs pt result except 40 candidates all other were also pased civil services exam. Means hardly at max 100 candidate were ifs aspirant nd rest of all were civils aspirants. That is my concern. Concern for both IFS and IFS aspirants.
I dont ask u all to agigate or protest or filing a case against upsc but just write them,call them as i did n got positive response…from upsc(unbelievable but this is true friends)
so just let them know that there is need for some change like inducting more candidates at prelims level around 5000.
I can post letter which i wrote upsc..!
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@rushi
the number of candidates who are selected for mains depend upon the number of vacancies for a service in a year. your concern is right! upsc may probably increase the intake of candidates for ifos mains from next year, but there is no guarantee about it! who is telling u to score 200 marks in gs paper 1? that is impossible! don’t forget there is negative marking of 0.66 for 2 mark questions of gs paper 1. even scoring 150 in paper 1 seems tough even if the paper is easy! try to score in the range of 110-120 in paper 1( which is not at all tough if u are thorough with the basics) and 190+ in paper 2 which is again easy. don’t try to go for full attempt in gs paper 1 which may prove suicidal!
ifos mains and personality test is already over! so no sense crying over dead chickens! better to leave the bitter past and hope for the bright future which is possible through hard work only! no other option available!
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@ravesh completely agree with you
upsc wont take any decision which will increase their burden. writing to them will not be helpful. they might just increase the intake in mains ( the most convenient step) which will only be out by 17 may
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in paper 2. if out of 80 ques, 74 are correct and 6 are wrong, you get 180 marks exactly( taking care of negative marking). its easy to score 180 in paper 2. just check your speed and improve upon it
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You dont have to score so much!
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I am just against of unnecessary competition at pt level from non serious candidates of civils….thats all.
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Dont worry next time you will have serious competition. The General belief which has spread now is no body applies for forest service prepared and an All India Service is given once you clear prelims. So all such people would rush to write the exam next year
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Very true…..thats the prob. All are rushing for AIS not really for forest service.
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@aspirant
i have nowhere mentioned in any of my posts that you are afraid. i understand your concern but what can we do? after all, it’s not in our hands! remember, even if u are going to compete for the post of a clerk in any government or private service, you are bound to face a serious competition! increasing unemployment and price rise has forced youth to undertake even menial jobs! one of my neighbours is working in a private
company for a meagre 4,000 rupees per month! he goes early in the morning and comes back late in the evening. at times, he has to work on sundays also to complete his pending work! he looks very thin and pale and at times i really feel bad at his condition. the point here is that nobody wants to leave anything to chance! if an ias aspirant is unable to make it in civil services, he would be contended that atleast he qualified for ifos. he can prepare for civil services while undergoing ifos training. who don’t want to enter an all india service? civil service exam is risky, so why would an aspirant risk his/her career? he needs a back up which could be ifos. so, he/she ticks both the options. what’s wrong in it? what’s illegal in it?.
competition is everywhere! face it or quit!
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@ravesh
U r true brother….but where no of appcant are 60000 and still 300 people dont filled DAF form for ifs main and in total just 350 give exam is not acceptable. it is happening beacuse of flaws created by combining pt which can be offset by passing more candidates…
Otherwise this phenomenon of unneccesary conpetion is happeninh in every exams but here it kills because intake is of just 1000!
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Infact i am advocating for nothing else but a healthy competition….
Dont u accept the fact that now to be IFS is just about passing PT n then absence of competion..!a fair nd helthy Competi should be there at all stage of exam.
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@aspirant
that’s what i am saying! upsc may increase the intake for ifos mains from next year. in order to reduce the stress of copy checking, it introduced the scheme of ifos prelims last year without understanding the repercussion of the same. it should have announced the pattern change news a year before the actual exam, so that serious ifos aspirants may not be at a disadvantage compared to ias aspirants or aspirants preparing for both the exams. then, nobody would had a problem and ifos aspirants would have given a tough competition to their fellow ias friends. nevertheless, i believe upsc didn’t do it deliberately and it was purely unintentional. upsc couldn’t foresee the trouble serious ifos aspirants were going to face! let bygones be bygones. this year, all serious ifos aspirants would be ready to face the challenge and show their ias counterparts that they are not going to give a single seat to them so easily!
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@aspirant
ifos mains scenario last year may not be the same this year also. serious ifos aspirants have enough time to prepare for this year’s prelims scheduled to be held in august. 1 year preparation for prelims is more than enough!. so, more serious ifos aspirants will qualify the prelims this year leading to higher attendance in mains. so, u will get definitely get a healthy competition in mains too like the prelims!
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Yup…ravesh thats why they honestly admitted when i called him and one of official told me that they thinking about it and surely will do something…
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@aspirant
really! happy to hear upsc worries about aspirants also! but i feel it should stick to the present pattern. changing the pattern again and again may lead to confusion and ultimately harm aspirants having one or two attempts remaining. in any case, let’s hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.
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@ravesh
Yes pt is necessary for ifos n lets hope upsc will pass more candidates this year…
Nice to talk with you…all the best ….we are ready to strike..!
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@aspirant
all the best to u too.
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UPSC in its annual report provide details of indian forest service exam, like how many students appeared. while preparing this year annual report, they will have to report
1) that 370 appeared in mains exam out of 1061 and 225 called for interview
2) qualification of successful candidates prior to prelim test was that 60% of final successful candidates belonged to forestry. now 60% might belong to engineering stream.
i think they too might be worried about the prelim test. be prepare for any change.
i myself is working in govt. organisation, sometimes involved in secretarial work for board meetings. sometimes board members take decisions irrationally, based on any idea that comes in their mind and their ideas get minitised. the lower cadre officials like me just implement these changes. this is the reality how sometimes big decision are taken in govt. organisations. sometimes it depends on the mood of the board members WITHOUT ANY VALIDATION, BACKTESTING THAT WHAT MIGHT BE THE RESULTS OF THE DECISION.
so be prepared for any change. tomorrow they might even say that
1)only forestry graduates are eligible for indian forest service.
2)reduce 2 science optional to one
3)scrap prelims
4)pattern same as engineering service exam ( aptitude and subjective in 3 days)
5)merge ias and ifs
experiment can be any
THIS COUNTRY DOESNOT RUN ON LOGIC.
BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING
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upsc chief in an interview had said that UPSC’s reputation was very high and nobody could recommend anyone and if at all anyone recommends, it would be of no use. (by express news service)
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Any update on IFS 2013 Final Result???
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which is the best test series for prelims in delhi which can provide subject wise test for gs paper 1 ????? cl, byju, vajiram or any other.
122 days left for notification date and 221 left for prelims ???
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i think upsc should use duckworth lewis method (used in cricket) when notifying changes in civil service exam. The subject streams which are at disadvantage should be given extra marks.
getting bored.
anybody interested in combined study in delhi on weekends ????
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@ biology,
This is my just a suggestion for test series gs paper 1 . go to this site http://insightsonindia.com/. after the payment of fees they send the paper on your email address .
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thank you sponge BOB
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guys any update abt result . any insider info etc, feeling restless
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@biology
My home name is bobby ,so i used my name here as BOB.today i discover a very interesting blog or (may be a site) http://csepreparation.quora.com/. i hope it is useful for you. and one more thing if i clear CSE pre- 14 for IFS (because i go for civil) , the second optional will be forestry ,because for forestry ( Indian Forestry: A Breakthrough Approach to Forest Service by K. Manikandan, S. Prabhu(IFS) is excellent book . this one book cover maximum syllabus
( If you have any information related to civil and IFS , please share)
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what are your optional Mr. bobby.
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@bob
first of all, no offence. a single book covers entire forestry syllabus, great!
seems that’s the reason upsc didn’t include forestry in cse optionals!. jokes apart, first tell me – a guy got 12/20 and another guy got 18/50. now tell me who’s performance is better? u can’t say 18 is better than 12 only because 18 is greater than 12 since maximum marks out of which they got 12 or 18 is not the same! similarly, number of students selected from a particular optional does not indicate that a specific optional has better chance of success compared to others! upsc does not show any subject bias atleast in ifos! so called easy subjects are heavily moderated compared to tougher optionals! now, please don’t argue all 14 subjects have the same difficulty! then why are u opting forestry at the first place?
moderation is different from scaling. moderation removes disparities between two equally scoring optionals. here syllabus and relative difficulty level of the paper is taken into account. even sudhanshu sir has opted mechanical engg and maths as ifos optionals which are very dry subjects+ very very lengthy syllabus which takes more than a year to complete, leave gk and english! still he scored high marks in his optionals! even devesh kumar mahla (ifos topper) scored more than 150+ in chemistry paper 1 and 2 seperately and scored in the range of 70-80 in geology paper 1 and 2 which is just half of chemistry! he should have scored more in geology than in chemistry as per your notion since geology syllabus is less than half of chemistry ( look at chemistry syllabus first before arguing) and geology papers are more predictable than chemistry!. one requires less books for geology, lesser time and subject is appealing too! he went for nearly full attempts in both the papers, then why so much discrimination in marks? if he would have scored low marks in chemistry too, then he would not have been selected!. so chemistry saved him and not geology! but many aspirants may chant that mr. devesh opted geology and got selected in ifos!. students scoring above 100+ in geology, forestry or agriculture are few who have a bachelor’s or master’s in the respective subject, others fare below average marks by reading one or two books! upsc gives equal chance to all 14 optionals and tougher optionals are more scoring than easier ones!. score 150+ is generally seen in maths, chemistry, zoology etc but rarely seen in forestry optional! one cannot complete 4 year degree syllabus( honours degree) from a single book! u won’t gain any unnecessary advantage in it! go as per your interest in the subject and not the syllabus. last year( 2013) many opted forestry and geology only because they were serious cse aspirants and not ifos ones! competition was also very less compared to previous years. if ifos pattern change again, then expect stiff competition from forestry and other pure science background candidates! will you survive then?
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which are your optional Mr.ravesh
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@ Mr. ravesh.
Candidates of cse are spending extra time in prelims than usual. This is due to the fact that cut off of prelims has increased from 210 to 240. i have talked to few aspirants in delhi, they are expecting cut off of 260 in ias 2014. Also this year prelims is in the month of august, so extra time for preparation.
given there is no change in ifs, what according to you will be the cut off of ifs 2014 needless to say in general category?????
I think mathematicians are better off in saving wild life than biologist.
1. Mathematicians may derive an algorithm to predict tiger movement
2. They can produce regressed equations to find out animal population
3. good in mensuration. etc etc etc.
agle janam mohe engineer hi kijo ( in next life i want to be an engineer)
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@biology
my optionals are physics and maths since i am an electrical engineer. more than half of the syllabus of these two subjects have already been covered during my graduation, so it will be foolishness to opt a new subject even though the syllabus of both these optionals are very lengthy.
i may end up writing very general answers if i opt forestry or geology as we write in gk which will not convert into marks!.
cut off may vary depending upon the difficulty level of paper. it won’t be more than 320 for general category for sure due to high negative marking of 0.66 and 0.825 in paper 1 and paper 2 respectively in case intake remains the same. things what you are saying about mathematicians seems like a satire! anyhow, i have already explained the reasons for aspirants ticking both the options in their prelims form in one of my earlier posts. engineers study maths during their first three semesters only( 1.5 years), then, how are they mathematicians? following herd mentality leads to digging one’s own grave! nectar for one may prove poison for the other!. even if all 1000 aspirants opt forestry as an optional, then will all 1000 get a call for interview? here the paper checker will see the quality of answers. so, more candidates means more competition and writing answers which stand out from others like public administration paper of cse. such problem is not encountered in engineering/pure science subjects due to clear cut answers. so, assessing your performance is easy after the exam and one need not spend sleepless nights till the final result!
i feel long cut is smoother and hurdle free than short cut which is full of uncertainity and confusion!. not risk your career by making wrong decision!
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Hello biology,
Mech. engg. for cse
Hello ravesh,
I agree with you and thanks for your post ,as i mention that IF i clear CSE pre- 14 for IFS then i choose forestry because this book provide all the fodder material and in my college days teacher told us – exam me paper agar difficult hai ,to kuch na likh kar fail hone se achaa hai ,copy bhar kar fail ho jao . because in second situation pass hone ka chance to hai
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@bob.. first prepare for prelims till august. try to score 320(190+130). cut off this year will be very very very high.
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@ bob
i salute u for opting mechanical engg for cse. u seem to be very bright! i hope ifos is your backup. since cse is risky, don’t ignore your backup. in upsc just filling pages won’t help. content is always more important than length. forestry paper 2 is very dynamic and upsc has increased the difficulty level of questions for troubling students! paper 2 became a disaster even for forestry graduates in 2012. another strategy adopted by upsc to discourage forestry is by increasing the subparts of a main question. instead of 20+20 format, it has started 10+10+10+10 format in almost all the questions. this has made life very difficult for newcomers! sometimes, a single question may have even five subparts. so u calculate- each compulsory question of 8 marks of section a and b + 4 subparts of 3 other optional questions = 22 questions or more! in each paper. sometimes a sub part may have even more sub parts! most of the other optionals continue with 20+ 20 format. answers may vary in forestry from person to person due to general nature of paper 1 and hence marks vis-a-vis the attempt vary drastically for paper 1. for paper 2, no strategy works nowadays. syllabus for paper 2 is very open ended and attempting even 50 percent of the paper is a real challenge! hope it helps!
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where is chandu sir and other biologist who had cleared ifs and are under going training in ignfa.
cleared life science graduate should give representation to the concerned professor, director, chairman, secretary about the decrease in life science candidates in the given exam format. less than 10% forestry graduates are selected this year, previously it was 60%.
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don’t expect cut off to be 400! there is negative marking too and nearly 50 percent of posts is reserved which will have a lower cut off.
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Dosto result ki kuch khabar…..????
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Dear Biology,
I guess UPSC is aware of this issue. Accordingly, it makes efforts to have a sound balance in the batch. Let us see how things turn up. As per the set eligibility criteria, all science graduates must get equal (if possible) representation…but you never know..that is what competition is all about. It is wrong to say “Life science graduates are decreasing..Please do something”.
All the best for results…I know..this period takes away peace of mind.
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@ Chandu Sir
Sir aapki training kaisi chal rahi hain…….abhi kya chal raha hain training me…
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hello chndu sir….
it is nice to see u on the blog,
hw r yr training going on..?
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anybody still taking coaching in evolution, delhi?????????
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IFS final result…any update ??
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i meet few serious civil service aspirants in library. half of them were engineers with decent civil service history. all of them will tick both option in this year prelims
one of them said that he got 310 in prelims last year and regretted that he did not tick both option. he even said that ias is unreliable these days and ifs would provide a pretty good back up plan.
this year ifs cut off would be a world record.
be safe .. score 100%
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ifs prelims cut off will not depend on total no of candidates which will tick both option, but it will depend on no. of elite students (like senior players) who will tick both options as no of seats are only 1000.
last year many elite students (which had scored around 300) did not tick both option as they thought it would hamper their ias preparation. but things have changed. suddenly everybody likes forest.
my suggestion to ifs aspirants :
1) try to cover each and every topic in gs.
2) if you cannot score 190 in csat (for a general category student), then chance of selection is between zero to nil.
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Hello Result and Veer..
The training is going on well. Now we are undergoing professional phase of training.
Let me give a brief info about what happens after you get into the list.
1) A long wait: For 2013 batch, final results were announced on 8th April. SECOND MEDICAL exam will be conducted for those who are in the list. It is simply an x-ray examination of your chest. It is not a big issue. But some candidates may have problems. It is followed by a long list of appeals (if any). It gets completed in about a month. After this, candidates have to eagerly wait for the appointment letter. The letter states terms of service, conduct rules and other aspects (like what things to bring, how to reach the academy etc etc).
2) Foundation course: After a period of about 5 months, we were allotted venue for the Foundation course. The batch was split into 3 groups: Bhopal, Hyderabad and Nagpur. (This allotment was done by DoPT). Hopefully, future batches will be undergoing FC at one place (Most probably at Massoorie). FC is a good experience (learning + enjoyment). You get to interact with officers of central services like IRS, IRTS, IIS, IAAS, IPoS etc. and build a life long friendship. FC runs for about 3 n half months (Due to change in the schedule of UPSC exams, I am not sure about commencement of the FC of next batch). There are qualifying exams in the FC (Public Administration, Law, History, Computer science, Management and Hindi). There is this nasty thing called “early morning PT” which you will hate doing. The 3 months of period is full of short and long trips, cultural functions etc etc. We had a 10 day long trip to Manali. This period can be utilised for learning new habits, hobbies, sports etc.
3)Professional Phase: It begins immediately after the completion of FC. As you all know, it is conducted at IGNFA, Dehradun. Well, our batch has already completed one month in IGNFA. The first term consists of subjects like soil science, geology, overview of forestry, elementary maths/biology (maths for life science graduates and biology for non-bio graduates) and statistics . The morning session (9am to 1 pm) is devoted to theory classes and afternoon session (2pm to 4pm) is devoted to practical classes. Here too, we have early morning PT (7 am to 7:30 am) and evening games (4:30 pm to 5:30 pm), attendance to which is compulsory.
This phase too is full of tours and modules. We had one week long weapon training module at IMA (Firing of INSAS Rifles). Shortly, we will be heading towards Ranthambor for Introductory tour. It will be followed by west India tour, Hill tour, Central and South India tour, East India tour, foreign tour etc. After every tour, there is an exam based on the tour. Many presentations, working plans and symposiums to follow. At the end of every term, there is a written exam, followed by a term break.
Will keep updating.
All the best
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@chandu
thanks. are you travelling by bus, train or flight? in which countries u may go for foreign tour?
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Most of the journey is by train and bus
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@chandu
are classes conducted in foundation course (FC) also like the professional phase? or are you given the list of books or study material and asked to prepare yourself? if somebody fails in the qualifying exams of foundation course, will he/she be given another chance? or will he/she be debarred from attending the professional phase? or will they make everybody pass?!
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any update about ifs results??…
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any idea about the final ifs result..????
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I went to UPSC for document verification last week and i felt that everything is done, the result can be out anytime.
May be they are delaying due to IAS written results, else there is no reason to delay it.
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IFos 2013 result declare…….give comment plzzz
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file RTI to get whole details…how much cuttoff….how many engineer ther are….etc………..
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are sab k sab kaha gaayaab ho gaye???????
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guys i am in 37th rank. thanks a lot for ur handy support and cooperation, had a lot of fun in this blog.tc
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Sir im a serious aspirant of ifs . At present i m serving in defence and persuinging B..Tech in civil eng through AMIE .
Sir i plan to take civil eng and math as optional subject. Sir please guide me some good books for preparing maths.
Thanking u sir.
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@ abhishek
i would like to help u on this but since ur above mentioned optionals are not the same as mine i need to contact some of my friends and would then get back to u
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@Anthony
Congrats Bro..!!!What are your optionals??
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S.NO. ROLL NO NAME
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1 194252 SANDEEP KUMAR JHA
2 425434 KUNAL ANGRISH
3 118745 GAUTHAM V P
4 106775 ABHISHEK TOMAR
5 460428 VANDITA RANA
6 025871 PIYUSHA PRAMOD JAGTAP
7 449963 RISHAV GUPTA
8 283414 AGNEESHWAR VYAS
9 675363 KALPANA K
10 496218 BHARAT MAHESHWARI
11 007882 AGRAWAL SUSHIL RAVINDRA
12 033471 KOMMISETTY MURALIDHAR
13 697988 DEBASHISH SHARMA
14 172001 CHARUSREE T
15 002661 ASHISH KUMAR
16 724822 KULRAJ SINGH
17 321143 NAVNEET KUMAR SRIVASTAVA
18 726984 PANKAJ RAJPUT
19 664300 KIRAN G
20 055017 SUDHEER CHOUDHARY
21 059116 AVINASH KUMAR
22 377386 ABHINAV KUMAR
23 100841 RACHIT RAJ
24 214940 MALARKODI R
25 106108 ANKUR AWADHIYA
26 016009 PAVAN KUMAR REDDY G
27 086809 AKASH P
28 293235 ARVIND KUMAR YADAV
29 167411 MOHIT GUPTA
30 308062 GAURAV K SINGH
31 028346 RAJNISH KUMAR
32 454868 ASHWINI KUMAR
33 185547 S SUNDAR
34 167643 SIMRANJEET SINGH KAHLON
35 001727 RAMANAND BHAKAR
36 441363 JADHAV SHRIKRISHNA A N S
37 702607 ANTHONY S MARIYAPPA
38 475241 MANE AMITKUMAR BABURAO
39 341027 NITISH KUMAR
40 007552 ABHINAVA PALLAVA
41 277188 POORNIMA P
42 176234 SUDHANSHU YADAV
43 002138 S SOORYA NARAYAN
44 376997 RAJTHILAK S
45 131035 MUJAWAR SADIK SALLAUDDIN
46 004042 RAUSHAN KUMAR SINGH
47 085176 VINEET TOMAR
48 124971 HEMANT PATIL
49 363350 SUNIL KUMAR BERWAL
50 029635 RAKESH SEPAT
51 362756 YASHU DEEP SINGH
52 513489 VIDHYASAGARI R U
53 275672 BHOSALE SACHIN TUKARAM
54 195263 SHEIK FAREED J
INDIAN FOREST SERVICE EXAMINATION 2013
S.NO. ROLL NO NAME
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55 362032 VIKASH KUMAR UJJWAL
56 271822 SENTHILPRABHU V
57 283072 ABHIJEET PATEL
58 054051 VINOD S
59 370655 MOHAN CHOUDHARY
60 164892 GAVADE SACHIN SHANKAR
61 510979 SIVARAM BABU M
62 009990 ESTHER LALTANKIM SERTO
63 456198 ARAVIND P M
64 015005 SATYAM KUMAR
65 013489 RAHUL KUMAR
66 447122 KADAM SUHAS TARACHAND
67 004162 AMIT KANWAR
68 291678 KRISHNA MOORTHY K
69 529287 RAJKUMAR M
70 000994 RAHUL DEV SINGH
71 247553 HONMANE DINESH VASANTRAO
72 464489 NAVIN PRAKASH SHAKYA
73 044878 AMIT RENU
74 009267 KAILASH BHIMRAO BHAWAR
75 167960 DESHBHRATAR SWAPNIL VIJAY
76 003055 SHANNGAM S
77 271180 DINESH T
78 013848 LAXMAN RANJEET NAYAK
79 365591 SANDEEP KUMAR BERWAL
80 138640 KANWAR DEEP SINGH
81 091751 PAWAN BHARTI
82 029827 HARISH
83 046974 KHUSHWANT SINGH
84 004170 VANKDOTH KETAN KUMAR
85 117335 PATIL RAHUL NAMADEV
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@rohit
my optionals were-forestry and geology
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Hi Anthony,
kindly mail me the book-list for Geology. Also just wanted to know whether you have a Geology background. I am a B.Tech in Computer Science Engg and here I can a lot of people advising against Geology optional.
My mail id -zeus666666@gmail.com
sayak1001@yahoo.com
kindly let me know your topic wise book-list for Geology
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results — james,saanuj, ravesh ??????
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@ Antony bro: Congratulations….Can you please share your strategy for papaer -2 of prelims?
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@biology
i have not given this year’s ifos prelims! saanuj didn’t give this year’s ifos personality test, so his name probably may not be in the list! no idea about james.
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@prem
First of all there is no one fits all strategy,u will have to devise it acc to ur strengths. for English comprehension i think if ur communicative english is good reading daily news papers especially editorial would suffice,otherwise pick up some good english books like novels,biography etc. for reasoning part just focus on solving diverse case lets u come across either through coaching institute or through magazines etc.most imp here is ur common sense and apt time management because this is the section where at times even after spending 15 mins u may not get any q right or in worst case u may get all wrong .
for data interpretation also focus on solving diverse caselets , to certain extent u can take help of books like r.s.aggarwl
for decision making, u should be aware of what is ethically correct, morally acceptable to society,and should reflect certain principles like secularism,sensitive etc
for quantitative (which is least asked) i would suggest u to go through the manuals of some coaching institutes like time,c.l.,byju etc.
most imp in this preparation is frequent practice to become efficient as here unlike in g.s. paper , it is not the check of knowledge but that of time management. start from section where ur comfortable(but don’t start with logical reasoning). don’t focus on shortcuts, formulas etc as it is least asked in upsc exam.
and lastly the better u are in terms of ur common sense u stand a high probability of clearing
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@Anthony
Can you pls tell how u prepared for forestry…have been trying it for sometime but strategy is not working out
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see i refereed to three books manikandan&prabhu, and forests and forestry by k.p.sagareiya, handbook of forestry, followed by coaching institution material(evolution) .My optional preparation of geography for civils helped me in this regard. its a simple and a scoring subject so don’t worry too much abt it , just prepare u will get through
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Hearty Congratulations to all those who got through !!
Welcome aboard.
@ravesh
classes in FC are very general…serving n retired officers come and deliver lectures. In addition, a standard list of books is also given. Normally, people don’t fail in these exams. But exceptions are always there. Around 45 people failed in Hyderabad. They were given second chance. It depends on the course director. Do not worry. Everyone is let free at the end.
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@ chandu
could u shed some light on the cadre allocation process , is the cadre allocation of ur batch done?
what cadre can i expect at rank 37 in general?
and most likely start of fc this year?
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@Anthony
Congratulation.
Out of 3 books that you have suggested manikandan&prabhu and any forestry handbook give us a bird eye view of whole syllabus (that is what I think) .In question paper we are supposed to write up to the level of a forestry graduate. Being an engineering graduate I found difficulties in writing answers matching to those standards, being expected by a forestry graduate.
In papers they tend to ask question which require in depth knowledge of concepts specially in the parts like silviculture or pathological study of specific tree species .Same goes with the parts like ethanobotany, forest utilization etc. In these books only generalized description is given(at least for these topics).
Will it be safe writing such generalized answers or we have to study specific books on each diverse topic.
Will these books along with the coaching material would be sufficient for forestry ???
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@anthony
P.S
Are you an engineering graduate ??
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@Anthony
Can you please tell me where can I get Evolution Forestry material may be a photo copied one
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i have squint in left eye, bt i hv normal vission, am i eligble?
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congrats to selected frds…..
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heyy can anyone tell about the starting salary of the new IFS recruit…..and the month in which training starts
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@adi
starting salary of all group A officers( whether ias, ips ,ies or ifos) comes in pay band 3 (15600-39100) + 5600 grade pay. here 15600 is the minimum basic pay and 39000 is the maximum one. DA is 80 percent of basic pay( it may vary every year)+ house rent allowance+ travel allowance+ education allowance+ newspaper allowance + few more. increment @2.5% and 3.5% every six months. so, during first month of training one may get nearly 40,000 per month( provided bungalows and vehicles are provided by the government, then they will deduct hra and ta from your salary + income tax+ professional tax+ deduction for provident fund, insurance etc.). so, nearly 40000 is the salary in hand. basic pay goes on increasing year after year, so da also increases. nearly after 8 years( including training), one goes in pay band 4. many indirect benefits are also there.
the seventh pay commission is intended to triple the salaries of all central government employees. for pay band 3 (29900-104400)+16200 grade pay is the estimated pay. so, entry pay is Rs. 63000( this is the basic pay only). if da+ hra + ta + other allowances are added, then gross pay may easily exceed more than 1 lakh. this may seem improbable but can be true since during fifth pay commission, the pay band for group A officers was 8000-13500 only. the basic pay was nearly 9000 during training. there was no grade pay also. DA was subsequently less( since basic pay was less), so HRA, TA etc. was also very meager. after the introduction of 6th pay commission, they nearly tripled the basic pay+ introduced grade pay. so, very much possible that seventh pay commission may also do so.
the seventh pay commission is going into effect from 1st jan 2016.
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@adi
so u see salary is going to be at par with psus! one just need to get into the services first!
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Civil Services Examination – Relaxation of number of attempts:
Can’t be able to predict the UPSC
& Its decisions…..
Click to access MoreAttempts.pdf
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hello,
Can anybody guide regarding to the preparation of zoology as an optional subject. What should be the strategy and Which books should be referred etc.
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Hi,I am also preparing for Zoology any one who gained experience in preparing Zoology… Please share your ideas,thoughts,questions etc You can even reply to My id ravi.rise123@gmail.com(for any kind of subject discussions)
Thanks In Advance
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ifos 2013 written cut off to qualify for personality test( out of 1400 marks)
general – 479
obc -438
sc – 366
st -363
ph-2 -365
ph-3 -342
note – students should score atleast 5% of the total marks in all the papers, otherwise they will be disqualified. this means, aspirants who have not given all the papers are automatically out of the race and their other papers will not be evaluated.
ifos final cut off 2013 after personality test( out of 1700 marks)
general – 741
obc – 693
sc – 652
st – 629
ph2 – 530
ph3 – 688
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hey Ravesh from where did u get the information….please give the source…
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upsc increased 2 attmpts………
so lets hope for ifs pattern to change
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upsc announced increase in 2 attempts and consequential increase in age limit.
does it mean increase in attempts for indian forest service?????
i dont think there would be increase in attempts for forest service.
the declaration was announced by Dopt. and if Moef gives green flag to the increase in attempts then only there would be increase in attempts
mr. ravesh( your expert comment)
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94 days to go…. ( notification date)
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@adi
the information regarding cut off is given in the upsc website.
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last year ifs cut off of general category 497 731 70.. this year ifs cut off 479 741. this year overall ifs cut off of general category has increased. Healthy competition is still there. i dont upsc will change the pattern.
one doubt mr. ravesh. is there any qualifying marks in gk like last year.
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@biology
yes, u are right. there is increase in the number of attempts and subsequent age relaxation for civil service aspirants only. this happened only because ias aspirants made hue and cry regarding the pattern change and nearly after one year of struggle, their efforts bear fruits! ifos aspirants are very less in number compared to ias aspirants and nobody cared to appeal against the last minute pattern change wound inflicted upon them! so, all ignored their problems since they were not aware! a mother only gives milk to the baby when it cries and makes her aware of it’s hunger. similarly, a sufferer should fight against the injustice himself and not expect others to fight for him! after all, it’s the aspirant’s loss only and not upsc’s! if ifos aspirants would also have raised their voice and demanded justice, then they could also have got at least one extra attempt and simultaneously one year age relaxation.
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@biology
i have already mentioned above that 5% marks out of the total marks in each paper individually is necessary to avoid disqualification. no separate cut off for gk. 5% is the cut off for all the papers which corresponds to 15 marks in english and gk and 10 marks each in 4 papers of two other optional subjects.
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@biology
I think the provision of increment in number of attempts is for all exams conducted by UPSC(that it what been written in some of the news papers) including Indian engineering services and Indian forest service as well.
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1) Its in the Moef mandate ( not Dopt ) to increase the no. of attempts for indian forest service. Neither Upsc nor Dopt can change anything in forest exam.
2)last year the decision to change iFOS exam was to give effect to Jc kala committee recommendations ( committee constituted by Moef).
3) only cse attempts have increased.
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1)Indian forest service is now the most tough exam of the country. far tougher than IAS exam.
2) first clear mammoth prelims cut off
3) then mains cut off has also increased from last year.
4) I am a serious ifs aspirant but from now on give IAS exam also for back up (hahahahhaaha).
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@ranthambore
there is restriction in the number of attempts in ias and ifos exams only. there is no restriction in any number of attempts in any other exam conducted by upsc, though age restrictions are always there!
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@Ravesh
Thank you brother for your info.
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hey i cnt find the cut off info about ifs 2013….can any one plsssssss give the link…plssss….i cnt get the info
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heyy ravesh has the individual marks been updated?/?..
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and has individual marks been updated…plss reply,,,
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@adi
go to the upsc website and click the examinations link. u will get the cut off marks link there which gives information about the cut off marks of various recently held exams conducted by upsc.
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hey ravesh do u have any idea about individual marks obtained in ifs 2013???
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any idea about prelims cut off?
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@adi
it will be uploaded in the upsc website shortly but not publicly. aspirants would have to type their roll no and date of birth for individual query.
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@rushi
ifos prelims cut off 2013 is more than 270 for general category. for exact cut off revelation by upsc, we will have to wait!
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Guys ,
Is their any hope that attempts have been increased for IFos also ?
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hope is a good thing, may be the best of things and no good thing ever dies.
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guys, please help i got the marks similar to last recommended candidate or cut off my category , what to do now.
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Refer to Q&A section of UPSC website
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Indian Forest Service Exam.
(i)
a candidate securing more marks in the compulsory papers and the personality test put together has been ranked higher;
(ii)
in case of marks at (i) above are also equal, the candidate senior in age has been ranked higher.
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86 days to go…………… ( notification date)
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Roll No. : 118745
Name : GAUTHAM V P
Indian Forest Service (Main) Examination 2013
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 113
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 049
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 108
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 087
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 170
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 140
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 667
Interview Marks 300 207
Final Total 1700 874
Remarks : Recommended.
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Roll No. : 007552
Name : ABHINAVA PALLAVA
Indian Forest Service (Main) Examination 2013
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
CHEMISTRY PAPER I 200 089
CHEMISTRY PAPER II 200 083
PHYSICS PAPER I 200 070
PHYSICS PAPER II 200 078
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 145
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 120
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 585
Interview Marks 300 165
Final Total 1700 750
Remarks : Recommended.
CANDIDATURE PROVISIONAL
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Roll No. : 167643
Name : SIMRANJEET SINGH KAHLON
Indian Forest Service (Main) Examination 2013
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 106
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 058
PHYSICS PAPER I 200 081
PHYSICS PAPER II 200 082
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 161
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 091
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 579
Interview Marks 300 180
Final Total 1700 759
Remarks : Recommended.
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heyy..a query…if someone fills in his DAF the choices of states and later on during cadre allocation if he wana change his preference.then is there any such option available? any technical formality for it needed??or no such option exists.plss replyy
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@rohit
general english – 181
general knowledge – 125
maths paper 1 – 84
maths paper 2 – 89
physics paper 1- 124
physics paper 2 – 135
shocked seeing my marks in maths and physics. there is apparently high moderation of marks in both the subjects especially maths. seems upsc will not give marks above 140+ in any optional subject even if the candidate attempts full 200 marks correctly! these people have not spared maths even in ifos! anyhow, it doesn’t matter. even students having maths as ias optional have struggled to score above 100+ in both the papers.
i think this happened because of easier paper and tougher competition in maths optional this year. i have already cleared ies exam and waiting for cse results, about which i am not quite hopeful!
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@Saanuj
How many marks have you scored in Ifos Mains??
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@saanuj
congrats for clearing ies exam. your marks in physics is excellent despite heavy moderation. you are too good in physics! that’s the reason you opted it as cse optional. kindly give your detailed strategy for ies (all five papers). you promised it long ago but i think u forgot to reply me!
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@saanuj
you have scored 738 out of 1400 marks in ifos mains. if u had given the personality test, u would have definitely topped the exam since cut off marks for general category was 741 out of 1700 marks. so, u missed the cut off by just 3 marks even without giving the personality test! i think you will definitely clear cse mains!
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@saanuj
are u intending to join irsee or irss in indian railways? nowadays top rankers join indian railway stores service to earn quick bucks!
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@ravesh
my first preference is irsee. i know it’s a hectic and highly responsible job but i am mentally prepared for it. it’s a fact that top rankers prefer irss( indian railway stores service) than irsee. irss is less stressful as compared to irsee. the working hours are fixed in irss whereas in irsee is a 24*7 job. another reason u stated is also completely true that there is a scope of making lots of money in irss( what i mean is – corruption), but is it required? facilities are quite good in railways but greed has no end. u may escape two or three times but once caught by vigilance, rest of the entire life will be miserable! so, if u want to join irss to do corruption, then please don’t write the exam or at least don’t join irss. join some other department where there is less scope or no scope of corruption and control your emotions! don’t loot your own country and become a blot on your own nation!.
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@saanuj
u are misunderstanding me. my intentions are pure and i am against corruption. railways have a lot of money, it’s a fact! but that does not mean railway officers will misuse public money. public money should be used for public welfare only and not a greedy man’s personal needs! people who are misusing their power will regret their actions later! we all should work for the development of the country overcoming our lust for money and power which could be achieved by self control and sincerity towards work. kindly end this discussion here and please give me your ies strategy.
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@ravesh
i will post the strategy very soon! good luck!
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@ravesh
refer minimum books for ies preparation. most of the questions are asked from few standard books only which should be read thoroughly. the list given below is indicative but not exhaustive. i referred these books only, though many other books could also be used for preparation.
general ability- refer previous years ies and cds papers for general english section. for general studies refer ncert textbooks of geography and general science( especially biology section) since more than 70 percent of the gs section is dominated by geography and biology related questions. questions asked are much easier than that asked in cds, capf or cse prelims exam. for history, ignore ancient and medieval portion and prepare modern part only. polity can be prepared from m laxmikanth book. brush up your economics area by reading ncert textbooks only. also study about united nations and related organizations to a basic level. current events can be ignored since cost benefit ratio is extremely poor in ies. last year they asked just one question from census, that too repeated from combined medical services exam!
for branch papers( electrical engineering), formulate your own strategy. read these books carefully since upsc can ask question from any nook and corner of these books for objective papers. for subjective papers, stick to the syllabus for all topics.
paper 1
1. electromagnetic theory – sadiku ( for theory) and kanodia books( for numericals).
2. electrical materials – s p seth
3. electrical circuits – chakraborthy ( best book)
4. instrumentation and measurement – a k swahney
5. control systems – nagrath and gopal
paper 2
1. electrical machines and power transformers – nagrath and kothari and nptel website ( for lectures of iit professors)
2. power systems – nagrath and kothari ( c l wadhwa could be referred for power system protection though i didn’t use it).
3. analog electronics- millman and halkis
digital electronics – morris mano
operational amplifiers – gayakwad
for numericals ( of all three topics) – kanodia books.
4. microprocessors- goankar
5. communication systems – singh and sapre
optical, satellite communication and tv and radar engineering – taub and schilling ( very basic level only, don’t go too deep).
6. power electronics – p s bhimbra.
questions are quite repetitive in objective papers, so practice them from previous 15 to 17 years question papers at least 20 times! use made easy publication books for previous years objective and conventional papers since they are error free and 99.9% accurate. also practice from ias prelims previous years electrical engineering papers ( 1993- 2010). in this way, you will get a decent preparation for the exam. good bye!
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@saanuj.
Congratulation man.
You are an electrical engineer. You have prepared Electrical for IES and maths and physics for IFos… How did you managed it bro. Obviously it is not an easy task since one has to prepare to an level which is expected from a graduate or post graduat in respective subjects.Rather it was a colossal task.
Apart from that you also managed your GS as well.
Could you please share how much amount of time took to prepare these subjects thoroughly.
What was your strategy?
You had completed subjects before starting preparation for GS and Pre or you did all parts simultaneously.
Please share your strategy.
Have you taken any coaching and are you a working person ???
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@saanuj
thanks a ton! best of luck for future.
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was thr any one finally selected from b. pharma stream???any one confirm plzz????
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is there any one selected from biology background
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Is there any IFS aspirant preparing with optionals Botany and zoology?
has anybody refered ‘Biology book by Raven Johnson’,I think it is good reference book for few topics of Zooloy.
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only 72 days to go for notification date.
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Take a few moments to appreciate and get inspired by
Forest man of India
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Clarification on fresh attempts and age relaxation in Civil Services Examination:
Click to access CSE-04032014.pdf
Will this be applied to IFoS too?Can some one clarify on this?
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not applicable for indian forest service.
its only for civil service examination (cse)
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@Sanuuj,
Congrats Sanuuj for IES, when would your joining be??
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@rohit
training will most probably begin from october or november for irsee and irss. for other departments, it will take more than a year to be called for joining.
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@anonymous
formulate your own strategy. things are not so tough as one thinks it to be! be slow but steady and win the race! i didn’t take any coaching for cse or ies. i am not a working person. for guidance, internet always comes to the rescue. i feel for any upsc exam, patience along with hard work is necessary. begin your preparation at least a year before the exam, so that one does not become panicky during the last moment which may indirectly affect their performance. good luck!
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thnak you saanuj…
Could you please tell about the books that you have referred for Ifos Physics paper ?
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@anonymous
physics was my optional for both cse and ifs. refer abhijeet agarwal’s blog for detailed strategy of physics along with the book-list. ifos physics optional questions are relatively simpler and shorter compared to cse physics. preparing from previous years papers is a must for this subject. almost all the questions asked in paper 2 are repetitive even in cse! sort out the questions asked in previous years chapter wise and solve them after completing the specific chapter from the required books. good luck.
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@saanuj,
Wassup wid ur civils mains result??
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@rohit
i am in! quite surprised though! i feel my marks may be near the cut off marks only to qualify the written paper.
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There is some magic in you man :)… God Bless.. Give interview a bang, who knows you might be in the final list with a good rank..All the best
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@rohit
thanks. probability of getting a good rank is dim. my written papers were just average. i want to join either ias or ifs( indian foreign services) which seems impossible in the current scenario. the services given to the last rankers are not so good. anyhow, i am preparing again for this year’s prelims which would me my third attempt. nevertheless, i am going to give the personality test and leave the rest in the hands of GOD.
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@saanuj
congrats.i understand your concern. out of 3000 students who qualified for the personality test, 1500 belongs to the reserved category( 50 percent reservation). if there was no reservation, the probability of qualifying the personality test was nearly 50%. now, with reservation, the probability of qualifying the personality test for a general category candidate is just 25% or even less if a reserved category candidate occupies a general category seat due to his exceptional performance in mains. so, getting a top rank in cse for a general category candidate is really tough. since your written papers didn’t go quite well, so i assume you are cent percent sure that you won’t be able to get a top rank which is a must for selecting ias or ifs. but nothing to worry, dear. you still have 4 attempts remaining and you are barely 24!. anyways, best of luck for personality test. you will definitely become an ias officer in near future.
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@biology
i will say the same to u after this year’s exam.
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@ravesh
no boss, my preparation is too slow. office pressure. my real attempt with full preparation and revision will be in 2015 (which will be my 3 attempt). my last attempt is in 2016.
you will be my senior in IGNFA
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@saanuj
true champion
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@RAVESH
any news regarding ifs 2014.
if there would be serious changes in ifs pattern by UPSC, they would have notified it by now. but this is not the case.
i think this year the same pattern will continue or with little changes( like increase in intake by prelims).
No big change is expected
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@biology
you remind me of chandu sir. he too was skeptical of his result last year but went through with flying colors. why are u not confident of clearing this year’s exam. prelims is far away and for mains general english requires very little preparation. gk syllabus is already covered during your prelims preparation. both the optional subjects are already covered during your graduation and after prelims too u will get some time for mains preparation. since u are not preparing for any other exam, then i think things are not so tough. i know u are a working professional, but do u work six days a week? saturdays and sundays may be holidays for u. so, minimum eight days a month u are free! u may be getting other local and national holidays too! april is the month of holidays. almost half the month consists of holidays only! prepare during that time! since u are preparing for the exam since last year, i don’t think u will need more time for the preparation. try for civil services too later on. who knows u may be the next sudhanshu sir!
pattern of ifos exam may not change this year as far as i know!
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@saanuj
kindly provide me the answer keys of ias 2009 and 2010 electrical engg papers uploaded in the upsc website. i can’t find the solution keys anywhere in internet. even no publication house is printing previous years ias optional electrical engineering prelims paper since ias prelims pattern changed in the year 2011. i even don’t have ias prelims electrical engg papers before 2009 since they are nowhere to be found. how can i get them? even unsolved papers will work. please help me out! god will bless u!
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@saanuj
i know u are preparing for cse personality test but i think u can spare sometime for this.
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@saanuj
i posted my name as saanuj by mistake! sorry for that.
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@ravesh
how are you managing both ies and ifs. in ies your optional is electrical engineering and in ifs it might be physics and maths (as there is no electrical engineering here).
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@biology
i am an electrical engineer, so it’s not an alien subject!. nearly 70% of maths syllabus and few areas of physics is already covered during my engineering, so it’s manageable. since i am not working also, i have plenty of time to study!
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Dear Sir and friends…i want to know that in terms of status and social prestige where IFoS stands??? Is it better than many central services or euivalent to Gp B services????????
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@gandhimati
ifos is a group A all india central government service. you can’t compare it with ias and ifs( indian foreign services) though but still it is equivalent to and at times even better than other central government services.
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Dear friend,
INDIAN FOREST SERVICE is an unparallel service among all three all india service( IFoS,IAS,IPS) it is a SHAHI service and why i am telling you because my father is retd ccf(ifs). once you an ifs and posted in field and you enter in forest,there you immediately feel the coolness of the breeze and the scent extends.if you love nature ,forest and Cicada’s voice echoing in the woods, this is the service for you .no other service gives you so much job satisfaction (even ias also not). so study hard and grab the job.
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@ravesh
are you an IIT product ????
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@anonymous
i am an niit product, not iit!
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@ravesh
visit gk publications website for previous years ias prelims electrical engineering solved papers and order online. few answer keys given are incorrect, but still it’s ok. i hope your query is solved.
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@ravesh
You wrote that you have done your graduation from niit. What it is? I have heard about IIT and NITs but what NIIT is ?
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@anonymous
it was a typographical error! i meant nit only! i did my b tech from manit( maulana azad national insitute of technology). thanks for correcting me!
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SURMA BHOPALI
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@saanuj
thanks for the help.
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53 days for notification.
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Chaab ke rakh diya bhai
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Guys,I am new to IFoS preparation. I am an Electronics engineer.Cleared IES this year.Want to start preparation for IFoS,please suggest the optionals.I am totally blank.And also plz suggest coaching institutes in delhi,if some good inst. are there.
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@lucky
if u have already cleared ies, then what’s the point of preparing for ifos? anyways, maths+ physics combo will be best for you.
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@ravesh Except Railways and ITS no good depts are there in IES for an electronics engg. and IFoS is far better than those. Thanks for suggesting Maths n Phy. But heard they are too big to be completed in a year. I think I can do Phy. How about Geology? Can it be self read ? Is it marks fetching?
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@lucky Based on my experience I would like to suggest you to opt for Forestry instead of Geology since syllabus of forestry is direct and manageable. Some part coincides with Pre and general knowledge paper so that such overlapping would be beneficial. Moreover some part is being studied by any engg graduate during their first year(common for all branches of engg) which is surveying, rudiments of forest engineering and material(basic civil engg). Although it is very small part of syllabus. Having mathematical background you will not find any difficulty in forest mensuration as well.
Only 5-6 books will be enough, I guess.
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hello all,
I am preparing for IFos 2015. I am planning to join Evolution institute. Does anybody who has done coaching in same institute can guide me whether to join or not. What are other reliable coaching institute for the same. Should I join Vajirao for GS specifically and evolution for optionals or Evolution will work for both. Please guide me…. My optionals are Zoology and Forestry.
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@ grus…
u can go for GS,ZOOLOGY at evolution. not for forestry. forestry faculty is not good at evol. zool is extrmly gud.
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@dharam thank you … Could you suggest any other coaching for forestry ?
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dear, m doing forestry myself…itz easy to handle…m frm b. pharma background ..for z not my grdn subjct…but itz gud enough n intresting…n ya as i knw thr z no coaching spl for forestry…..i also havin zool+ forestry optional…i hv done gs at evolsn….tk care
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@dharam thank you brother. Could you please share what is your experience of GS coaching in evolution.
Are you satisfied ??? Which GS you have done there IAS GS or IFos gs ??
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GS WAS GOOD FOR IFS LAVEL…NOT FOR IAS…I DID IFOS GS AT EVOLUTION….M DOING ZOOL, FORESTRY MY SELF…WAT OPTIONAL U R CHOOSING….N YA …UR GRADUATION IN WHICH STREAM?????
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Nearly all candidates who are selected in ifos have made it in the interview list of ias.
I think ifos batch this time will not be more than 40.
UPSC should merge both the exam
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yup…m sure this time ifos batch going too short…n UPSC sud hav to think about it for 2014-15 exam….wat u say…biology
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merging both exam is not suitable i think bcz both are diffrent type of exam and job profile….i think thr sud be separate prelims for ifs exam with ifos specific syllabus…..!!!!
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separate prelims is not possible as it would create enormous burden on upsc.
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I think there should be separate prelims for IFoS so that the candidates who are genuinely interested in IFoS will be short listed not those who were planning for IAS and somehow came to know about IFos and got selected.
Obviously those who are preparing for IAS whole heartily will do better in Preliminary examination but it does not mean that they really want to join the forest services.
I think the solution is that to include questions of forest aptitude (like topics related to environment,wild life and their conservation, India’s natural richness, protective strategies etc ) at least in IFos mains GS paper if it is not possible to include them in preliminary examination.
This year’s IFoS GS paper had very little to do with the forest aptitude part.
This is the only way to separate “passionate but less intelligent aspirants” and “intelligent but least passionate participants”.
What I think is that this Service requires the the officers who really want to do it not those who somehow get this.
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@ grus….
exectly….this z d best way to filtering candidate for both exam n services….but UPSC ham sab ka baap….jo kare wo kam hai…ham sab to uske gulaam hain ji…..
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If someone ‘read between lines’ of your statement they would
opine that you are saying if someone know more about environment,wildlife,forests then you are “passionate but less intelligent”
Similar level of questions with intellectual height can be asked in IFS examination which other aspirants who also qualified for civil services will not be able to score and that will be the true test of intelligence for a person to be working in Environment and Forest department
Nevertheless I agree with you that specific que. about concerned department should be asked in IFS examination, Afterall it is the Env. & Forest you would be working for once u get selected
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yes..by abov veiws
may this yr IFS exam pattern may change!!!!!! lets hope
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only one month for notification. oh boy oh boy oh boy
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heard news that
this yr no optionals for civil service exam?……..
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Yes…This news has been circulating like a tsunami these days…Don’t know how far it is true…
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@veer
ifs ki koi news heard kari to batao bhai
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well its a good way to segregate serious ias and serious ifs aspirants.
keep no optional in ias and 2 science optional in ifs.
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BHAI LOGO….IFOS EXAM K BARE ME KOI HOT NEWS????
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sir can u please tell me where can i get photostat evolution coaching class’s forestry study material?
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u can get it from online by evolution.co.in….check it.
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@saanuj
kindly provide me the answer keys of ias electrical prelims 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007 and 2002 papers as gk publication book does not contain the answer keys for these years. i know i am asking a bit too much but i am helpless! upsc is repeating a lot of questions from ias electrical previous years prelims papers for ies. seems the paper setter has run out of questions and is using the previous years question bank to frame the questions! so, i want to solve and practice ias electrical prelims papers from 1993- 2010 to score decent marks in my forthcoming exams. so, please help me out! i know u won’t disappoint me.
thanking u in anticipation.
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@saanuj
ies conventional (written) papers are a headache! what to do about it?
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Hi,
I am posting here for the 1st time and my query is regarding Geology & forestry as optional for IFoS. Where can I get the material for these 2 subjects?? And in Delhi is it possible to get evolution material for both these subjects from some shop- will be nice if someone can suggest some shops where I can get the photocopied material!!
P.S.- I am not from Delhi but planning to go to Delhi to purchase the material, etc..thanking in anticipation of positive response!!
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Also if someone can give me reviews on the material of Evolution for Geology, Zoology, Agriculture and Forestry?
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u can get forestry notes prepared by evolution classes at 12000/-. i searched for its photocopy ,i didnt find it (some1 said its available in xerox shops around coaching classes). so what i did is, i went to agriculture university PUSA, delhi ( shishir hostel bookstall, u get all forestry books here only) with recommended booklist for forestry and purchased them. i suggest to purchase books- indian forestry by manikandan and prabhu, handbook of forestry by khanna and chaturvedi. these are primarily must books for forestry. and in case if u get photocopy of forestry notes of evolution, please let me know about it at – nvnpatil008@gmail.com
thanx
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Thanks Naveen!! I will let you know in case I happen to find out the photocopied material in any shop in Delhi (but challenging as I am not from Delhi and have no knowledge of Delhi’s geography). But any feedback on the material itself? Is it worth the stuff? or reading from books (ones you mentioned & additional) should suffice?
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evolution classes providing notes may b since last two years. i attended its orientation class, the faculty who teaches forestry has 3years of experience and he was unable clear ifos. by this i think its not mature notes compared to reference books. its better to purchase ref book and update current affairs either from net or class notes. its my opinion…
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WTF! notification?
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till monday……………….hope so
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which strategy to be followed in such unexpected regime. nothing is sure.
optional or no optional
prelims in ifs or not
saari night patience ki height
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The officers working in UPSC must be very lucky..I hope they had n’t faced this kind of situation when they got selected….This is Utter ridiculous…Anticipating so many changes..but informing in last minute!!! Removing Optional & CSAT is not a small change(If happens like last year)….How can some one says…A serious aspirant should be ready for any kind of changes,if the changes that are anticipating are at this huge level!
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notification on 31.05.2014 (from UPSC website)
hope they change indian forest service exam this year.
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No change this year sadly!! 😦
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and that change should remain persistent for at least 10 years
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can u please tell me what is qualifying (cutoff) marks of ifos prelims last year? what is the trend( increasing or decreasing)?
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general ~ 260-270
obc ~ 250-260
sc ~ 250
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if no change in exam, this year it would be
general~320
obc~300
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So no changes or surprises in UPSC Civil services Exam-2014!! Finally UPSC has something to say!!
Click to access press%20note.pdf
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so let us prepare for prelims from this moment, try to score 100%.
mains can be prepared later
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This year there would be return of veterans( those who have exhausted all their 4 attempts). and all these veterans will definitely tick both option ( ias and ifs) if they are eligible..cut off of ifs will be killing( world record in the history of upsc exams)- my view
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@Biology-The extra attempts are only for IAS not for IFS i guess….For IFS there wont be any change from existing criteria.
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-yes the extra attempts are only for civil service exam not for ifos
– 31st may is the D day- CHANGE or NO CHANGE
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there may be some change in format of Indian forest services since in the notice published by UPSC they have mentioned that there will be no change in civil services exams. Lets wait upto 31 may.
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@SARUS CRANE.. they have mentioned that there will be no change in civil service examination( nothing specifically mentioned about indian forest service exam)..
since we foolish ( affected ifos aspirants) had not raise our concerns like dharna or demonstrations. the apex agency is least concerned about ifos exam.
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preliminary news coming on other forums : no change in prelims of ifos.
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prelims is again combined with cse. no change.
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Notification is out finally… Check the emyment news……..any changes?
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once again serious ifs aspirants havin hard luck….sittt
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1. no changes no changes in format.
2. 6 attempts and 32 years. age relaxation for ifos candidates
3. 12-13 times intake , no increase in intake.
4. same prelims
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@biology bhai. question papers r dynamic. so upsc given two more attempts to accommodate to new syllabus. whether two extra attempt provided for cse and ifos are temporary for few years or permanent?
im a General category candidate so ive to think what would b conditions after few years.
whats ur opinion?
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SIR
COULD YOU SUGGEST ME CONCERN BOOKS MY OPTIONAL SUBJECT PAPER BOTANY
AND PRELIMS AND G.S etc.
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Any suggestion on
a] biodiversity section of paper 1 (how much is enough)
b] whether i should buy India year book 2014 ( i have 2013)
Pls reply
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new entry guys!
preparing for ifos with physics and mathematics, good command on maths, concentrating on physics and gs.
warriors with the same optionals, plz contact dhirajarya1@gmail.com
lets start sharing knowledge.
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hello could you please suggest any good coaching for physics in delhi.
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DIAS
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Hello all, I am thinking to enroll myself in Evolution Delhi.Can anybody give feedback about the institute. Is is good for General knowledge Pre and Ifos Gk (mains) ?
Please anybody who have done coaching share your experience
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Civils Results are out! Congrats to all who made it….
Click to access fr_cse2013_eng.pdf
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Hello Sir,
Iam thinking to appear in ifos exam 2014 with botany and agriculture as my optionals. Sir kindly guide with textbooks for both the optionals -botany and agriculture.
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@ saumya…join evolution for botany at delhi…thatz best.
but b4 tht u hv to score 270-280 in prelims…mail me for furthr details.. singhrahul1202@gmail.com
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@saanuj,
Hey How abt your Civils result???
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What’s up colleagues, how is all, and what you desire to say concerning this piece
of writing, in my view its really awesome for me.
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Upsc-uploaded marksheet-csat-prelims-mains-examination-2013 You can check the website for details!!!
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So close yet so far!!
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what was the cutoff ,I scored 203 only as obc in pre last year.
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For OBC Prelims-2013 cut-off is 222
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how do you know about the cutoff…is it provided on upsc site.
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Yes..Its there in UPSC cutoff section..plz check
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u r not meant for ifs.. its not ur calling.. ur answer to y u wanna join ifs is like wat i d hav replied to if i had been asked d same thing for a bank interview..or any job dat m not much interested in.. i really wish dat pple like u who dont hav interest in forestry n nature ll stop applying for d job.. so pple like us who dream of such things hav better chances of getting dem.. i dont mean it as an insult.. i just said dat cuz its d right thing to do
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what is cut off of indian forest service prelims???
upsc has not disclosed upsc prelims cut off
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IFoS(P) cut off
General 267
OBC 249
SC 233
ST 225
PH-2 178
PH-3 160
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out of 85 student, 27 have made it in final list of cse
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So now there are chances of Pre being postponed!!Should not we stand up and ask UPSC to consider separate exam for IFoS candidates?
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@FSAspirant
yes …….u r right ,v should also demand for separate exam for ifs….. what is the use of csat in forest service????
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best of luck all for 24 august
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@ FSAspirant Just wrote a mail to MP from local constituency and even checked with PA of Mr. Sadanda Gowda regarding IFos. If possible you people can try from your end too, as neither the media not parties supported us, these 80 odd posts matter a lot for life-science candidates.
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out of 85 student, 27 have made it in final list of cse’13 and 55 have asked for exemption from foundation course for indian forest service.
i think no one is joining foundation course for indian forest service this year.
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can you please mail me the same format,,, i do try to reach my local MP,,,, @ mgrshankar180@gmail.com
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Hey Ravi…shared you a mail just check if u got it. Nice to know that u r from shimoga man.
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ya thank you vijay……..i think you are from Mangalore right……….?
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No. Im put up in Nelamangala, born in Thirthalli dude
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nothing will happen by writing a letter.
no body cares about ifs exam.
it is now just a b grade exam( back up plan) for very serious ias aspirants with science background(mainly engineers)
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@aspiranto..may b u r right but still Govt has given an opportunity for the attendees of 2011 an attempt in 2015 but why y not for IFOs? as the change for us was done in 2013 with a 3 months before prelims.
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@VIJAY. it doesnot matter how much attempt they grant us. the real problem is the exam pattern which is culminating into very high cut off.
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frnd i need proper guidelines on medical standards and fitness criteria for IFoS exam. if the candidate is suffering from any problem specially with heart, kidney or undergone major surgery during past 2years then is he be recommended for the service by medical board or rejected? plz give proper view. Will disabled candidates be allowed to join service or there is no seat for them?
waiting for the reply…
thanx
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hi naveen first of all use correct acronym for service, it is IFS and not IFoS. Further don’t worry abt what ppl tell on this issue, just go through the medical rules of all india services(IFS specifically) published in the gazette which u can google or if u still don’t find post ur email id here i’ll send it. i did not come across any such complication with any of our batchmates during our medical this yr although they do cardiac examination both clinically and if need by diff tests. And medical is not very harsh u’ll sail through if u dont have major problems. And as per ur query of disabled ppl joining the service: there is nothing that explicitly stops them from joining though they have to clear the walking test. even this yr there were 2 disabled candidates who were selected
Regards,
ANTHONY, IFS
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Hi Anthony,
Kindly mail the topic-wise book-list followed by you for Geology.
Prompt reply will be really helpful!
I too have Forestry and Geology as my optionals.
Thanks and regards,
Sayak
sayak1001@yahoo.com
8971281818
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is there any possibility of reserve list for 2013 exam ??
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@ajay , there is no reserve list for all india services examination and as far as IFS exam is concerned the matter had already been dealt with the ministry and even they gave the same reply: NO.
don’t feel disheartened but prepare well this time u’ll make it.
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Anthony Sir pls reply.
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please guide me how to prepare for CSAT paper 2 too score such a high marks those are require to clear IFs cut offs.
I am from life science background finding it extremely difficult
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hey forest lovers and cut off enhancers. what’s up.
i am getting 225 ( general). any chance. please post your expected score here with category.
both my optional are half prepared
still 4 attempts left
2015
2016
2017( rahul gandhi sir attempt)
2018( rahul gandhi sir attempt)
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https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx1NZJxI_innYU1fekZsdkRLdGc&usp=sharing
Here is the link for Agri. notes by ANGRAU (Acharya N G Ranga Agri. University) Hyderabad. These notes were once available on the website of the university but now they are nowhere to be found. Quite useful for final reading.
Thanks.
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Chandu agri notes are not available, can u plz upload it one again. plz do the needful.
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Hello everyone, it’s my first pay a quick visit at this site, and paragraph is in fact fruitful
for me, keep up posting these types of articles.
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After the introduction of new syllabus in IFS, interest among the aspirants of this service have come down. This can be known from the decreasing number of comments on this post. The new syllabus has completely changed the situation. Why don’t UPSC add all the Examination in this Preliminary Pattern? Why only IFS examination? IES,ESE,CDS and all graduate level examination should be added in this Preliminary pattern. I don’t know what keeps on going with the mind of the UPSC team.
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My daughter is in IIT,Kgp *agr.engg&food engg.and she will be appearing UPSC prelims and specifically for IFS in 2016.She has to attempt both the tests soon after the completion of her graduation and for that she started preparation from now onwards.She chose Agricultural Engineering as one of the options. Will you suggest something regarding second paper as option?
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forestry will be appropriate optional for her.
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Pre Results are Out…Check it out
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Mtself …Not Qualified….Any one who made it? (@Biology?)
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CLEARED IAS
FAILED IN IFOS
KYA BOLU
kahan jakar maru
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Cleared both ifos and CSE but will skip IFoS mains
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Hey, Congrats Biology… Prepare well for mains… I hope that u will love this service as well after getting into it… Pls guide me about how u prepared for the comprehension section of Paper-II… It seems very tough for me… Hope you will reply and All The Best for Mains…
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shreya : if you are preparing especially for ifos then you have to clear mammoth prelims cut off. For this you need to score around 80-90% in CSAT paper which requires accuracy, speed and luck… lots and lots of luck.
Now about reading comprehension section : Read newspaper Hindu editorials to increase speed. if possible join a test series for PAPER 2( CL is good)
One approach which i use to solve reading comprehension quickly is that i first jot down important words from the questions and look for these words in the passage. this trick is useful when you have very little time left
otherwise just give one very quick reading to the passage, dont try to understand each and every line, then go to the questions and find the context in the passage to solve.
practice practice practice.
go to some religious place, lure GOD for luck
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CHUTZPAH ho gaya hai.
ias nikal gaya ifos mein fail ho gaya.
now preparing only for prelims 2015.
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Thanks BIOLOGY for your reply… Yaah, u r right… A lot of practice can make difference… My main aim is IFoS only… I can understand how u r feeling right now… But since u hav cleared IAS cut off this time, I m sure a little extra effort will definitely bring u success in 2015… Let’s prepare ourselves to defeat this mammoth cut off…
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Hey Forest Lovers is dere anyone who took coaching from Evolution. Plz post your mail ID yaar…
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if i didn’t get ifos cut off means can i write ias mains ?
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Thanx chandu bhai for sharing agrinotes . thanx a lot. which cadre have you been alloted???
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any body here appearing ifs mains with agri as optional??
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After the introduction of new syllabus in IFS, interest among the aspirants of this service have come down. This can be known from the decreasing number of comments on this post. The new syllabus has completely changed the situation. Why don’t UPSC add all the Examination in this Preliminary Pattern? Why only IFS examination? IES,ESE,CDS and all graduate level examination should be added in this Preliminary pattern. I don’t know what keeps on going with the mind of the UPSC team.
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hello aspirants is there anybody with zoology or botany optional, who wrote last year? Jst tell me whether the booklet had extra space than GS, and if both were same then how did u manage to draw diagrams.
plz throw some light, waiting for an early reply. Thanks in advance.
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don’t worry about it , there will be space after each question and sub-parts ,and it will be sufficient.
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Mr.Chandu can u plz post the agri notes which u have shared earlier, nw those files are not available. plz do the needful yaar
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Hi Friends…hope u all r doing well
I am sorry for the late reply…completed West India Tour recently…participated in All India Firest games held at Panaji, Goa….had no time to check the inbox
i hv been allotted to Himachal Pradesh cadre…..having a wonderful time in the service! hope to see u all in the service.
the link should work now
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx1NZJxI_innTFl3TjNiUTVDOTA&usp=sharing
do let me know if there is any problem
thanks…all the best
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@P A L ANANTH BABU
My batch mate secured AIR 12 with Agri Engg and Forestry…..here is the link for his tips
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx1NZJxI_innRFNjN3dtZ3NWRnBWaHUwalZrcWx1a2hESldn/view?usp=sharing
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try this link for agri notes
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx1NZJxI_innTFl3TjNiUTVDOTA&usp=sharing
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The folders are empty :((
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sorry..i opened that link ..only to find empty folders !!!
uploading them again…
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https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx1NZJxI_innMmo0S1JPNnNUcTQ&usp=sharing
This should work
sorry for inconvenience caused
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Hello,
Can you share course # 221 notes as well?
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please share how to prepare for CSAT paper 2…. How to clear the mammoth cut off of Indian
forest services
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please upload ifos mains gk and english papers.
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papers already uploaded in mrunal’s site.
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Anyone with Geology optional in this years IFS MAINS exam? Kindly share the paper!!
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please share today’s zoology paper..
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My brother recommended I might like this web site.
He was entirely right. This submit truly made my day. You cann’t consider simply how so much time I had spent for this information!
Thank you!
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please share this year’s zoology paper.I am not able to find it anywhere and this site which is the only reliable recourse for IFS aspirants is too gradually becoming so silent…
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After the introduction of new syllabus in IFS, interest among the aspirants of this service have come down. This can be known from the decreasing number of comments on this post. The new syllabus has completely changed the situation. Why don’t UPSC add all the Examination in this Preliminary Pattern? Why only IFS examination? IES,ESE,CDS and all graduate level examination should be added in this Preliminary pattern. I don’t know what keeps on going with the mind of the UPSC team…
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Can someone please share this years Geology’s paper?
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Can someone please share this years Prelim’s paper? I am puzzled.
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How to score that much cut off marks? Please help.
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Google it.. you can get 2014 IAS prelims paper..
1)Read all relevant chapters from standard books and one newspaper daily.
2)Attempt last 10 years Qs Paper after completing syllabus and as many mock tests as possible.
If your average score is 100 in paper -I and 190 in paper- II, nobody can stop you from qualifying IFoS prelims.
50% score in paper -I is considered very good. Hence, success lies in the fact that how much marks you score in paper-II.
Lots of Practice, 1 year’s sincere hard work, that’s all what you need….:-)
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Right mam. Thanks.
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190 marks out of 200 in paper 2 .. it is really insane… UPSC has truly ruined the essence of IFS examination. Why do not they hire by CAT examination if such a high aptitude is required to be a IFs officer.
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190 marks in paper II is really very high.. But not impossible.. I myself am struggling to achieve that goal.. Cut off for IFoS was 267 in 2013.. I hope this year it was bit less and I presume that cut off will never cross the 270 mark.. To achieve such a huge score, one is bound to be excellent in Paper II (for which the syllabus is finite and predictable).
Surely, the Parliamentarians have ruined the charm of IFoS..
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What is your strategy for Reading comprehensions? From where you are doing practice. For this section there is hardly any specific material available in market those jhalla chaal publications available do not match the level of CSAT and some good books related to CAT,GMAT,GRE are of too high level to be required for CSAT. Both of them are wastage of time,more or less.
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Me too eager to know the strategy to tackle RC.. I m weak in this area.. Currently, I have practice books of Arihant publication and Access Publisher.. I shall be glad to know about the strategy for RC from anyone in this forum including you Vicky.. Thanks in advance..
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@shreya and @vicky what was your score this year
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scored 110 marks in paper 1 but paper 2 ruined me.
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what are your optional subjects @IFOS2015 and @shreya
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@vicky botany and foretsry
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Scored around 80 in Paper I and 110 in paper II… my optionals will be Agriculture and Botany..
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My optionals are Zoology and Forestry. I think we should make combined efforts at least in CSAT paper 2 so that we can get share and learn. what both of you say?
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hello friends,
just wanted you to know that Indian Forest Service is abbreviated as IFS…….don’t abbreviate it as IFoS.
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Can someone tell that what was the probable cutoffs this year in the civil services prelims for qualification in forest service mains exam for all categories?
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http://ifsportal.in/
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Can someone tell that what was the probable cutoffs in the year 2014 in civil services prelims for qualification in forest service mains exam for each categories?
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I have got an interview call for forest services. My optionals are Mechanical Engg. and Forestry. Anyone from Delhi wanting to prepare for the interview?
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@ GAURAV SHARMA could you please share your preliminary probable marks to the group members?
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I think I got in the range 230-245…not sure as there were so many confusions in answers this time. I checked with around 5 answer keys. Different estimates with different answer keys.
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@ GAURAV SHARMA could you please disclose the no. of attempts and breakup marks in each section?
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Section i mean each paper..
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I attempted 80 questions in paper 1 and I think i am getting around 100 marks in that. In paper 2, I attempted all the questions and I think I am getting around 140.
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You have handled it very nicely
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Roll No. : 646048 Rank 38
Name : NAGA SATHISH GIDIJALA
Indian Forest Service (Main) Examination 2014
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 075
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 075
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 068
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 055
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 159
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 086
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 518
Interview Marks 300 207
Final Total 1700 725
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Roll No. : 011614 Rank 59
Name : DEEPAK M
Indian Forest Service (Main) Examination 2014
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 073
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 081
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 062
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 108
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 127
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 073
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 524
Interview Marks 300 162
Final Total 1700 686
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Roll No. : 542025 Rank 28
Name : KANNAN M V G
Indian Forest Service (Main) Examination 2014
Subject Maximum
Marks Marks
Obtained
FORESTRY PAPER I 200 087
FORESTRY PAPER II 200 103
GEOLOGY PAPER I 200 043
GEOLOGY PAPER II 200 091
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 158
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 091
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 573
Interview Marks 300 165
Final Total 1700 738
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http://sathishsofaar.blogspot.in/2015/02/ifos-civil-services-dilemma-dissolved.html
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thanks its great
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its awesome … lovely work u done
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waoo nice …
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Please spare some time to fill this form. This survey is being conducted to find out the extent of ‘environmental activism’ present in Indian population. http://goo.gl/forms/RCgUCYPb4E
(Except Forest Officials)
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The question where you ask “if your family or any member depends on forest sector for livelihood (except forest officials)” there is no option for those respondents whose parents are working in the dept?
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yeah…that question was not meant for forest officials!!
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Phewww…. Finally the main problem of IFoS candidates CSAT paper 2 vanished… Fair play for all…
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@vicky it hasn’t been removed. it has been made qualifying with 33%..that’s it.
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I wrote ” main problem” is vanished not CSAT paper 2.
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But cut off will go high in paper I.. What should be a decent score in paper I according to you guys???
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120
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Roll No. : 002241
Name : ANOOP A SHETTY
Rank= 3 Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum Marks Marks Obtained
AGRICULTURE PAPER I 200 106
AGRICULTURE PAPER II 200 049
BOTANY PAPER I 200 125
BOTANY PAPER II 200 091
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 128
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 135
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 634
Interview Marks 300 205
Final Total 1700 839
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Roll No. : 001732
Name : PRADEEP MISHRA
Rank= 4 Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum Marks Marks Obtained
CHEMISTRY PAPER I 200 101
CHEMISTRY PAPER II 200 102
MATHEMATICS PAPER I 200 115
MATHEMATICS PAPER II 200 078
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 120
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 102
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 618
Interview Marks 300 187
Final Total 1700 805
Roll No. : 017422
Name : PRANAY MISRA
Rank= 38 Indian Forest Service Examination 2012
Subject Maximum Marks Marks Obtained
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER I 200 081
ANIMAL HUSBANDRY & VET. SCIENCE PAPER II 200 074
ZOOLOGY PAPER I 200 111
ZOOLOGY PAPER II 200 066
GENERAL ENGLISH 300 134
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE 300 080
Penalty Marks 0
Written Total 1400 546
Interview Marks 300 195
Final Total 1700 741
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Hi friends. I am a postgraduate in mechanical engineering from one of the reputed IIT and working from 5 years.can anyone please guide me how to start or what to read in forestry optional please. I am also confused regarding my second optional mathematics vs forestry. can any one please
guide me.
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Watch CAPF history and polity questions on mrunal site held last week to get to know new trend of questions being asked in UPSC.
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So what is expected cutoff this year ?
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Not able to fetch marks as much required by forest because of silly mistakes. After thoroughly undergoing the syllabus I don’t know where it went wrong. Time to bid adieu to this Forest Service. But nevertheless it was my first love.
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Hello guys, need some guidance for geology. Can any one suggest book list and any other preparation guidance. And how difficult is paper 2 for an engineering graduate?
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Can someone tell me for IFS Forestry reference books. Is Manikandan and prabhu’s Indian foresty book is sufficient?
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Ramanasri IAS is the Best Mathematics Optional Coaching Institute
http://mathematicsoptional.com/ias-upsc-mathematics-optional-syllabus/
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